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post Nov 2 2014, 19:53
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post Nov 2 2014, 21:20
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Greetings masters,

I have some questions about my build

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I was using 2h until lv 50, then switching to mage and finding that it's really convenient, at least on patch 0.76

now I'm coming back and I think my build really fails me so much. I only could do Nintendo RE, with 85% success rate (monster >9 and im unlucky then im as good as dead)

My question is, did I do something wrong? @@

Should I stayed the path as a mage, or abandon all hope and switch to current 1h + shield + heavy armor meta?
But I like being mages (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

my current gear : copied from my sigz

Staff - Head - Body - Hands - Legs - Shoes


And one more, what is PFUDOR-fest?
or is there some list of acronyms that I should know?
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post Nov 2 2014, 21:29
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So i already got 105 lvl and maybe ll get 110 today. Should i focus something specific? Or just grindfest farm without stop on high difficulte and arena everyday?
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post Nov 2 2014, 21:44
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So i already got 105 lvl and maybe ll get 110 today. Should i focus something specific? Or just grindfest farm without stop on high difficulte and arena everyday?

Arena is the priority, only do grindfest if you have already cleared all arenas and still have your stamina above 80 (you will later unlock enough arenas to be able to reach 80 stamina without doing any grindfest).
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post Nov 2 2014, 22:23
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QUOTE(Eclair de Larmes @ Nov 2 2014, 20:20) *

Greetings masters,

I have some questions about my build
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I was using 2h until lv 50, then switching to mage and finding that it's really convenient, at least on patch 0.76

now I'm coming back and I think my build really fails me so much. I only could do Nintendo RE, with 85% success rate (monster >9 and im unlucky then im as good as dead)

My question is, did I do something wrong? @@

Should I stayed the path as a mage, or abandon all hope and switch to current 1h + shield + heavy armor meta?
But I like being mages (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

my current gear : copied from my sigz

Staff - Head - Body - Hands - Legs - Shoes
And one more, what is PFUDOR-fest?
or is there some list of acronyms that I should know?

I think your gears are actually the things that fail you. I see some very old ones that don't possess any resist, which is pretty lethal at higher difficulties. In the current patch, you should primarily aim for evade as you def and elemental damage bonus for offense.
It's the eternal glass cannon build so the less hits you take, the better it is ^^

PFUDOR-fest is grindfest @PFUDOR, nothing too complicated. You can find other acronyms here
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post Nov 2 2014, 22:33
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QUOTE(Eclair de Larmes @ Nov 2 2014, 20:20) *

Greetings masters,

I have some questions about my build

I was using 2h until lv 50, then switching to mage and finding that it's really convenient, at least on patch 0.76

now I'm coming back and I think my build really fails me so much. I only could do Nintendo RE, with 85% success rate (monster >9 and im unlucky then im as good as dead)

My question is, did I do something wrong? @@

Should I stayed the path as a mage, or abandon all hope and switch to current 1h + shield + heavy armor meta?
But I like being mages (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

my current gear : copied from my sigz

Staff - Head - Body - Hands - Legs - Shoes
And one more, what is PFUDOR-fest?
or is there some list of acronyms that I should know?

Your gear is somewhat bad.
For a start, you should focus on only one element (holy or dark). Holy is more popular since it boosts Cure and inflicts Breached Defense (-10% MMI). Or maybe use elemental magic instead (Fire/Cold/Electric/Wind) (I don't recommend Fire), along with Imperil.
Get an exquisite+ staff with matching prefix/type/suffix (like a hallowed oak staff of heimdall for example). Get some exquisite+ phase armor with EMax EDB, good Evade, and 3 PABs (AGI/INT/WIS). You may add one very good proficiency cotton in the mix.

USE SP TANK. It doesn't boost your base spirit, so spells like Spark of Life and Spirit Shield will seem to drain less spirit. It is probably one reason (along with gear) that you struggle so much.
Actually, I see that you don't have Better Spirit Shield slotted (!), so slot that too and use it in battle. You need both Spirit Shield and Spark of Life as a mage.
Slot Cloth Spellacc and Cloth MP.
Slot a spike shield (blue slot), it is very cheap. For mage, I recommend Storm or Flame. If you switch to elemental, pick the one boosting your damage (Flame if you use Cold for example).
Better Drain is broken, don't slot it.

As a mage, you don't really need STR. Even having it at 0 is okay.

In the meantime, do arenas at Hell for example. It will still allow you to train your profs and get credits.

PFUDOR-fest = Grindfest at PFUDOR difficulty. The wiki has a list of acronyms.

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post Nov 3 2014, 07:07
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Some questions about the proficiency suffix of a staff.

There are five proficiency suffixes
  • of the Elementalist: Increases Elemental Proficiency
  • of the Heaven-sent: Increases Divine Proficiency
  • of the Demon-fiend: Increases Forbidden Proficiency
  • of the Earth-walker: Increases Supportive Proficiency
  • of the Curse-weaver: Increases Deprecating Proficiency
Among all of D's twentyish auctions, there are only two earth-walker staves.And only three curse-weaver staves.
  • D's Weekly Auction #82 Legendary Tempestuous Willow Staff of the Curse-weaver, 50k (No equip link coz it's been salvaged or bazaared)
  • D's Weekly Auction #94 Legendary Arctic Willow Staff of the Curse-weaver, No bid. (No equip link coz it's been salvaged or bazaared)
  • D's Weekly Auction #95 Legendary Tempestuous Willow Staff of the Curse-weaver, No bid. (No equip link coz it's been salvaged or bazaared)
Q1.
Why is an earch-walker or curse-weaver staff so unpopular?
You know, Hath Perks like Evil Enchantress or Force of Nature costs huge amounts of credits,
but one can increase his deprecating or supportive proficiency by simply getting a such staff.
Quick and easy, isn't it?

Q2.
Who uses an earth-walker or curse-weaver staff?

Q3.
Is Supportive = Curative? (I saw some ppl use the term Curative in other posts before)

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post Nov 3 2014, 07:28
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 3 2014, 14:07) *

Q1.
Why is an earch-walker or curse-weaver staff so unpopular?
You know, Hath Perks like Evil Enchantress or Force of Nature costs huge amounts of credits,
but one can increase his deprecating or supportive proficiency by simply getting a such staff.
Quick and easy, isn't it?

Simple. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
You can maintain the mage's firepower even with getting Evil Enchantress or Force of Nature.
But you will lose the firepower if you use earth-walker or curse-weaver.
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Q2.
Who uses an earth-walker or curse-weaver staff?

Full-time mages would not use it. For novice mages or collection only.
The prices tell it.
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Q3.
Is Supportive = Curative? (I saw some ppl use the term Curative in other posts before)

Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

In current HV version, yes.

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post Nov 3 2014, 07:30
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 2 2014, 21:07) *

Some questions about the proficiency suffix of a staff.Q1.
Why is an earch-walker or curse-weaver staff so unpopular?
You know, Hath Perks like Evil Enchantress or Force of Nature costs huge amounts of credits,
but one can increase his deprecating or supportive proficiency by simply getting a such staff.
Quick and easy, isn't it?

Q2.
Who uses an earth-walker or curse-weaver staff?

Q3.
Is Supportive = Curative? (I saw some ppl use the term Curative in other posts before)

Thanks. :)


1) Supportive proficiency is useless because a) Supportive spells last up to several hundred turns; b) mages have a ton of MP and several ways to restore it so they don't have to be frugal in most situations; and c) mages get frequent Channeling procs that can be used to refresh buffs. The only reason you'd want to wear Earth-walker gear, that I can think of, is if you want to significantly boost the amount of HP restored by Regen for some reason.

Deprecating you could argue is a quality-of-life proficiency if you're an Imperil-heavy mage. Imperil getting resisted is one of my biggest pet-peeves and I've often thought about wearing Curse-weaver shoes to make that part of battle go smoother, but at the end of the day it's not really worth the hit to my damage. Evil Enchantress is on my to-do list, however.

2) No one that I know of.

3) Curative used to be a stand-alone proficiency. It affected the amount of HP restored by Cure and Regen and Regen II, as well as the duration of the Regen family. In 0.73 it was removed and Supportive proficiency took over its functions.
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post Nov 3 2014, 08:38
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Hello veterans,

I just started HV a week ago so i can get some credits to download doujinshi.
So far, after reading the wiki and some posts, here are my stats:

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i heard that doing 2H AND heavy armor is a very slow style, base on my goal of making credits, should i switch to another style? Is is too late?

Also, i was interested in playing mage before i went with 2H, I wonder whats the difference between the two?

How much concentration do i need to play mage? So far with 2H, i just need to keep pressing 1 until the first monster dies, then press 2, then 3, etc, etc. I kinda like this cuz i can play while doing something else, would the mage style be any different?

Sorry for all the questions, thanks!
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post Nov 3 2014, 09:18
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Use 2h light armour. Mace or estoc.

Get to level 30, go to freeshop located in WTS forum. Read the rules and the last ten pages for examples of what not to do before requesting.

Mage dies too fast without heavy investment.

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post Nov 3 2014, 09:35
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QUOTE(Silver_Night @ Nov 3 2014, 14:38) *

Hello veterans,

I just started HV a week ago so i can get some credits to download doujinshi.
So far, after reading the wiki and some posts, here are my stats:

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i heard that doing 2H AND heavy armor is a very slow style, base on my goal of making credits, should i switch to another style? Is is too late?

Also, i was interested in playing mage before i went with 2H, I wonder whats the difference between the two?

How much concentration do i need to play mage? So far with 2H, i just need to keep pressing 1 until the first monster dies, then press 2, then 3, etc, etc. I kinda like this cuz i can play while doing something else, would the mage style be any different?

Sorry for all the questions, thanks!


Playing HV is not an effective way to earn credits. FYI, HV is a credits sink.
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:46
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You two are really pro, thx a lot. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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And here is yours:
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:52
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QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 3 2014, 00:35) *

Playing HV is not an effective way to earn credits. FYI, HV is a credits sink.

unless people just do daily arena to harvest tokens, create 100 mobs, feed crystals just to take care their moral, then crossing fingers to catch expensive mats.
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post Nov 3 2014, 11:05
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IIRC etothex cleared hellfest with his niten set.



Very interesting, 107 min is faster than my mjolnir set. I can do the first 500 very fast but then the dmg exceeds my def and I have to heal constantly :/.

Everyone seems to be using Power + Ninten not Shade + ninten like I am currently building. Maybe I am building the wrong thing.
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post Nov 3 2014, 11:21
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QUOTE(Silver_Night @ Nov 3 2014, 07:38) *

i heard that doing 2H AND heavy armor is a very slow style, base on my goal of making credits, should i switch to another style? Is is too late?

Also, i was interested in playing mage before i went with 2H, I wonder whats the difference between the two?

How much concentration do i need to play mage? So far with 2H, i just need to keep pressing 1 until the first monster dies, then press 2, then 3, etc, etc. I kinda like this cuz i can play while doing something else, would the mage style be any different?

Sorry for all the questions, thanks!


It's never too late to switch styles, but it's too early for you to play mage. At your level it's like playing russian roulette. I'd wait to get Spark of Life before giving it a go.

2H Mace is the safest route, I'd suggest to keep at it for another couple hundreds levels. FWIW, I'v been playing 2H Mace since day 1 and I'm still playing it.
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post Nov 3 2014, 11:25
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I'm full light and DW.
I never have any problems with Arenas though I rarely have the time to grindfest. Cake is almost infinate though, and boring. I can hit 25 rounds in normal most of the time without problems or many items either.

Something that has been said rather alot is light armour sucks when it aint keflar or whatever, but overall though I'm doing fine.

My armour is always average dragon or superior light as a min, and I use the axe and dagger for a good balance of damage and acc. My axe is ex with a very nice bleed which procs often.

Because of the low interferance with light armour I can heal myself just fine when I need to, and with dodge and resist its not as bad as its been said overall here. Granted I may not be as high level wise as some of the others, but considering I have no problems when fighting arenas I thought it should at least be said that light armour isn't all that bad. As it was said before, proficiency rules overall; I'm hitting the same def as some people at my level are hitting with heavy armour, but I have higher evade, parry and resist.
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post Nov 3 2014, 11:53
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 3 2014, 10:37) *

Some questions about the proficiency suffix of a staff.

There are five proficiency suffixes
  • of the Elementalist: Increases Elemental Proficiency
  • of the Heaven-sent: Increases Divine Proficiency
  • of the Demon-fiend: Increases Forbidden Proficiency
  • of the Earth-walker: Increases Supportive Proficiency
  • of the Curse-weaver: Increases Deprecating Proficiency
Among all of D's twentyish auctions, there are only two earth-walker staves.And only three curse-weaver staves.
  • D's Weekly Auction #82 Legendary Tempestuous Willow Staff of the Curse-weaver, 50k (No equip link coz it's been salvaged or bazaared)
  • D's Weekly Auction #94 Legendary Arctic Willow Staff of the Curse-weaver, No bid. (No equip link coz it's been salvaged or bazaared)
  • D's Weekly Auction #95 Legendary Tempestuous Willow Staff of the Curse-weaver, No bid. (No equip link coz it's been salvaged or bazaared)
Q1.
Why is an earch-walker or curse-weaver staff so unpopular?
You know, Hath Perks like Evil Enchantress or Force of Nature costs huge amounts of credits,
but one can increase his deprecating or supportive proficiency by simply getting a such staff.
Quick and easy, isn't it?

Q2.
Who uses an earth-walker or curse-weaver staff?

Q3.
Is Supportive = Curative? (I saw some ppl use the term Curative in other posts before)

Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

As Cats Lover said, you have to sacrifice too much firepower to use those staffs. So they are more like collectables. For example, I like to collect Leg-Grade Earth-Walker Staffs. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Only viable use of Earth Walker is to use it as 1 piece of cotton proficiency (shoe), which lets you go a little bit deeper into Grindfest, but the benefits are minimal. Curse Weaver on the other hand is totally Dead Weight (except for the perk and staff's inbuilt secondary proficiency). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(n125 @ Nov 3 2014, 11:00) *

Curative used to be a stand-alone proficiency. It affected the amount of HP restored by Cure and Regen and Regen II, as well as the duration of the Regen family. In 0.73 it was removed and Supportive proficiency took over its functions.

Nice Info. Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 3 2014, 13:05) *

Playing HV is not an effective way to earn credits. FYI, HV is a credits sink.

Nope, it's the Auctions. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Nov 3 2014, 11:55
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QUOTE(kianwood @ Nov 3 2014, 14:55) *

I'm full light and DW.
I never have any problems with Arenas though I rarely have the time to grindfest. Cake is almost infinate though, and boring. I can hit 25 rounds in normal most of the time without problems or many items either.

Something that has been said rather alot is light armour sucks when it aint keflar or whatever, but overall though I'm doing fine.

My armour is always average dragon or superior light as a min, and I use the axe and dagger for a good balance of damage and acc. My axe is ex with a very nice bleed which procs often.

Because of the low interferance with light armour I can heal myself just fine when I need to, and with dodge and resist its not as bad as its been said overall here. Granted I may not be as high level wise as some of the others, but considering I have no problems when fighting arenas I thought it should at least be said that light armour isn't all that bad. As it was said before, proficiency rules overall; I'm hitting the same def as some people at my level are hitting with heavy armour, but I have higher evade, parry and resist.

You just joined today and you are Level 0! What you are saying doesn't match the data we can see. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Nov 3 2014, 12:35
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 3 2014, 01:55) *

You just joined today and you are Level 0! What you are saying doesn't match the data we can see. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


Some twilight zone shit going on up in here.
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