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Oct 31 2014, 11:09
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tuypo
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I think he means it could cause you to level up to fast and not be able to get your profeciencys up fast enough to keep up with the monsters rising in power
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Oct 31 2014, 12:14
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gynew
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QUOTE(Delques1843 @ Oct 30 2014, 23:09)  I want to donate to EH to get some perks! But I heard that donating actually screws with HV because of the EXP boost? why? is it really significant?
QUOTE(tuypo @ Oct 31 2014, 03:09)  I think he means it could cause you to level up to fast and not be able to get your profeciencys up fast enough to keep up with the monsters rising in power
While it's true that your proficiency level will be left behind at first, I don't think that's an issue for anybody to care about. Having a donation star, without any doubt is a good thing that gives you many benefits. The only disavantage I can think of for leveling too fast is that a lot of sellers in shops are nicer to low level players. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) But still the haths and credits gained with a donation star are much better. Just take advantage of that before you get to level ~200, and don't forget to visit the Free Shared Shop (be sure to read all their rules.) In any case, even without any kind of boost, leveling at the beginning is still very fast so if you play the game constantly it won't make much difference in that aspect. The only reason for having serious doubts about getting a donation star is always the same: Money (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) EDIT: For some reason I assumed the donation was for a Gold Star. Replaced gold for donation. This post has been edited by gynew: Oct 31 2014, 12:21
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Oct 31 2014, 14:19
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m118w11
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QUOTE(Delques1843 @ Oct 31 2014, 07:09)  I want to donate to EH to get some perks! But I heard that donating actually screws with HV because of the EXP boost? why? is it really significant?
It isn't an issue*, just remember to keep updating your gear as you level. If the leveling issue is really a concern you can adopt servers and not get the exp boost. If you want to support the site and don't have disposable income, you can help with the galleries (translating, editing, uploading, reviewing, rating, tagging etc.). *it used to be an issue before, you would hit 200 and suddenly you get all the top monsters in at once. For me, I was happily clearing BT at 195, then at 200 I pretty much had to switch to Normal.
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Oct 31 2014, 16:56
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Delques1843
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Thanks for all the input! I will start donating when i am near lvl 200 then, cuz all the free shop stuff. Now i feel a little guilty (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Oct 31 2014, 20:21
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nec1986
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About skills. Should i use some before 200? I`m playing 2h and using only cure and sometimes protection (if lose 3 times of max hp during that duration). All others seems like bad investments. F.e. haste? But i`m only near 70lvl.
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Oct 31 2014, 20:27
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KOR DayDream
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 1 2014, 03:21)  About skills. Should i use some before 200? I`m playing 2h and using only cure and sometimes protection (if lose 3 times of max hp during that duration). All others seems like bad investments. F.e. haste? But i`m only near 70lvl.
Level doesn't matter: Regen Haste Protection are MUST(though kinda inefficient at low level, still you should use it) Using them will make you go thru higher difficulties.
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Oct 31 2014, 20:36
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nec1986
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Thx. What about others? For example absorb?
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Oct 31 2014, 21:36
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 31 2014, 19:36)  Thx. What about others? For example absorb?
never used the absorb scroll, but i had a huge stock of scrolls of absorption and found them quite useful to do the last arena. there's something more efficient than that, but as an emergency plan it's not so bad other useful deprecating spells may be weaken, slow, imperil (especially for mages) and silence (when facing many powerful enemies). at lower levels i used to use a combination of all available deprecatings to end PF REs with more than 7/8 mobs This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 31 2014, 21:38
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Oct 31 2014, 21:58
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nec1986
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I tried and seems i got the point. Mana pots cost rly low, but at the same time harder difficulte gives much more exp. Its so fast to level up.
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Oct 31 2014, 23:00
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 31 2014, 20:58)  I tried and seems i got the point. Mana pots cost rly low, but at the same time harder difficulte gives much more exp. Its so fast to level up.
yep. best way to gain exp is RE, btw: it's not so rare to find a big number of mobs, but it's also one round only so you shouldn't have problems of mana economy even at high difficulties
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Nov 1 2014, 03:57
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kumosu
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QUOTE(Delques1843 @ Oct 31 2014, 23:56)  Thanks for all the input! I will start donating when i am near lvl 200 then, cuz all the free shop stuff. Now i feel a little guilty (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) You witty fox. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) However, if you get a gold star, then the among of credit and hath you receive per week are good enough to topped of any of freeshop pieces, it would be a wasted if you don't donate quickly. But if you aim for a silver star only, then sure, wait for lv 200. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Nov 1 2014, 06:45
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sappypappy
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How should I distribute my stats? I'm playing as a melee rapier user(if that matters) and going 2/1/1/1(str/dex/agi/end) with a couple of points in wisdom.
This post has been edited by sappypappy: Nov 1 2014, 06:47
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Nov 1 2014, 06:53
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(sappypappy @ Nov 1 2014, 13:45)  How should I distribute my stats? I'm playing as a melee rapier user(if that matters) and going 2/1/1/1(str/dex/agi/end) with a couple of points in wisdom.
STR = DEX = END = WIS AGI = STR - 10~20 if you're equipped with heavy INT = STR - 20~40
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Nov 1 2014, 07:09
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kumosu
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QUOTE(sappypappy @ Nov 1 2014, 13:45)  How should I distribute my stats? I'm playing as a melee rapier user(if that matters) and going 2/1/1/1(str/dex/agi/end) with a couple of points in wisdom.
Actually, it defend on your lv to bring out the maximum effects: Lv0-100: Str>Dex=End>Agi>>Wis, Int=0 Lv100-300: Str=Dex=End=Agi=Wis, Int=1/2Lv (the different in those first 5 stats are very small) Lv300-max: Depend on play. This post has been edited by kumosu: Nov 1 2014, 12:08
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Nov 1 2014, 08:32
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nec1986
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So, u mean srt=dex=end=agin for numbers or updating? F.e. should it be 120 for all and increase lowers first?
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Nov 1 2014, 08:48
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kumosu
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 1 2014, 15:32)  So, u mean srt=dex=end=agin for numbers or updating? F.e. should it be 120 for all and increase lowers first?
Base stats, not the total ones. The main reason is because the further you increase a stat, the more exp you need, so balance what you need will bring out the most points. The rest can be compensate by equips. Only get rid of Int for melee and Str for mage because they only give a tiny bit of SP, you won't need that until higher LV
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Nov 1 2014, 10:28
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Hoheneim
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Nov 1 2014, 06:09)  Actually, it defend on your lv to bring out the maximum effects: Lv0-100: Str>Dex=End>Agi>>Wis, Int=0 Lv100-300: Str=Dex=End=Agi=Wis, Int=1/2Lv (the different in those first 5 stats are very small) Lv300-max: All stats equal.
At lvl300+ as a melee char you can keep Int 100pts behind and Wis 50pts behind the physical stats.
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Nov 1 2014, 10:51
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kumosu
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Nov 1 2014, 17:28)  At lvl300+ as a melee char you can keep Int 100pts behind and Wis 50pts behind the physical stats.
Sure, you don't need Int that much if you don't switch melee/mage after 300, but don't you need Wis for the long run like DwD? I don't like to use focus often because it mess up my play and cost me more time, so I'm good with Wis equal to other stat.
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Nov 1 2014, 11:36
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Hoheneim
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Nov 1 2014, 09:51)  Sure, you don't need Int that much if you don't switch melee/mage after 300, but don't you need Wis for the long run like DwD? I don't like to use focus often because it mess up my play and cost me more time, so I'm good with Wis equal to other stat.
I'm an Arcanist 2H, my mana cost is around 112% so my mana consumption is low. I almost never get to use focus, actually I run out of patience before I run out of consumables. Maybe one day I'll get to finish DwD also on PFUDOR, if I can somehow endure its utter boredom.
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Nov 1 2014, 12:07
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kumosu
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Nov 1 2014, 18:36)  I'm an Arcanist 2H, my mana cost is around 112% so my mana consumption is low. I almost never get to use focus, actually I run out of patience before I run out of consumables.
Maybe one day I'll get to finish DwD also on PFUDOR, if I can somehow endure its utter boredom.
Ok, thank for the input, mine is 1H with 170% mana consumption (hallowed weapon) so mana is quite troublesome for those latest SG arenas. I will try some featherweight shards to see if the time play can be improve by using less mana pots. For now I will fix my post as "depend". LV300 seem to open up to many variable that I can't cover all of the situations.
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