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post Nov 7 2014, 18:00
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 7 2014, 01:54) *

yesterday i created a daimon instead of a celestial, but realized only after having thrown away 5k crystals (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Thanks for the warning. I'll be cautious in the future. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 7 2014, 08:47) *

Q1. Is Juggernaut additive or multiplicative when stacked?
Trying to figure out which I should get first, VV or some levels of Juggernaut.

Q2. Provided that I don't play GF, will I ever need the EE, the SS and the RR Hath perks?

Q3. Is it worthwhile to get Crystarium I, II and III, if I only play REs and arenas?

Q4. I remember that gc00018 says that level is not important once reaching Lv.330. (or Lv.350? not quite sure)
Since I already have 300/300 AL and Thinking Cap, do I still need Mentats?

Q5. 5-1
Do Corruptioin, Disintegrate and Ragnorak have the same proc chance of Ripened Soul?
5-2 Does the increase of deprecating prof increases the proc chance of Ripened Soul?

Q6. Should I ever consider getting Daemon Duality before forging the ADB of my mainhand weapon to Lv.100?

Q7. From what I see in the WTB forum, I guess that high-level mages rely heavily on scrolls to clear arenas and GF, right?
The cost of 10000x protection scrolls is 3.5m, swift scrolls 1.8m, shadow scrolls 1.2m,
and most of the time they also use infusions, which cost shitloads of credits as well.
How do they make ends meet?

Q8. Is there any catgirl been banned in the history?

Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

A1. VV since it's independent of play-style.
A2. Nope.
A3. Nope. In BT-GF, the difference is good if you have Crys I, huge if you have Crys II, and massive if you have Crys III.
A4. Dunno.
A5. Dunno.
A6. Dunno. (Since I'm a mage now and still don't have DD)
A7. Scroll are absolutely optional for regular Arenas. the SG ones however are different. Also scrolls are absolutely necessary for mages to clear GF.
A8. I'd like to know this myself. If that has happened, then what was the incident/reason?

QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 7 2014, 09:18) *

Juggernaut add to HP tank. And multiplied by VV.

Nice info. Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 7 2014, 09:18) *

Since you will get more exp from daily login than actuall playing. I don't see the reason to get high exp perks. Again, if you have nothing to buy, just get it.

Before I hit Lv.300, I could level up each day. Now I can only level up each 2 or 3 days. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

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post Nov 7 2014, 18:49
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QUOTE(derp-z2 @ Nov 7 2014, 18:24) *
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Would you recommend me a potential high bid buyer from WTB section.

The list is incomplete and is subject to change, so be sure to check those buyer's WTB threads before sending stuff.
  • Scroll of Protection: Kyoko Hori (370)
  • Scroll of Swiftness: Kyoko Hori (200)
  • Scroll of Shadows: Kyoko Hori (120)
  • Scroll of the Gods: cwx (235)
  • Scroll of Avatar: frankmelody (630)
  • Scroll of Absorption: cwx (110)
  • Last Elixier: Kyoko Hori (2.5k)
  • Aether Shard: Kyoko Hori (7.5k)
  • Energy Drink: Kyoko Hori (45k)
  • Boss & SG Trophies: jenga208 (with the best special offer), danixxx (also with special offer)
  • Unicorn Horn: Yakamoz moon (12.5k)
  • Sapling & Black T-Shirt: Almost every trophy buyer buys this at 5k.
  • Low-Grade Metals: hitokiri84, looder (150)
  • Binding of Protection: frankmelody (42k)
  • Scrap Cloth: 冰之霜哲 (92)
  • High-Grade Cloth: Trade 1 HGC with gc00018 for 3 HGM
  • Defense Matrix Modulator: NICHOLAS@ (40k)
  • Infusion of Divinity: SinBear (150)
  • Infusion of Lightning: crass1 (110)
  • Infusion of Storms: frankmelody (150 if #>100)
  • Infusion of Frost: raisarakun, holy_demon (100)
  • Other infusions: holy_demon (100)
  • Precursor Artifact: Ariahs, userlc (13k)
  • Amnesia Shard: acglover, cruelsion, issary (9k)
  • Featherweight Shard: cwx, piyin (400)
  • Crystal Pack: register1997, purng (65k)
  • Happy Pills: guokangyu2, Kyoko Hori (800)
  • Bubble-Gum: qinkin1979 (1k)
  • Legacy items: animeai


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post Nov 7 2014, 19:29
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may i know your effective dex & crit chance please?
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post Nov 7 2014, 19:51
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 7 2014, 19:49) *

[*] Boss & SG Trophies: jenga208 (with the best special offer), danixxx (also with special offer)

I'm sad now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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jenga208

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post Nov 7 2014, 20:02
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Nov 7 2014, 18:51) *

QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 7 2014, 17:49) *

Boss & SG Trophies: jenga208 (with the best special offer), danixxx (also with special offer)
I'm sad now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

time to launch a counter-attack! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

QUOTE(danixxx @ Nov 7 2014, 18:51) *

QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 7 2014, 17:49) *

jenga208

I'm sad now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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i guess he grew since last time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 7 2014, 20:16
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Nov 8 2014, 02:29) *

may i know your effective dex & crit chance please?

Effective Dex : 1206 (= 505 + 656 + 45)
Crit chance : 44.7%
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post Nov 7 2014, 20:41
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Nov 7 2014, 19:16) *

Effective Dex : 1206 (= 505 + 656 + 45)
Crit chance : 44.7%

lol, i have about half of your DEX (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 7 2014, 20:45
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 7 2014, 20:41) *

lol, i have about half of your DEX (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Nov 7 2014, 21:12
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Nov 7 2014, 19:45) *

cloth gear, i suppose. my base is slightly inferior to yours, but power armors add a similar amount. did you want to switch to mage? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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Scroll of the Gods: cwx (235)

are they really valued so low? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

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post Nov 8 2014, 02:09
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post Nov 8 2014, 02:52
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 8 2014, 04:12) *

[edit]:
SoG
are they really valued so low? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

1H won't buy them due to SV, and (rich) mages probably buy bulk in shop or even in item bots, so you won't find good offer in WTB.

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Featherweight Shard: cwx, piyin (400)

ppl still buy FSrd?!? I saw tons of them sell to bazzard, but they aren't worthless?

Oh, Jenga switch to buying upgrades now. Sigh, I hope he reach his goal or something, he's like a hero that rise up Sapling value for us poor kitten players. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 8 2014, 03:00
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My comment was ignored (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I am using scripts to make the game easier. I am using mouse-hover attack' with Shockblast, but I don't like having to press 'X' in order to turn 'hover' off, because when I face a boss-type mob I need to use Imperil. Is there any script to make this easy? To make the usage of any deprecating spell in combination with hover faster.

Then, any script to also combine attack spells? To hover using 2 spells, one that needs to cool down and then one that doesn't. Like Wrath of Thor-Shockblast in combination. WrathOfThor is used, Shockblast then, cool down ends and WrathOfThor is used again, Shockblast then, etc.

I hope somebody understands what I am saying... Thanks in advance!
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post Nov 8 2014, 03:24
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QUOTE(crazy3d @ Nov 8 2014, 10:00) *

My comment was ignored (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Question about script should be post here

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I am using scripts to make the game easier. I am using mouse-hover attack' with Shockblast, but I don't like having to press 'X' in order to turn 'hover' off, because when I face a boss-type mob I need to use Imperil. Is there any script to make this easy? To make the usage of any deprecating spell in combination with hover faster.

I don't use hoverplay so I don't know, but Spellspam allow me to use hover for normal mobs, then click to imperil SG, right click to heal and buff, etc... I set them up myself.

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Then, any script to also combine attack spells? To hover using 2 spells, one that needs to cool down and then one that doesn't. Like Wrath of Thor-Shockblast in combination. WrathOfThor is used, Shockblast then, cool down ends and WrathOfThor is used again, Shockblast then, etc.

I hope somebody understands what I am saying... Thanks in advance!

Spellspam (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) . Put T3, T2 before T1 spells and you all set.
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post Nov 8 2014, 05:20
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Ok thanks man, awesome thanks for the help.
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post Nov 8 2014, 06:42
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1. Does Force Shield's base block chance really affects much even in small difference?
I mean, How big would the difference be for a 31.88 and 30.88 block chance diff?
IMO better PAB values are more important than this gap, but is it true?

2.Why ppl love force shield of warding more than others?

3.does attack damage heavily affects value of power armor?
Like, a piece with base value about 2/3 of Emax, does results in poor price?
(Or should I focus on PABs even if it's 2/3 of Emax?)

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post Nov 8 2014, 07:36
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QUOTE(colosseum_guy @ Nov 8 2014, 06:42) *

1. Does Force Shield's base block chance really affects much even in small difference?
I mean, How big would the difference be for a 31.88 and 30.88 block chance diff?
IMO better PAB values are more important than this gap, but is it true?

2.Why ppl love force shield of warding more than others?

3.does attack damage heavily affects value of power armor?
Like, a piece with base value about 2/3 of Emax, does results in poor price?
(Or should I focus on PABs even if it's 2/3 of Emax?)


1. 30.88 is Smax, 31.88 is Emax-1, 32.87 is Emax

if we factor in Level scaling @173: Smax = 33.55%; Emax-1 = 34.63%; Emax = 35.71%;
if we factor in Level scaling @355: Smax = 36.36%; Emax-1 = 37.53%; Emax = 38.70%;

however, since 1H+heavy solely rely on Block for defense, those extra 1-2% of block% does help out a bit especially when you start forging it (ie a Mmax+ shield). also, an Emax shield is relatively cheap nowadays. though, a Smax should be fine for now. if you want, i can give you this for free.

2. don't know. maybe, more defense against Celestial magic attacks? imo, block%>PAB>suffix>prefix.

3. Yes. PAB do matter, because Str/Dex both contribute to ADB. however, generally, raw AD from power armor provides better ADB than Str/Dex.
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post Nov 8 2014, 07:59
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Nov 8 2014, 14:36) *

3. Yes. PAB do matter, because Str/Dex both contribute to ADB. however, generally, raw AD from power armor provides better ADB than Str/Dex.

Right, I also want to ask about this. According to EHwaiki
Base physical damage = (log(3330 + STR * 2 + DEX , 1.0003) - 27039.81) + (weapon_prof * TYPE) + (equipment_Attack_Damage_Bonus)

Because of the damn logarith, I can't tell how much a 1 point in Str can replace the amount of AD from equips. Can you give some estimate?
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post Nov 8 2014, 08:11
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Nov 8 2014, 07:59) *

Right, I also want to ask about this. According to EHwaiki
Base physical damage = (log(3330 + STR * 2 + DEX , 1.0003) - 27039.81) + (weapon_prof * TYPE) + (equipment_Attack_Damage_Bonus)

Because of the damn logarith, I can't tell how much a 1 point in Str can replace the amount of AD from equips. Can you give some estimate?


just from my guesstimation, Str provides ~1.6-1.8 ABD and Dex is closer to 0.8. Math is hard. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Nov 8 2014, 08:43
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2.Why ppl love force shield of warding more than others?

Force shield can provide more than enough defense from physical attack. Even if in the highest difficulty, a force shield can allow you completely no need to heal in all arena, when Spirit shield is active. Then, the issue of 1H power user become MP and SP consumption in long run.

Warding suffix can reduce the incoming damage from magic by a few percent, which in turn reduce the SP consumption a lot.

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post Nov 8 2014, 09:03
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At mid-low level AD is almost raised by ~2 per 1 STR and ~1 per 1 DEX.
But as level (= stat) goes up, pure ADB is better due to the logarithm formula.

For example you can get ~2.21 AD by raising 1 STR (about +1.47 AD) and 1 DEX (about +0.74 AD) when STR = DEX are around 400.

Now my STR = DEX are around 1200 so that I get only ~1.44 AD by raising 1 STR (about +0.96 AD) and 1 DEX (about +0.48 AD).

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