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post Nov 25 2014, 23:50
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QUOTE(lhz @ Nov 25 2014, 22:35) *

Hello, I have a little question.

I'm a mage and short on Major Ability Slot, and I can't find what I want on EHWiki, I wondered if the skill "Staff Damage" was of some use or not, since there's also "Staff Spell Damage" which seems to increase the damages for... spells, what does Staff Damage do?

Does it increases the damages when I attack without skills (Arcane Blow)? Should I discard it to make place for elemental skills?

Thank you.

i'm a melee so i may be somehow wrong, but afaik staff damage merely increases the damage when you use the staff as a melee weapon to beat mobs on their heads. it should not be needed so much for mages, or at least there's something more important than that.
also, i remember many people said that raising staff prof is quite hard, so unless you have a quite high one i think you can discard those ones as a whole for now...

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post Nov 26 2014, 00:05
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Thank you, I'll do as you said.
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post Nov 26 2014, 02:23
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A quick question ppl. If there is/was an in-depth discussion on monsters (created ones) please point me to it or answer for these Qs.

1) What monster types kill the most and what lvls would i start to see this?
2) How much does tokenizer increase the chances of token drop?
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post Nov 26 2014, 03:39
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Nov 26 2014, 04:15) *

That's insane! Unforged BLK = 38.93, which is equal to P-0.13 if it was a force shield.

QUOTE(chjj30 @ Nov 26 2014, 04:17) *

Added both shields to the original list, thank you very much for the info. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 26 2014, 03:48
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Nov 26 2014, 05:17) *

Leider, both banned.

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post Nov 26 2014, 04:01
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QUOTE(Cinnac @ Nov 26 2014, 09:23) *

A quick question ppl. If there is/was an in-depth discussion on monsters (created ones) please point me to it or answer for these Qs.

The Official My Little Ponyverse Chat, For Ponies 'n Friends
Try not to hurt yourself in there, Shy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
QUOTE(Cinnac @ Nov 26 2014, 09:23) *

2) How much does tokenizer increase the chances of token drop?

Token roll is 0.2%, so: 0.4%, 0.6%, 0.8% respectively
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post Nov 26 2014, 04:09
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Nov 25 2014, 22:01) *

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Try not to hurt yourself in there, Shy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Token roll is 0.2%, so: 0.4%, 0.6%, 0.8% respectively


This happened just the other day....how did I miss this...

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post Nov 26 2014, 05:18
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Is there any kind of penalty for reseting stats? I used to be a mage then changed, not sure if lost anything like total stats, does proeficiency increases indefinitely?
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post Nov 26 2014, 06:06
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Hey guys! I just started being a fire mage. Any awesome mage players can teach me how to use magic spells? I never been a mage before since I have been 1H + Shield on PFUDOR for a long time.
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post Nov 26 2014, 06:40
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 12:06) *

Hey guys! I just started being a fire mage. Any awesome mage players can teach me how to use magic spells? I never been a mage before since I have been 1H + Shield on PFUDOR for a long time.

Most of the high level mage do not visit this page.

Let me share my experience when grinding elemental prof (with cold/elec).

First, I make the prof factor > 1.6 with 2 piece of cotton. (you do not want a single monster left with nearly full hp when everything are gone)
Then, use SpellSpam to auto use gems and rotate spell.
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post Nov 26 2014, 07:40
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 26 2014, 04:57) *

Well, imagine you can hit 3 targets at the same time (Niten style). If you target the monster at the top, you will hit the top three monsters. If you target the one at the bottom, you will only hit the bottom two. Dead monsters don't change anything (the attack won't skip them to hit the next monster).


Thank you for your explanation!
Now I got it. If you can hit 3 monsters at a time, the target you aim at will always be the middle one of the three except that you hit the top-most one. If you can hit 4 monsters, the target you aim at will be the 3rd one of the four except the top-most and the second.
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post Nov 26 2014, 07:49
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QUOTE(Krabhus @ Nov 26 2014, 12:18) *

Is there any kind of penalty for reseting stats? I used to be a mage then changed, not sure if lost anything like total stats, does proeficiency increases indefinitely?

No penalty, but you can only decrease 10 stats per day, so it's slow to switch mage/melee when your Lv is high. Profs gain caps at your Lv, and Lv caps at LV500, so I guess you can gain up to 500 profs max when grinding.
QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 13:06) *

Hey guys! I just started being a fire mage. Any awesome mage players can teach me how to use magic spells? I never been a mage before since I have been 1H + Shield on PFUDOR for a long time.

Lol, so you're aiming to be a fire breathing pony er, fire breathing dragon like kumosu? (aiming)
Well, we have mid level mages like Scremaz (wind) and tetron (elect), but they'll probably recommend you to Lv up to 310 for 0-cooldown Imperil and many things else.
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post Nov 26 2014, 08:32
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Nov 26 2014, 13:49) *

Lol, so you're aiming to be a fire breathing pony er, fire breathing dragon like kumosu? (aiming)
Well, we have mid level mages like Scremaz (wind) and tetron (elect), but they'll probably recommend you to Lv up to 310 for 0-cooldown Imperil and many things else.


I would do that, but then I don't have my calculations for proficiencies. I thought 50 proficiency is enough for tier 2 elemental. I was wrong. I really need to know what proficiency should it be to get it. Or does it not apply to it? Cause I am talking about using cloth armor here. If that proficiency doesn't work, then darn. I got a long way to go. BTW, which is better? Elementalist or Surtr? I am trying to replace my shoes with Elementalist but it would get rid of the Fire dmg bonus, will that be better or worse?


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post Nov 26 2014, 09:07
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Question: Is there any sort of way to know whether your proficiency is good enough for your level? Like some generally accepted minimum proficiency X by Y level? Or a formula that gives you an idea of what your proficiency should be?

...not that I think my proficiency isn't high enough; I'm just curious, is all.
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post Nov 26 2014, 09:24
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usually its ~0.5-0.7 of lvl. But at my level i have a bit more, because exp gain is quite slow. So atm i have:

232 1h
131 2h
2 staff
7 cloth armor
137 light
232 heavy
12 deprecating
202 supportive

So u can see i played 2h, switched and already its almost 95% of my lvl.
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post Nov 26 2014, 09:30
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 26 2014, 01:24) *

usually its ~0.5-0.7 of lvl. But at my level i have a bit more, because exp gain is quite slow. So atm i have:

232 1h
131 2h
2 staff
7 cloth armor
137 light
232 heavy
12 deprecating
202 supportive

So u can see i played 2h, switched and already its almost 95% of my lvl.


Whoa, if proficiency is supposed to be 0.5-0.7 times your level then my proficiencies are pretty low. My highest effective proficiency right now is 15 for light armor, and my level at the moment is 61.
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post Nov 26 2014, 10:13
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 15:32) *

I would do that, but then I don't have my calculations for proficiencies. I thought 50 proficiency is enough for tier 2 elemental. I was wrong. I really need to know what proficiency should it be to get it. Or does it not apply to it? Cause I am talking about using cloth armor here. If that proficiency doesn't work , then darn. I got a long way to go.

Yeah..., you got a long way to go. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) You need base profs to unlock spells

QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 15:32) *

BTW, which is better? Elementalist or Surtr? I am trying to replace my shoes with Elementalist but it would get rid of the Fire dmg bonus, will that be better or worse?

High level mages found out that having 1 cloth mix in with other phase suits gave much better result against strong mobs due to bonus counter-resist, but at your level you should keep full phase Surtr when going for the kills.

Alright, guess I'll give some advice about grinding proficiency:
1. For equip profs, go and fight the Trio and Tree in arena. Because Yggdra can heal, you can go on indefinitely without any ponies to disrupt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). Set up Spellspam and a good night sleep recommended. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Oh, do train your Staff this way for Staff prof, mage need it.
2. For Supportive, having at least 1 IA is the easiest way, otherwise spam cure.
3. For Deprecating, simply go Normal fest, leave one mob alive and spam Weaken, Slow until out of mana. Note that you don't have to wait for full cycle Depr spells, just mix Defend in the missing part of combo and you're set.
4. Now, Elemental, Divine and Forbidden are not easy to train. I recommend wear 1H battlecasters + cloth or Shade with high evade/resist, then go Hellfest to spam spells while staying alive as long as possible, having IAs would be helpful here.
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post Nov 26 2014, 10:15
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At low levels proficiencies tend to lag behind because of how quickly you can level up. Once things slow down, proficiencies will catch up pretty quickly, in particular the proficiencies that you frequently use, like your weapon and armor proficiencies. You may have to grind Deprecating and Supportive proficiencies, since those aren't used as often.
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post Nov 26 2014, 10:19
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QUOTE(Krabhus @ Nov 26 2014, 04:18) *

Is there any kind of penalty for reseting stats? I used to be a mage then changed, not sure if lost anything like total stats, does proeficiency increases indefinitely?

No penalty. Prof is capped by your current level.

QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 05:06) *

Hey guys! I just started being a fire mage. Any awesome mage players can teach me how to use magic spells? I never been a mage before since I have been 1H + Shield on PFUDOR for a long time.

Maybe make the switch at lvl 310 for the 0-cooldown Imperil?

QUOTE(connecting @ Nov 26 2014, 08:30) *

Whoa, if proficiency is supposed to be 0.5-0.7 times your level then my proficiencies are pretty low. My highest effective proficiency right now is 15 for light armor, and my level at the moment is 61.

It's normal, you will level up pretty fast compared to your prof at the beginning. As leveling up needs greater and greater amounts of exp, your leveling up rate will slow down and your prof will catch up eventually.

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post Nov 26 2014, 11:10
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Nov 26 2014, 06:49) *

Well, we have mid level mages like Scremaz (wind) and tetron (elect), but they'll probably recommend you to Lv up to 310 for 0-cooldown Imperil and many things else.

erm... i never said to be a mage, i only said i have a backup mage set ready for when i need to grind magic prof (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
though actually it isn't even a complete freyr (i only aimed to put in the pieces with the highest WIS out of my inventory, too bad i only own one phase of the owl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ) and i guess i'll keep melee for a long while and will leave this game way before start seriously to mage

QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 07:32) *

I thought 50 proficiency is enough for tier 2 elemental. I was wrong. I really need to know what proficiency should it be to get it. Or does it not apply to it? Cause I am talking about using cloth armor here. If that proficiency doesn't work, then darn. I got a long way to go. BTW, which is better? Elementalist or Surtr? I am trying to replace my shoes with Elementalist but it would get rid of the Fire dmg bonus, will that be better or worse?

50 base prof is needed, just tested a week ago: this means that your prof without elementalist pieces has to be 50. as for shoes, well, since MDB/EDB will scale more i guess at higher levels you may replace them (especially if they have a low damage) with an elementalist piece with quite high prof, but for now keep surtr ones. as for staff (even if you didn't ask for (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) consider that a destruction one may come quite handy too. and also, as someone other before me said, waiting until 0-cooldown imperil is the best choice

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3. For Deprecating, simply go Normal fest, leave one mob alive and spam Weaken, Slow until out of mana. Note that you don't have to wait for full cycle Depr spells, just mix Defend in the missing part of combo and you're set.
4. Now, Elemental, Divine and Forbidden are not easy to train. I recommend wear 1H battlecasters + cloth or Shade with high evade/resist, then go Hellfest to spam spells while staying alive as long as possible, having IAs would be helpful here.

3. 0-cooldown weaken is all what you need since it's still the cheapest deprecating spell you own. if you use hoverplay i suggest you to disable haste, or it will eat MP faster than what your potions can restore
4. i used normal GF, high-WIS cloth and old battlecaster weapons for bonus parry/WIS: with 10 greater MP i was able to raise something like 4 dark points for every GF when close to 200 cap
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