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post Nov 18 2014, 10:16
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QUOTE(SunderSoul @ Nov 17 2014, 22:04) *

Hi there! I have couple of questions :>
1) Is it worthy to leveling my gear like superior-exquisite type in item world?
2) Now I'm DW+Shade and spamming IW-grindfest+random encounters on Battletoads(IW rapes me :<). Am I doing it right? Or there is better way and I should change gear/stats.
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3) When I should start to care about better gear+heavy upgrades? Now or 200>?

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1) If you don't sink any money into it, then you can if you want. At your level and the equipment quality range you're dealing with, it might not be worth the effort because you'll probably go through a lot of equipment before settling on something for the long term.

2) I'd do all of the arenas on the highest manageable difficulty before moving on to the other battle modes.

Stats seem okay. DW is viable, but the most popular and effective melee style right now is One-handed: Slaughter rapier, force shield, and heavy armor.

3) Unless you're a heavy site contributor, you won't be able to afford gear that's worth upgrading for many, many levels; not to mention the materials required to do upgrades. 350-400+.

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post Nov 18 2014, 10:40
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QUOTE(n125 @ Nov 18 2014, 10:16) *

1) If you don't sink any money into it, then you can if you want. At your level and the equipment quality range you're dealing with, it might not be worth the effort because you'll probably go through a lot of equipment before settling on something for the long term.

2) I'd do all of the arenas on the highest manageable difficulty before moving on to the other battle modes.

Stats seem okay. DW is viable, but the most popular and effective melee style right now is One-handed: Slaughter rapier, force shield, and heavy armor.

3) Unless you're a heavy site contributor, you won't be able to afford gear that's worth upgrading for many, many levels; not to mention the materials required to do upgrades. 350-400+.

Got it, thank you!

Can you rate DW-style if let's say rapier+shield will be 10/10? Just wonder if I should switch to effective build now and spend another 100-150k. o_o
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post Nov 18 2014, 11:18
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QUOTE(SunderSoul @ Nov 18 2014, 03:40) *

Got it, thank you!

Can you rate DW-style if let's say rapier+shield will be 10/10? Just wonder if I should switch to effective build now and spend another 100-150k. o_o



assuming you sink as much money into it as your typical 1H player, ~7/10. maybe higher if you're in full savage shade of the shadowdancer
i wouldn't worry about switching till you hit level 250-280ish. save your money for trainings and such.
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post Nov 18 2014, 14:54
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QUOTE(SunderSoul @ Nov 18 2014, 09:40) *

Got it, thank you!

Can you rate DW-style if let's say rapier+shield will be 10/10? Just wonder if I should switch to effective build now and spend another 100-150k. o_o


As a shade user I've tried my hand with all the available styles and DW sits comfortably at the end of my personal list. I wouldn't rate it past 6/10, with Niten being 7/10 and 2H with a mace about 8/10.

DW is just too slow and cumbersome.
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post Nov 18 2014, 15:07
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Nov 18 2014, 05:54) *

As a shade user I've tried my hand with all the available styles and DW sits comfortably at the end of my personal list. I wouldn't rate it past 6/10, with Niten being 7/10 and 2H with a mace about 8/10.

DW is just too slow and cumbersome.

you use arcanist right? Your mp regen/turn?
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post Nov 18 2014, 15:13
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Got this to finally drop.... was like awwww shiiiiiit then I checked its stats..... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Nov 18 2014, 15:16
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 18 2014, 01:49) *

don't say i didn't tell you to do it on normal for the first clear bonus (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Actually i dont even need sleep. Today i killed him first without any debuffs. But i feel difference in difficulte. So i can easy clear 100 rounds on x4 and spend only 2-3 mp pots. I dont even need protection for that, only maybe in late stage with 6-7+ mobs. x6 still ok, a bit more buffs, but nothing special. I dont need spark for that or shadow veil. So still not so much mana hungry. But than i try x9 its big challenge even for 50 rounds. There is something like gap between this 2 modes and atm i cant overcome it.

Btw. I changed leggins. Lost 2517 to 2392 attack and a bit hit, crit rate (near 1%), but at the same time gain 3%+ in all 4 (phys, mag, crush and piersing) and also 200hp. Maybe not so good, but i count it as 10% incoming damage reduction and only 5% attack increase. Also i noticed 1 thing. Actually i dont need many defense, because my regen restores almost 600 each turn. So i dont care about that 200-300 hits, but the danger one is powerful shots for 3-4k. And in big group of mobs like 7+ its quite often. So i spend many time for cure, buffs and other stuff and much less for attacks. So maybe i should increase parry, block, resist or start to focusing some special mobs. I have to avoid that damage at all, not just reduce it.

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post Nov 18 2014, 15:23
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Nov 18 2014, 14:13) *

Got this to finally drop.... was like awwww shiiiiiit then I checked its stats..... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

IW it and call it "a pair of light-blue-trimmed black panties" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 18 2014, 15:37
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 19 2014, 00:23) *

IW it and call it "a pair of light-blue-trimmed black panties" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I think it might be time to sell a star (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 18 2014, 15:50
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I think it might be time to sell a star (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Call Tetron? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 18 2014, 16:04
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Call Tetron? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Have to decide on a price.... because inflation...... (and my dollar being shit) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Nov 18 2014, 22:08
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Hello experts, I know legendary is rarest but what is more rare exquisite or superior??


thanks in advance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 18 2014, 22:14
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QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ Nov 18 2014, 21:08) *

Hello experts, I know legendary is rarest but what is more rare exquisite or superior??
thanks in advance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Depends on your LotD level and the difficulty you play, but you get less exquisite then superior.
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post Nov 19 2014, 00:22
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QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ Nov 18 2014, 22:08) *

Hello experts, I know legendary is rarest but what is more rare exquisite or superior??
thanks in advance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


prefix wise crude< fair < average < superior < exquisite < magnificent < legendary < peerless

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QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ Nov 18 2014, 21:08) *

Hello experts, I know legendary is rarest but what is more rare exquisite or superior??
thanks in advance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

check here!
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post Nov 19 2014, 01:56
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Nov 18 2014, 14:07) *

you use arcanist right? Your mp regen/turn?


Yeah, Arcanist. My mp regen/turn is 1.613, my mana cost modifier is 107.4%.
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post Nov 19 2014, 07:33
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So, about these monsters you can make in HV... what is a good level to start making them? As soon as you get any chaos tokens? Or should I wait until I reach a higher level first?

Currently, I'm level 33. Here's a link to a picture with my stats on the character page:
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post Nov 19 2014, 08:00
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i understand now thank you experts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 19 2014, 09:02
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QUOTE(connecting @ Nov 18 2014, 21:33) *

So, about these monsters you can make in HV... what is a good level to start making them? As soon as you get any chaos tokens? Or should I wait until I reach a higher level first?

Currently, I'm level 33. Here's a link to a picture with my stats on the character page:
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The sooner you make them the sooner they can bring you gifts.
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post Nov 19 2014, 10:31
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QUOTE(connecting @ Nov 19 2014, 06:33) *

So, about these monsters you can make in HV... what is a good level to start making them? As soon as you get any chaos tokens? Or should I wait until I reach a higher level first?

Currently, I'm level 33. Here's a link to a picture with my stats on the character page:
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There is no reason to not use your chaos tokens right away for the first monster. But to raise it, you need crystals to reach PL 25 and raise its morale. Also, you have to feed it food every 2~3 days, so it's better if you play regularly (don't worry, they won't die if you don't, however they will get reduced morale and bring less/no gifts until you bring the morale back up).

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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Oct 11 2014, 23:05) *

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Lab

For a start, I recommend you to choose a monster class with a good END and decent STR/DEX (like Giant, Undead, Dragonkin, Mechanoid...). Never choose 'slashing' as basic attack type, because no armor is particularly vulnerable to slash (light armor's melee weakness is pierce, heavy armor's is crush). Feed your monster with monster food, and raise its PL to at least 25 by feeding it crystals (END is the priority, then STR or DEX depending on how high the base stat is). Never raise INT for a monster who can't use magical attacks (unless you just want to inflate the PL). Once it is at least PL 25, name it and it will appear in battles. Name its skill attack (he won't use it otherwise). Regarding chaos upgrades, the most interesting ones are Scavenging, Fortitude, and Brutality. Don't hesitate to take the first chaos level of everything, as it is cheap (only 1 token) and every upgrade reduces the morale bar drain rate.

Remember to feed your monsters regularly (like every day or every 2 days), they starve after 3 days otherwise (starving monsters have a higher morale drain). If you take a break or a vacation, don't worry, after 3 days of not playing HV, your monsters will stop losing morale till you get back.

Try to raise your monster to PL 200 (at PL 200, monsters gain a second skill attack and get a reduced morale drain). Don't forget to name the second skill. Make a bunch of PL 200 monsters that way.

Monsters will regularly give you gifts. If you are lucky, you may get a binding of slaughter (~160k on the market), a binding of destruction (~80k), a crystallized phazon (~240k), a defense matrix modulator (~40k), a shade fragment (~40k), a repurposed actuator (~30k), a binding of protection (~30k), a binding of the ox (~30k), a binding of the cheetah (~40k), a binding of the owl (~30k)...

Don't focus too much on monster lab at your level. Try to not buy crystals from the shop, as it is cheaper to buy them from other players (they usually sell them by batch of thousands though).

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