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Nov 17 2014, 13:24
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 17 2014, 11:18)  I shrined 1193 Trophies (1160 Boss & SG + 33 Sapling) just now for Shields category. Inventory After Shrining:  The Credit Log after I sold all the Shields:  All the results were trash as you may have guessed. Not even a single Mag. The best I got was a Exquisite grade Force Shield without DEX! Well, I didn't expect any good results to begin with! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) just to do a comparison, what would have been the incoming of the trophies alone?
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Nov 17 2014, 13:47
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TygerTyger
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 17 2014, 21:34)  I cleared PFUDOR and got intresting light item. Is it good? http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e62f6156b6Quite high defence and special mitg, also 4 stats. But, it's only exquisite and it's leather... Let me put this in perspective wannaf sells legendary leather in packs of 9 and it only sells for 50k, which is more then they're worth seeing as high-grade leather is 2k each. This post has been edited by TygerTyger: Nov 17 2014, 13:48
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Nov 17 2014, 13:48
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SPoison
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 17 2014, 02:34)  I cleared PFUDOR and got intresting light item. Is it good? http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e62f6156b6Quite high defence and special mitg, also 4 stats. No, it's not good. I strongly suggest looking into the free shop before going above level 200.
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Nov 17 2014, 13:55
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 17 2014, 13:24)  just to do a comparison, what would have been the incoming of the trophies alone?
probably, 1mil+ if he sold it to Danixx (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Nov 17 2014, 14:11
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Nov 17 2014, 12:55)  probably, 1mil+ if he sold it to Danixx (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) so, we basically can say that as long as it isn't a noodle it isn't even worth the time to shrine it, better to hoard them and sell to higher-ups (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)
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Nov 17 2014, 14:36
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 17 2014, 14:11)  so, we basically can say that as long as it isn't a noodle it isn't even worth the time to shrine it, better to hoard them and sell to higher-ups (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) imo, noodly is still a decent income source. i get 3noodly/wk (6 if i do FSM instead of TTT), so @32-35k each that's an extra ~100k/wk. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ps. for other boss trophies, you can always check DcyOau37f's user signature.
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Nov 17 2014, 14:37
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tetron
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 17 2014, 16:30)  Wow, this one is very very good! QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 17 2014, 16:54)  just to do a comparison, what would have been the incoming of the trophies alone?
Sorry but I didn't get what you're trying to say. QUOTE(malkatmp @ Nov 17 2014, 17:25)  probably, 1mil+ if he sold it to Danixx (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) Oh now I see. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 17 2014, 17:41)  so, we basically can say that as long as it isn't a noodle it isn't even worth the time to shrine it, better to hoard them and sell to higher-ups (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) Let me clarify: Getting FoS is currently a far away dream, but reaching 20m worth of "Shrined Trophies" in the Shrine is not. Furthermore, Each 20m adds 1 Peerless in your queue regardless of FoS, but the twist is that you can only get those queued peerless once you have unlocked FoS. Example: Suppose you have shrined 60m worth of Shrined Trophies but don't have FoS. You still have 3 Peerless waiting in the shrine queue. Now you get FoS, and the queue becomes active. Meaning, after you get FoS, the next 3 times you shrine trophies, you'll get 1 peerless each time. So you see, Shrining is not necessarily for those who already have FoS, but for those too who might one day get it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Nov 17 2014, 14:43
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 17 2014, 13:37)  Getting FoS is currently a far away dream, but reaching 20m worth of "Shrined Trophies" in the Shrine is not. Furthermore, Each 20m adds 1 Peerless in your queue regardless of FoS, but the twist is that you can only get those queued peerless once you have unlocked FoS. Example: Suppose you have shrined 60m worth of Shrined Trophies but don't have FoS. You still have 3 Peerless waiting in the shrine queue. Now you get FoS, and the queue becomes active. Meaning, after you get FoS, the next 3 times you shrine trophies, you'll get 1 peerless each time. So you see, Shrining is not necessarily for those who already have FoS, but for those too who might one day get it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) too long terms for me, at my actual rate i'll surely quit the game before even thinking about FoS (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) but if you did your math, good for you
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Nov 17 2014, 14:45
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colosseum_guy
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Question: Is this rapier worth upgrading/doing a little bit of item world? Since it looks quite promising as a Exq-grade rapier....I can hardy find some Mag ones as its direct upgrade (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (And My armor is draining most of the budget)
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Nov 17 2014, 14:48
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(colosseum_guy @ Nov 17 2014, 13:45)  Question: Is this rapier worth upgrading/doing a little bit of item world? Since it looks quite promising as a Exq-grade rapier....I can hardy find some Mag ones as its direct upgrade (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (And My armor is draining most of the budget) its stats are all good, but it lack a prefix. i strongly suggest you to IW prefixed weapons because of the supplemental strike
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Nov 17 2014, 15:14
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garm0
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hi guys and gals, I had to reinitialize firefox (infinite restart loop) and to reinstall greasmonkey and the scripts I use in HV, however I can't get HVSTAT to work (no icon at the top right of HV screen) and I think it is the missing one: does it add colors to the combat log text?
If not then I am missing another script...
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Nov 17 2014, 15:31
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djackallstar
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QUOTE(garm0 @ Nov 17 2014, 21:14)  hi guys and gals, I had to reinitialize firefox (infinite restart loop) and to reinstall greasmonkey and the scripts I use in HV, however I can't get HVSTAT to work (no icon at the top right of HV screen) and I think it is the missing one: does it add colors to the combat log text?
If not then I am missing another script...
Add the following lines to the metadata block: // @grant GM_getResourceText // @grant GM_getResourceURL // @grant GM_addStyle
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Nov 17 2014, 16:40
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garm0
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Thanks Djack, got it to work finally, had to deactivate the script and reactivate it within greasemonkey, everything is back! I can play HV again.
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Nov 17 2014, 17:07
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CapableScoutMan
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I don't know much about cloth armor, but there's nothing special about this, is there? It seems to me like another mediocre Exquisite, but for some reason its selling price is twice what I'd expect from one (7600c).
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Nov 17 2014, 17:17
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djackallstar
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QUOTE(garm0 @ Nov 17 2014, 22:40)  Thanks Djack, got it to work finally, had to deactivate the script and reactivate it within greasemonkey, everything is back! I can play HV again.
No problem, glad to hear that. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Nov 17 2014, 17:27
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(CapableScoutMan @ Nov 17 2014, 17:07)  I don't know much about cloth armor, but there's nothing special about this, is there? It seems to me like another mediocre Exquisite, but for some reason its selling price is twice what I'd expect from one (7600c). high pxp + phase + 100% condition. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) though, nothing special. 2pab, <Smax Evade/EBD. pretty much bazaar stuff.
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Nov 17 2014, 17:42
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CapableScoutMan
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Nov 17 2014, 17:27)  high pxp + phase + 100% condition. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) though, nothing special. 2pab, <Smax Evade/EBD. pretty much bazaar stuff. I thought as much, it's just that the unusually high price made me wonder. Thanks.
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Nov 17 2014, 17:51
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nec1986
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I did quite big work and maybe it ll be useful for other players. Nothing special for high levels, but this thread also read many low level players.
So i was concerned about good phys/magical defense ratio, so i saved few tens of logs from combat and find a bit more than 300 attacks. I have 54% phys and 50% magical, also 28% piercing, 23 crushing and almost 27% slashing mitg. As i remember it looks like fulldamage*(1-defense)*(1-spec.mitg). So not so hard to count for other equip. I did x12 about 25 rounds run in arena. Probably ll be difference in other levels, difficulte modes or something else.
My first reaction was...wait, what? only 30 magical attacks? So, actually more than 80% attacks is physical. But some of that is quite powerful. Mostly it was near 300 and wind+fire, but i also got 1 fire attack for 1200, 2 wind attacks for 1800-2300 and 1 holy for 3500. Yeah, definitely last one was big and in combo can oneshot me. But overall damage was only 17k and average damage 570.
160 piercing attacks was the most frequently. Overall damage is 69k and average is 430. Some of em was 1300-2100, but mostly its near 250-300 also. Actually without 28% mitg it could be almost 3k and only 1 holy attack was bigger. 125 crusing. Quite often too. And i had only 23% mitg, so i expected bigger average damage. Overall was 68k and average 540. And one of em was 3410. Probably quite powerful ability and u can see i had some mitg, so without it i d get 4500. 55 slasing attacks. A bit rare, also only 18k overall damage and only 330 average.
So we can see magical damage could be powerful, but at the same time its quite rare and weak. Only 10% of overall damage was magical. Crushing damage is dangerous and piercing damage is quite often, so i should max this 2. Slashing damage is rate and weak at the same time, i got only 1 attack for 1800 and its nothing.
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