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post Oct 28 2014, 20:51
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Oct 28 2014, 23:57) *

also, 10 secs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Elec Mage to be precise. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

The credit goes to Colman. He was the one to taught me how to optimize Mage style. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 29 2014, 00:00) *

On the plus side, it's way cheaper to forge. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

So True. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Oct 29 2014, 00:06) *

I used a mace when I was before lv.300. The Rending Blow is very useful for mace users.

I think if Stun could Stack, Mace would have been a hotcake!
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post Oct 28 2014, 20:55
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 28 2014, 20:51) *

I think if Stun could Stack, Mace would have been a hotcake!


Back in the day, it used to.
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post Oct 28 2014, 20:58
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 29 2014, 02:07) *

Only Estoc? Wasn't Mace any good (Since It can Stun multiple mob at once)? Or did it used to have a different Proc in the past? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Mace cannot kill fast without skill. But more skill = less spirit stance. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
BTW, why need to use skill if you can kill all mobs in a few second?
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What's the status of DW right now? Is it currently faster than 1H in SG runs?

Since the the new difficulty (PF) has appeared, where mobs have much higher chance to cast magic. It make
  • 2H plate can only play up to IWBTH, or a lot of heals. Mace will require more heal than estoc.
  • 2H power .........
  • DW heavy (power) cannot survive in PF, or super a lot of heal. So DW need light armor, especially shade armor. And shade need ethereal weapons......
  • 1H power have high ADB, passive stun, ultra high defense against both physical and magical attacks. No forge is needed to make it work in all arena except SG arena. So it started to become popular.
QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 29 2014, 02:51) *

I think if Stun could Stack, Mace would have been a hotcake!

Stun could stack, and stunned monsters got 1.5x damage in the past. It seems it was very good but in fact mage can one-shot everything at that time. Other melee style was completely death.

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post Oct 28 2014, 21:05
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 29 2014, 00:25) *

Back in the day, it used to.

Okay, now I see why they were nerfed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 29 2014, 00:28) *

Mace cannot kill fast without skill. But more skill = less spirit stance. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
BTW, why need to use skill if you can kill all mobs in a few second?

Since the the new difficulty (PF) appear, where mobs have much higher chance to cast magic. It make
  • 2H plate can only play up to IWBTH, or a lot of heals. Mace will require more heal than estoc.
  • 2H power .........
  • DW heavy (power) cannot survive in PF, or super a lot of heal. So DW need light armor, especially shade armor. And shade need ethereal weapons......
  • 1H power have high ADB, passive stun, ultra high defense against both physical and magical attacks. Not forge is need to make it work in all arena except SG arena. So it started popular.

Glad to know. Only Melee I play is 1H-Power. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 29 2014, 00:28) *

Stun could stack, and stunned monsters got 1.5x damage in the past. It seems it was very good but in fact mage can one-shot everything at that time. Other melee style was completely death.

I see. Nice info. Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 28 2014, 22:34
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Greetings

Question

Do Level 0 unbound weapons also degrade with time and need repair or only upgraded weapons do?

In connection to this do FS weapons need to be repaired before handed back to it or maintained by the players ?

It just occurred to me now !!!!!????

Waiting for reply

Thanks

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post Oct 28 2014, 23:29
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QUOTE(derp-z2 @ Oct 28 2014, 22:34) *

Greetings

Question

Do Level 0 unbound weapons also degrade with time and need repair or only upgraded weapons do?

In connection to this do FS weapons need to be repaired before handed back to it or maintained by the players ?

It just occurred to me now !!!!!????

Waiting for reply

Thanks


Any and every weapon needs maintenance, not just upgraded ones.

It's my understanding that the Free Shop equipments are yours for the taking. Even if that wasn't the case, giving equips in 100% condition to the Free Shop looks like a proper thing to do...
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post Oct 29 2014, 02:01
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 29 2014, 02:17) *

Agreed. Shield of Barrier are broken. Like some old Shade having "Reinforced" Prefix.

Whoa, nice information. Is there any other interesting combination from old times, aside from those listed in wiki?
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post Oct 29 2014, 02:24
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 28 2014, 18:05) *

Old kite of barrier is good. New kite is rubbish.


Legendary Mithril Kite Shield of the Barrier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Oct 29 2014, 03:01
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What do people find so good about the game that it makes them (you) play it every day?
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post Oct 29 2014, 07:24
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Just got my first Chaos Token!

Question to the experts, should i spend it now? ( i am in the mid 40s btw, using DW) How much help can a monster bring? I know you need to keep feeding the monster food to keep it happy, whats the cost on that?

Thanks for answering my questions!
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post Oct 29 2014, 07:49
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Is there anyway I can earn more credits?
Training Scavenger does not seem to work and Luck of the Draw does not affect the amount of moneys dropped.
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post Oct 29 2014, 07:51
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QUOTE(Delques1843 @ Oct 28 2014, 22:24) *

Just got my first Chaos Token!

Question to the experts, should i spend it now? ( i am in the mid 40s btw, using DW) How much help can a monster bring? I know you need to keep feeding the monster food to keep it happy, whats the cost on that?

Thanks for answering my questions!


When it comes to the Monster Lab at low levels, my usual suggestion is to do whatever you want as long as you don't spend credits on it. So feel free to create a monster and maintain it with the crystals, food, and pills you find on your own. Every few days it will bring you a gift, and most of the time it will be low/mid-grade materials, but if you get really lucky and score a Crystallized Phazon or Binding of Slaughter, you'll be very happy.

The main problem is that at low levels, you don't have enough income to create high-PL monsters, and due to the sheer number of low-PL monsters in the system, your own low-PL monsters won't see much action and therefore not have much opportunity to earn wins/kills.
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post Oct 29 2014, 07:57
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QUOTE(Delques1843 @ Oct 29 2014, 07:24) *

Just got my first Chaos Token!

Question to the experts, should i spend it now? ( i am in the mid 40s btw, using DW) How much help can a monster bring? I know you need to keep feeding the monster food to keep it happy, whats the cost on that?

Thanks for answering my questions!


Oh god no.
Don't create a monster yet. Trust me, at your level, monsters will be more of a burden than anything.
  • They need ALOT of crystals to upgrade. (You will spend as much as 10K per element/stats for proper leveling)
  • They eat alot and their hunger must be maintained at green level or else the bonuses won't work
  • If you won't upgrade them, their morale will deplete faster
  • Morale affects everything and Happy Pills costs 2K
Just wait until you have at least 15+ chaos tokens then upgrade that monster using those tokens. The more chaos tokens you spend on upgrading him, the slower his morale will deplete.

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post Oct 29 2014, 08:05
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QUOTE(hananahana @ Oct 29 2014, 03:01) *

What do people find so good about the game that it makes them (you) play it every day?


imo, it's just something to do while i'm watching tv.

QUOTE(Delques1843 @ Oct 29 2014, 07:24) *

Just got my first Chaos Token!

Question to the experts, should i spend it now? ( i am in the mid 40s btw, using DW) How much help can a monster bring? I know you need to keep feeding the monster food to keep it happy, whats the cost on that?

Thanks for answering my questions!


imo, i used to have a bunch of low PL monsters (ie PL25-50) and they will mostly bring you LG mats that can sell for 100-200c once-twice per week. though, once in a while they can bring you a binding or CP that can sell for 100-250k. also, it's very manageable & food/happy pill is cheap.

QUOTE(Centifolia @ Oct 29 2014, 07:49) *

Is there anyway I can earn more credits?
Training Scavenger does not seem to work and Luck of the Draw does not affect the amount of moneys dropped.


have some other income upload stuff/donate/run H@H/seed torrent/bounties/etc.

if not, having a bunch of low lvl monsters or have a faster clear time & play a lot. Scavenger/Lotd do earn you more credits, but only slightly.
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post Oct 29 2014, 08:33
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QUOTE(Centifolia @ Oct 29 2014, 14:49) *

Is there anyway I can earn more credits?
Training Scavenger does not seem to work and Luck of the Draw does not affect the amount of moneys dropped.

Clear daily Arenas -> Token of Blood -> fight FSM -> Noddies -> sell for 32k
Trust me, after months of playing I got 30 Blood, 65 Chaos but only ONE crappy Mag drop, few dozen of Exq, all worth less than 100k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (plus hundreds of.... scraps), so you know which is more reliable source of income. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Edit: oops sorry, fixed

Edit2: ok, screw that, just remember that the current market price for Noddies is around 32k

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post Oct 29 2014, 08:37
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QUOTE(Centifolia @ Oct 28 2014, 22:49) *

Is there anyway I can earn more credits?
Training Scavenger does not seem to work and Luck of the Draw does not affect the amount of moneys dropped.

at very low level, doing bounties worth more than grinding. Say, 2m in 1 ~ 2 weeks.
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post Oct 29 2014, 08:42
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How good is Fatality and Overpower for DW?

Is Swift Strike crap?

If you upgrade a forged weapon and then Amnesia Shard it, are those upgrades lost?

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post Oct 29 2014, 08:46
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Oct 29 2014, 08:33) *

Clear daily Arenas -> Token of Blood -> fight FSM -> Noddies -> sell dani for 30k
Trust me, after months of playing I got 30 Blood, 65 Chaos but only ONE crappy Mag drop, few dozen of Exq, all worth less than 100k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (plus hundreds of.... scraps), so you know which is more reliable source of income. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Edit: oops sorry, fixed

...sell dani? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
What's that?
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post Oct 29 2014, 09:08
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QUOTE(Centifolia @ Oct 29 2014, 15:46) *

...sell dani? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
What's that?

this
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post Oct 29 2014, 09:18
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Oh thanks.
This will help alot
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