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post Apr 12 2011, 07:09
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QUOTE(buktore @ Apr 11 2011, 16:40) *

- Get more WIS
- Get more Aura.
- Get better gear...
- At this point, don't worry about how you allocated stat point too much, it can always be fix later with not much difficulty.
- Melee is fine on its own. But compared to Maging (broken), it still way too underpower and need much more efforts. You get to do more stuff playing Melee, though.
- Most high LV. people are pure mage, so your impressions that "pure mage don't work well" is obviously false.
- Poison is worth getting if you have AP to spare. You only need it to fight bosses.
- At your LV, Heavy only work when the situations allowed it (like cakefest or Item world). Evade is what you should focus on for now. Later on, you can start to use more exotic gear combination if you not switch to mage yet at that point...
- Try not to play Cake too much, it hinder your progress.

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gotcha. thanks. "add something"?
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post Apr 12 2011, 17:21
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QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ Apr 11 2011, 19:10) *

Just want to add: 5/5 AP Sleep & Confuse have a 50% chance of not dispelling on damage (10% @ 1 AP).


I think I was around level 280 when I maxed confuse, and that was only because I was using the
AP's I got from leveling up.
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post Apr 13 2011, 10:22
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Are arena token bonuses more common at higher difficulty levels?
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post Apr 13 2011, 12:01
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Are arena token bonuses more common at higher difficulty levels?
Good question.
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post Apr 13 2011, 13:03
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i was wondering if these are worth keeping and leveling up so here are links to the weps followed by what they will become at lvl 300

Fine Longsword of Balance this is the only 4 turn bleeder i have ever gotten

FINE LONGSWORD OF BALANCE
Level: 64 -> 300
Attack Damage Multiplier: 38.2
Attack Accuracy Bonus: 24.84
Attack Critical Bonus: 8.09
Burden: 26.33
Interference: 18.19
STR: 18.75
DEX: 5.64
Proc Damage: 493

Fine Scythe of Balance <- most of my drops have low % 1 turn procs, so i was really happy when i got this as my first scythe

FINE SCYTHE OF BALANCE
Level: 61 -> 300
Attack Damage Multiplier: 61.59
Attack Accuracy Bonus: 15.63
Attack Critical Bonus: 9.17
Burden: 27.72
Interference: 15.39
STR: 19.71
DEX: 0.94
Proc Damage: 573

Fine Silk Cap of the Fleet

FINE SILK CAP OF THE FLEET
Level: 50 -> 300
Attack Accuracy Bonus: 0.92
Physical Absorption: 6.03
Physical Mitigation: 1.46
Magical Absorption: 7.45
Magical Mitigation: 1.59
Evade Chance: 7.44
Resist Chance: 0.89
Burden: 4.15
DEX: 6.56
AGI: 0.94

i have no basis for comparison so i have no idea how good or bad these really are, they are merely the best of my drops. if someone has a "good" example of the same item at level 300 could you link to it so i know what to look for in stats.
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post Apr 13 2011, 13:15
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QUOTE(PSPhreak @ Apr 13 2011, 18:03) *

i was wondering if these are worth keeping and leveling up


They don't.
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post Apr 13 2011, 16:14
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QUOTE(PSPhreak @ Apr 13 2011, 21:03) *

i have no basis for comparison so i have no idea how good or bad these really are, they are merely the best of my drops. if someone has a "good" example of the same item at level 300 could you link to it so i know what to look for in stats.


For most of the weapons, you can check this page for max/min values found... the numbers are a little out of date as some of the weapon stats have been tweaked in recent HV updates, but it's a good place to start.
Equipment Numbers

For Staffs and maging equipment (plus a few other types), check this thread - Lists both base and lvl 300 stats for comparison

And in regards to your equipment, not really worth upgrading too much as you will be certain to find better equips along the way

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post Apr 13 2011, 23:33
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Is there any reason at all to do grindfests rather than simply keeping around one piece of equipment and going into the item world over and over?

I know that the # of times you can go into an item world is limited but as of now I have not yet hit that limit (I run out of potions).

Is grindfest there just for when you hit your cap on the # of times you can go into item worlds, or does it have some benefits I'm not seeing?


Also, does haste make healing effects heal you more quickly, and can't that work against me if I am depending on, say... the effect of a healing potion, to keep me at full health as I get hit?

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post Apr 13 2011, 23:47
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- Griendfest is for some cash, doing something silly, and for the lulz.

- Think of Haste as Bullet time in Max Payne; it make mobs slower... so your potion / regen will work at the same rate but you take less hit per turn since mobs move slower. If taking less hits mean you waste potions, then use it at lower HP.
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post Apr 14 2011, 06:06
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Hi, I wanted to ask for some advice.

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I use this weapon: Fair Rapier of Balance
Now, my problem is that I need way too much potions. I can't even use Greater Healing Potions anymore, since they don't heal fast enough. I'm carrying 3 Superior Healing and 2 Superior Mana Potions with me and especially during the higher Arena Battles I have to use them all. I'm kinda playing a tank, and I have a Innate Arcana Slot where I used to have Shield but switched to Haste now. This is my battle log from an easier challenge:

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Accuracy: 13/16 (81.25%), Crits: 2/13 (15.38%), Offhand: 0/13 (0.00%), Domino: 0/13 (0.00%), OverStrikes: 1/13 (7.69%), Coalesce: 0/0 (0%), Interference: 0/0 (0%), Resists: 0/0 (0%), Spell Crits: 0/0 (0%), Avg hit dmg: 173.00|Avg crit dmg: 200.50|Avg dmg: 177.23
|Hits taken: 19/34 (55.88%), Missed: 3/34 (8.82%), Evaded: 1/34 (2.94%), Blocked: 6/34 (17.65%), Parried: 2/34 (5.88%), Resisted: 1/2 (50.00%), Crits taken: 3/19 (15.79%), Total taken: 422, Avg taken: 22.21

18    10    You gain 135 Credits!
18    9    You gain 72.75 EXP!
18    8    Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
18    7    Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Healing]
18    6    Arena Clear Bonus! [Fair Leather Gauntlets of Negation]
18    5    Fire Fox dropped [Crystal of Flames]
18    4    Mind Raper dropped [Lesser Health Potion]
18    3    You are Victorious!
18    2    Mind Raper has been defeated.
18    1    You crit Mind Raper for 192 piercing damage.
17    3    Mind Raper hits you for 14 crushing damage.
17    2    You gain the effect Overwhelming Strikes.
17    1    You hit Mind Raper for 127 piercing damage.
16    3    You block the attack from Mind Raper.
16    2    Mind Raper casts Toddlerguro
16    1    You hit Mind Raper for 156 piercing damage.
15    2    Mind Raper hits you for 14 crushing damage.
15    1    Mind Raper evades your attack.
14    4    You counter Mind Raper for 134 points of piercing damage.
14    3    You parry the attack from Mind Raper.
14    2    You hit Mind Raper for 130 piercing damage.
14    1    You gain 0.02 points of one-handed weapon proficiency.
13    2    Mind Raper hits you for 10 crushing damage.
13    1    You hit Mind Raper for 141 piercing damage.
12    2    You block the attack from Mind Raper.
12    1    Mind Raper evades your attack.
11    3    Mind Raper hits you for 11 crushing damage.
11    2    You are healed for 160 Health Points.
11    1    You cast Cure.
10    2    Mind Raper hits you for 9 crushing damage.
10    1    Mind Raper evades your attack.
9    3    Mind Raper hits you for 13 crushing damage.
9    2    Rabid Hamster has been defeated.
9    1    You hit Rabid Hamster for 150 piercing damage.
8    3    You block the attack from Rabid Hamster.
8    2    Mind Raper misses the attack against you.
8    1    You hit Rabid Hamster for 170 piercing damage.
7    5    You counter Rabid Hamster for 153 points of piercing damage.
7    4    You parry the attack from Rabid Hamster.
7    3    Mind Raper crits you for 23 crushing damage.
7    2    Elton has been defeated.
7    1    You hit Elton for 152 piercing damage.
6    6    You evade the attack from Elton.
6    5    Rabid Bite hits you for 37 dark damage.
6    4    Rabid Hamster uses Rabid Bite
6    3    You resist the attack from Mind Raper.
6    2    Mind Raper casts Toddlerguro
6    1    You hit Elton for 113 piercing damage.
5    5    You block the attack from Elton.
5    4    You block the attack from Rabid Hamster.
5    3    Mind Raper hits you for 14 crushing damage.
5    2    You are healed for 153 Health Points.
5    1    You cast Cure.
4    4    Elton hits you for 32 piercing damage.
4    3    Rabid Hamster hits you for 36 piercing damage.
4    2    Mind Raper hits you for 12 crushing damage.
4    1    You hit Elton for 129 piercing damage.
3    5    Elton crits you for 58 piercing damage.
3    4    You block the attack from Rabid Hamster.
3    3    You gain 0.02 points of shield proficiency.
3    2    Mind Raper misses the attack against you.
3    1    You hit Elton for 104 piercing damage.
2    5    Elton hits you for 32 piercing damage.
2    4    Rabid Hamster hits you for 26 piercing damage.
2    3    Mind Raper hits you for 5 crushing damage.
2    2    Fire Fox has been defeated.
2    1    You hit Fire Fox for 244 piercing damage.
1    6    Elton hits you for 25 piercing damage.
1    5    Rabid Hamster misses the attack against you.
1    4    Fire Fox hits you for 29 slashing damage.
1    3    Mind Raper crits you for 22 crushing damage.
1    2    Fire Fox gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
1    1    You crit Fire Fox for 209 piercing damage.
0    5    Spawned Monster D: MID=6 (Fire Fox) LV=36 HP=407 MP=1 SP=8 NA=195 Type=hostile
0    4    Spawned Monster C: MID=3483 (Elton) LV=38 HP=479 MP=36 SP=10 NA=196 Type=hostile
0    3    Spawned Monster B: MID=8 (Rabid Hamster) LV=36 HP=391 MP=46 SP=0 NA=195 Type=hostile
0    2    Spawned Monster A: MID=13 (Mind Raper) LV=36 HP=848 MP=21 SP=4 NA=193 Type=hostile
0    1    Initializing arena challenge #6 (Round 4 / 4) ...
0    0    Battle Start!


Now, I'm sure there are lots of things to improve, even though I've been around for a while, I've only recently started playing HV and I hope you can help me.
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post Apr 14 2011, 09:17
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QUOTE(Mephi-Dross @ Apr 13 2011, 21:06) *

Hi, I wanted to ask for some advice.

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I use this weapon: Fair Rapier of Balance
Now, my problem is that I need way too much potions. I can't even use Greater Healing Potions anymore, since they don't heal fast enough. I'm carrying 3 Superior Healing and 2 Superior Mana Potions with me and especially during the higher Arena Battles I have to use them all. I'm kinda playing a tank, and I have a Innate Arcana Slot where I used to have Shield but switched to Haste now. This is my battle log from an easier challenge:

Now, I'm sure there are lots of things to improve, even though I've been around for a while, I've only recently started playing HV and I hope you can help me.


Heavy armor is good for Item World, but for Arenas I found that it's better to combine a high block shield (get a better one, 25%+ block at least) with high evade Fleet Silk to increase your speed by dropping burden and to minimize the amount of times enemies successfully connect with you. Also be sure to always have Haste and Shield up, and use Weaken against uncommon enemies and enemies that you know are hard-hitters (Fire Fox, Tentacle Monster, giants, etc).

I'd also get a rapier with a higher chance to Proc/crit because PA is where most of your damage is going to come from with rapiers.

Also work on your Supportive and Deprecating proficiencies. When you get to the last enemy of an Arena, empty out your Magic Points on Weaken and Shield; also always run a Magic Training Montage when you step away from HV for 8 or more hours.

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post Apr 14 2011, 10:02
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Well, having Haste & Shield up should be no problem because of the Innate Arcana.^^ One thing I've noticed though, I normally have more problems with the custom monsters, they hit way too hard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Just the last day I had a 160 crit from a custom monster -.- Makes me wonder why I'm still using Cure xD

€dit: Evade Silk is Silk armor with a high evade stat, am I right? Or is it a special Item class?

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post Apr 15 2011, 00:25
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Got lots of staves drops lately, which works best with my build as of now, and which might be the best to level up in item world for later? (inb4 superior is the best and it was obvious)

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=908b4f6d9e

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=5b4701d36e

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=caa7769ba9

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=515755372f


Most recent stats and such, still close to this other than gaining some levels and ap https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...34&st=5920#
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post Apr 15 2011, 01:16
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(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Hey first time posting and i was wondering(stupid question), is the shield spell worth it and i was wondering if someone could give me a list of "most have spells" and a "good spells for this situation" list thanks...
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post Apr 15 2011, 01:52
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QUOTE(kawaiiLOLI @ Apr 14 2011, 15:25) *

Got lots of staves drops lately, which works best with my build as of now, and which might be the best to level up in item world for later? (inb4 superior is the best and it was obvious)

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=908b4f6d9e

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=5b4701d36e

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=caa7769ba9

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=515755372f
Most recent stats and such, still close to this other than gaining some levels and ap https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...34&st=5920#

I'd recommend the redwood owl staff (the third link). It's got an unusually good ether theft proc on it. I found that a good 2-turn ET really made a difference when I was around your level. It makes it dramatically easier to proc channeling, and you get more mana back.

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Hey 250+ players: what's the deal with MagNet? Is it like Slow, but better? Does it stack with Slow?

Also, how effective is Lifesteam? Does it tick for more or less than Regen II, in terms of healing? What about damage over time compared to Poison?

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post Apr 15 2011, 10:02
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QUOTE(Mephi-Dross @ Apr 14 2011, 01:02) *

€dit: Evade Silk is Silk armor with a high evade stat, am I right? Or is it a special Item class?


Yes you're right. I was talking about Silk armor with the Fleet suffix, which boosts evade--armor like "Average Silk Cap of the Fleet". I always aim for something with 4.00% evade or higher.

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I don't know where else to ask, but can someone please tell me if the following pieces of equipment are any good and worth leveling and using?

Also, I'm working toward going Electric mage, so is it better to wear Elementalist gear, or when available, Mjolnir gear?

Fair Gossamer Shoes of the Elementalist
Average Gossamer Gloves of the Elementalist
Fair Ebony Staff of Mjolnir
Fair Phase Pants of Mjolnir (My first Phase drop ever.)

I think I'm still too low a level to be getting good drops, regardless of the type and suffix. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Apr 15 2011, 11:54
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@ Mephi-Dross

If "play a mage" isn't sound like a good advice to you... read on.

Use Fleet silks in Arena. Cast Weaken on Miniboss also helps. The effects of Haste is still probably too low to worth your mana at this point.

And try to get better gear... I mean, really, you even have IA, which I don't... so sells a few Hath you have and buy something decent. A Shield 'of barrier' and Heavy 'of protection' is usually what you should get if you want to use these kind of gears.

Hmm... Maybe I'll update my yard sale thread later... to help low LV people get something usable. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

@ n125

The pants is not bad. Probably worth LVling; though I'm not really know for sure...
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post Apr 15 2011, 12:21
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Thanks for the answers will try that, just have to wait till I have some Hath again... I spent all for some Hath Perks to make my browsing the galleries a bit more fun^^
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post Apr 15 2011, 16:01
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I'm now Lv27
str 32
dex&agi 15
end 28
int 23
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Could you give some advice how to fight using mage style effectively? So i could change my style to mage. (my Elec always does low dmg and lowers MP too quick)
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QUOTE(MetalNoa @ Apr 15 2011, 07:01) *

I'm now Lv27
str 32
dex&agi 15
end 28
int 23
wis 22

Could you give some advice how to fight using mage style effectively? So i could change my style to mage. (my Elec always does low dmg and lowers MP too quick)

First, your INT is really far too low to consider going mage just yet. If you really want to try doing mage this early (which I'd suggest against, tbh. You don't have enough access to magic at that level, imo), you should re-balance your stats to favor INT and WIS over STR and DEX. And I'd suggest keeping your AGI and END even with your level.

Also, before you think about going Mage, get some "of the Elementalist" Gossamer gear. Unless you have a strong bonus to your elemental proficiency, being a Mage is just an exercise in frustration.
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