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post Nov 21 2014, 21:15
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It more like medal trophy. Actually i didnt even get m-grade, so gonna keep it as collection. And 60% of my current using equip is still superior. Maybe i should look for something better? At least e-grade? Also i thinking a bit about iw main weapon. Is it worth it?
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post Nov 21 2014, 21:19
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 21 2014, 20:15) *

It more like medal trophy. Actually i didnt even get m-grade, so gonna keep it as collection. And 60% of my current using equip is still superior. Maybe i should look for something better? At least e-grade? Also i thinking a bit about iw main weapon. Is it worth it?

Equip it if you keep it, max stats with +25% bonus is awesome. And yeah, start by searching for Ex+ Shade or Power with all possible PABs. Buy an Ex+ Force Shield with max block, block is really important with 1H.

Don't IW yet, it will be easier at lvl 300+. Also, it really depends on how good your weapon is, to boot.

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post Nov 21 2014, 21:36
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I bought this shield few days ago.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9123561a3b

Not the best, but 31.86 basic block chance is quite good, a bit defense and quite high stats. Cost only 12k.
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post Nov 21 2014, 21:56
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 21 2014, 20:36) *

I bought this shield few days ago.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9123561a3b

Not the best, but 31.86 basic block chance is quite good, a bit defense and quite high stats. Cost only 12k.

Well, it should be okay for now.
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post Nov 21 2014, 22:07
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 21 2014, 21:37) *

is it true for the mainhand of niten as well?

No idea. I didn't play much with Niten. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(something @ Nov 21 2014, 22:31) *

for niten main i'd say it's closer to:

OP > butcher = fatality > SS

for offhand switch butcher for SS

Interesting. But why is SS in the last? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Nov 21 2014, 22:21
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Butcher is more beneficial with weapons which have high damage, obviously 2h and axe. PA is still evil though.
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post Nov 21 2014, 22:22
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post Nov 21 2014, 22:24
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 21 2014, 21:07) *

Interesting. But why is SS in the last? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Maybe because attack speed is a defensive stat?
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post Nov 22 2014, 00:48
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 21 2014, 22:17) *


You play 1H? Aren't you a Light Armor user? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)



well yeah i play 1h-shade, just convert from DW around 2 weeks, dont really want to change to heavy and it's rather comfortable too so just decide to change the weapon and want to IW it
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post Nov 22 2014, 01:48
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Just wondering, can someone tell me how much credits will it cost me if i give holy_demon my Magnificent Hallowed Katana of Slaughter to IW it to EACH level, eg: how much credits for lv2 & lv3, lv4 and so on, up to lv10? I'm totally lost on how to calculate the price... (Does anyone here sell low & mid grade metals? I need it and no one sells it to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) )

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post Nov 22 2014, 01:49
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 21 2014, 15:07) *

Interesting. But why is SS in the last? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)



QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 21 2014, 15:24) *

because attack speed is a defensive stat


^ this. it's better spent on offhand
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post Nov 22 2014, 02:38
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QUOTE(Danchan32A @ Nov 22 2014, 00:48) *

Just wondering, can someone tell me how much credits will it cost me if i give holy_demon my Magnificent Hallowed Katana of Slaughter to IW it to EACH level, eg: how much credits for lv2 & lv3, lv4 and so on, up to lv10? I'm totally lost on how to calculate the price... (Does anyone here sell low & mid grade metals? I need it and no one sells it to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) )

Just calculate it yourself using the formulas provided. Use the second formula to calculate Number_of_run, then use the first formula for the total cost. To know Round_per_run, you just need to enter the item world of the equipment, look at the number of rounds, and flee.

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jan 23 2014, 08:05) *

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Priced at 20c/PxP. My speed is 4-6h from lv0-10 depending on the equipment quality, so the item can be delivered in the same day or the next day

Total cost formula: 25*15.6*Round_per_run*Number_of_run, rounded down to the nearest thousand

Estimated number of run to IW an item level 0: 1000*((1+PxP/1000)^Goal_level-1)/(15.6*Round_per_run), rounded up.


I'm not sure you wanna do that though. It's a huge sum of credits, an ethereal mace of slaughter may be better for you (at high difficulty anyway), and you will probably end up switching to 1H around lvl 200. Maybe you can use it at low difficulty to clear daily arenas fast though.

I recommend you Hito's shop for mats.

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post Nov 22 2014, 02:40
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QUOTE(Danchan32A @ Nov 22 2014, 00:48) *

Just wondering, can someone tell me how much credits will it cost me if i give holy_demon my Magnificent Hallowed Katana of Slaughter to IW it to EACH level, eg: how much credits for lv2 & lv3, lv4 and so on, up to lv10? I'm totally lost on how to calculate the price... (Does anyone here sell low & mid grade metals? I need it and no one sells it to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) )

base_PXP of your gear is 343, thus the number of IW rounds per run is 68 (just checked with an equip of mine which has PXP = 342).

the total number of runs needed to full IW your katana is (consider goal=10 to fully update; for every other level, you can do the math by yourself):
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1000*((1+PxP/1000)^Goal_level-1)/(15.6*Round_per_run) = 19


since price of IW service is 25C/PXP the total amount you have to provide is:
CODE
25*15.6*Round_per_run*Number_of_run = 452k


thinking that you have not special requests (ie butcher 5, fatality 4+ overpower 5...), in which cases price will considerably raise. up to you whether to spend them or not, but i'd suggest you not to do it.

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post Nov 22 2014, 03:08
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QUOTE(Danchan32A @ Nov 22 2014, 07:48) *

Does anyone here sell low & mid grade metals? I need it and no one sells it to me

Visit the WTS subforum, or the WTB subforum if you have patience.
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post Nov 22 2014, 03:58
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 20 2014, 18:42) *

I use Flame spike shield since I'm using 1H. Light armor users should use Frost spike shield. Holy/Dark mages should use Wind spike shield (?), and elemental mages the spike shield lowering the resistance to their element (see here).

I'm not so sure about Flame Spike being the best choice for 1H now. Since 1H has a great damage avoidance with block and parry, and since stun may prevent monsters from attacking while the proc goes away, it may be better to use Frost spike shield, which is still useful whether the attack is negated or not and whether the monster is stunned or not.

To be fair, I was using Frost spike shield the whole time and suddenly thought that Flame might be better since you get more counters compared to the other procs. And then I remembered why I picked Frost in the first place. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Nov 22 2014, 04:57
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Can anyone give me the rundown of what each of these spike shields do? Cause I see them being mentioned having additional effects besides those listed on the abilities wiki page.
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post Nov 22 2014, 04:58
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http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Spike_Shields
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post Nov 22 2014, 05:11
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Nov 21 2014, 20:58) *

Ah, I see now. So in addition to helping protect you from a single element, (which I thought was all the shield did) it will also proc that element's effect if you parry or block an attack. Now it makes sense.

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post Nov 22 2014, 08:16
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Hello experts, so somehow i got a precursor artifact dropped for me and i am wondering what should i do with it. Seeing the chance of getting something nice from the shrine is really low (from wiki), should i just sell it? I see someone post a WTB for 13k, is it a good price? Thanks!
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post Nov 22 2014, 09:17
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Nov 22 2014, 01:51) *

Butcher is more beneficial with weapons which have high damage, obviously 2h and axe. PA is still evil though.

So you want a nerf-patch? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(kuro-chan @ Nov 22 2014, 04:18) *

well yeah i play 1h-shade, just convert from DW around 2 weeks, dont really want to change to heavy and it's rather comfortable too so just decide to change the weapon and want to IW it

Oh I see. 1H-Shade IS the safest style as of now. But even 1H-Power Warding/Protection is faster than it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(something @ Nov 22 2014, 05:19) *

^ this. it's better spent on offhand

So for Niten, mainhand is for pure firepower, and offhand is for buffing mainhand. Nice strategy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Is this the same for DW too?

QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 22 2014, 07:28) *

I'm not so sure about Flame Spike being the best choice for 1H now. Since 1H has a great damage avoidance with block and parry, and since stun may prevent monsters from attacking while the proc goes away, it may be better to use Frost spike shield, which is still useful whether the attack is negated or not and whether the monster is stunned or not.

To be fair, I was using Frost spike shield the whole time and suddenly thought that Flame might be better since you get more counters compared to the other procs. And then I remembered why I picked Frost in the first place. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Is the Attack Speed (From Frost Spike Shield) any good for 1H? I'm not so sure. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
On the other hand, in PFUDOR, 10% damage reduction (From Flame Spike Shield) works very well. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

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