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Oct 26 2014, 19:48
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kumosu
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QUOTE(kawaiikun @ Oct 27 2014, 02:38)  Does that work for 1h too?
You mean the ability points distribute? At your level you should have enough for all the general, 1H, armor and most of supportive buffs that you use( skip those useless absorb, arcane... ). So invest what left in deprecating, and maybe dark imperil( they'll be useful very late on) This post has been edited by kumosu: Oct 26 2014, 19:49
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Oct 26 2014, 19:48
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ Oct 26 2014, 19:47)  cool i guess the my Scythe is obsolete
all scythes are obsolete, yes. btw, maces or estocs are better choices for 2H because of stun or penetrated armor effect
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Oct 26 2014, 19:51
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kawaiikun
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 26 2014, 12:38)  some nice pieces every now and then, but no sword chucks. however he has high budget but also strict requirements, i guess he won't be that much of a competitor (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) with some corrections: 1h doesn't use shadow veil, since evade would proc before block and then subtracting hits to counter chance/perma-spirit. also, SP potions are less or more useless once you gain spirit theft (and especially ragnarok spell) How do you use spirit theft with 1h?
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Oct 26 2014, 19:57
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RibbonsCan
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1. Train Dark Proficiency to at least 200 2. Get to level 245~250 3. Enable Spirit Theft option 4. Enable Ripened Soul 5. Cast Ragnarok with Drain and watch your Spirit go up 6. Cry if Ragnarok is resisted or evaded
This post has been edited by RibbonsCan: Oct 26 2014, 20:02
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Oct 26 2014, 19:57
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kumosu
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QUOTE(kawaiikun @ Oct 27 2014, 02:51)  How do you use spirit theft with 1h?
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) As long as you got enough proficiency, you can use ANY spells you want, no matter what style
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Oct 26 2014, 19:58
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Toru Ikeda
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 26 2014, 19:48)  all scythes are obsolete, yes. btw, maces or estocs are better choices for 2H because of stun or penetrated armor effect
i think i picked scythe because it has AOE thingy does estocs have aoe thingy? i know mace only enemy hit but yeah if find estoc in free thread i get it ^^ This post has been edited by Toru Ikeda: Oct 26 2014, 19:59
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Oct 26 2014, 19:59
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(kawaiikun @ Oct 26 2014, 19:51)  How do you use spirit theft with 1h?
you have to slot both 'ripened soul' and 'spirit theft' abilities, then cast the most powerful forbidden spell you have (to maximimze the possibility the proc may happen): eventually, one of the mob may recieve the 'ripened soul' effect, and then you cast drain on it to siphon its SP points. tips: - grinding forbidden prof is quite boring, but ragnarok is absolutely worth (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
- slotting the abilities 'better corruption', 'better disintegrate' or 'better ragnarok' (depending on what you have available) isn't strictly needed but surely useful: more targets mean higher chances to have ripened soul on one of them
- cast the dark spell on mobs with a high percentage of SP bar, but not completely full (they may cast the SP attack and you would have lost the chance to replenish): if you are absolutely in need of SP, you may want to cast silence on the ripened target to be sure the siphon completes
QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ Oct 26 2014, 19:58)  i think i picked scythe because it has AOE thingy does estocs have aoe thingy? i know mace only enemy hit but yeah if find estoc in free thread i get it ^^
yes, all 2H have that AoE thing. actually it's the main point in going 2H: at high profs you can hit up to 7 mobs at once This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 26 2014, 20:03
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Oct 26 2014, 20:03
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Toru Ikeda
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 26 2014, 19:59)  you have to slot both 'ripened soul' and 'spirit theft' abilities, then cast the most powerful forbidden spell you have (to maximimze the possibility the proc may happen): eventually, one of the mob may recieve the 'ripened soul' effect, and then you cast drain on it to siphon its SP points. tips: - grinding forbidden prof is quite boring, but ragnarok is absolutely worth (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
- slotting the abilities 'better corruption', 'better disintegrate' or 'better ragnarok' (depending on what you have available) isn't strictly needed but surely useful: more targets mean higher chances to have ripened soul on one of them
- cast the dark spell on mobs with a high percentage of SP bar, but not completely full (they may cast the SP attack and you would have lost the chance to replenish): if you are absolutely in need of SP, you may want to cast silence on the ripened target to be sure the siphon completes
yes, all 2H have that AoE thing. actually it's the main point in going 2H: at high profs you can hit up to 7 mobs at once that i Like ^^
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Oct 26 2014, 20:04
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kumosu
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QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ Oct 27 2014, 02:58)  i think i picked scythe because it has AOE thingy does estocs have aoe thingy? i know mace only enemy hit but yeah if find estoc in free thread i get it ^^
Right... judging by your questions, you really need to read this: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Advicethis wiki page cover most of the basics, then go back and ask if you don't understand something. Cheer (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 26 2014, 20:05
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arialinnoc
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QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ Oct 27 2014, 00:58)  i think i picked scythe because it has AOE thingy does estocs have aoe thingy? i know mace only enemy hit but yeah if find estoc in free thread i get it ^^
At your level scythe, longsword and katana are work well.
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Oct 26 2014, 20:57
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Toru Ikeda
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Last questionn
how can i know if an items is good?
what name? ^^ in my case as a tanker sword shield guy ^^
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Oct 26 2014, 20:57
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Toru Ikeda
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Last questionn
how can i know if an items is good?
what name? ^^ in my case as a tanker sword shield guy ^^
SUP ESQ FINE etc
This post has been edited by Toru Ikeda: Oct 26 2014, 20:59
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Oct 26 2014, 21:03
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arialinnoc
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QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ Oct 27 2014, 01:57)  Last questionn
how can i know if an items is good?
what name? ^^ in my case as a tanker sword shield guy ^^
SUP ESQ FINE etc
You must read the wiki.Also look for related catagories Equipment Prefixes, Equipment Suffixes. To find out if your item is good or not, look at Equipment Range section.
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Oct 26 2014, 21:06
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ Oct 26 2014, 20:57)  Last questionn
how can i know if an items is good?
what name? ^^ in my case as a tanker sword shield guy ^^
SUP ESQ FINE etc
a good item is something that raise your stats if compared with your old one: you should watch at its peculiar stats rather than its name, but it requires a bit of time to catch the glimpse of it. generally you should stick with the gears with the maximum possible numbers of pabs for their class (ie 3 for weapons and heavy/cloth armors, 2 for staffs and 4 for light) unless they have outstanding values for others. apart from that i don't see any other general rules, it's desiderable that a mag gear would have better stats than an exq one, but it's not always granted. other food for your thoughts i'd say (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Oct 26 2014, 22:03
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derp-z2
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Greetings
A quick question
After reading wiki advice and monster lab section and revisting the page where dan31 answered my previous question on the matter ......
I am now going to build my first monster and only invest in a single monster currently and i want you the masters' suggestion on
a-) which class should i choose
Giant has good end str dex but its all attacks are basic single variant with 3 low weaknesess
Anthropod has 2nd best end str dex but has major attack set and only 2 low weaknesses
but i am unable to decide .
b-) I am confused about how to apply chaos upgrades as well as morale maintainence w.r.t crystals feeding
Please Advice . Thankyou
This post has been edited by derp-z2: Oct 26 2014, 22:03
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Oct 26 2014, 23:05
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ Oct 26 2014, 19:57)  Last questionn
how can i know if an items is good?
what name? ^^ in my case as a tanker sword shield guy ^^
SUP ESQ FINE etc
QUOTE(Dan31 @ Oct 25 2014, 10:16)  Use the Equipment Comparison script. You may need to visit the Equipment page for it to work (or install Inline Equipment Changer). And if you are asking about quality, the order is crude < fair < average < fine (retired) < superior < exquisite (+5% bonus) < magnificent (+10% bonus) < legendary (+20% bonus) < peerless (all stats maxed, +25% bonus). This post has been edited by Dan31: Oct 27 2014, 12:21
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Oct 26 2014, 23:08
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Dan31
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QUOTE(derp-z2 @ Oct 26 2014, 21:03)  Greetings
A quick question
After reading wiki advice and monster lab section and revisting the page where dan31 answered my previous question on the matter ......
I am now going to build my first monster and only invest in a single monster currently and i want you the masters' suggestion on
a-) which class should i choose
Giant has good end str dex but its all attacks are basic single variant with 3 low weaknesess
Anthropod has 2nd best end str dex but has major attack set and only 2 low weaknesses
but i am unable to decide .
b-) I am confused about how to apply chaos upgrades as well as morale maintainence w.r.t crystals feeding
Please Advice . Thankyou
QUOTE(Dan31 @ Oct 11 2014, 23:05)  http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_LabFor a start, I recommend you to choose a monster class with a good END and decent STR/DEX (like Giant, Undead, Dragonkin, Mechanoid...). Never choose 'slashing' as basic attack type, because no armor is particularly vulnerable to slash (light armor's melee weakness is pierce, heavy armor's is crush). Feed your monster with monster food, and raise its PL to at least 25 by feeding it crystals (END is the priority, then STR or DEX depending on how high the base stat is). Never raise INT for a monster who can't use magical attacks (unless you just want to inflate the PL). Once it is at least PL 25, name it and it will appear in battles. Name its skill attack (he won't use it otherwise). Regarding chaos upgrades, the most interesting ones are Scavenging, Fortitude, and Brutality. Don't hesitate to take the first chaos level of everything, as it is cheap (only 1 token) and every upgrade reduces the morale bar drain rate. Remember to feed your monsters regularly (like every day or every 2 days), they starve after 3 days otherwise (starving monsters have a higher morale drain). If you take a break or a vacation, don't worry, after 3 days of not playing HV, your monsters will stop losing morale till you get back. Try to raise your monster to PL 200 (at PL 200, monsters gain a second skill attack and get a reduced morale drain). Don't forget to name the second skill. Make a bunch of PL 200 monsters that way. Monsters will regularly give you gifts. If you are lucky, you may get a binding of slaughter (~160k on the market), a binding of destruction (~80k), a crystallized phazon (~240k), a defense matrix modulator (~40k), a shade fragment (~40k), a repurposed actuator (~30k), a binding of protection (~30k), a binding of the ox (~30k), a binding of the cheetah (~40k), a binding of the owl (~30k)... Don't focus too much on monster lab at your level. Try to not buy crystals from the shop, as it is cheaper to buy them from other players (they usually sell them by batch of thousands though).
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Oct 26 2014, 23:20
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Piscolabis
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 25 2014, 04:12)  Thanks for the advice, just purchased some of those items though I will probably wait a few days on some slots to check if a better option pops up.
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Oct 26 2014, 23:23
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derp-z2
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Thanks for the repost dan31 much appreciated (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) but still .. what would you recommend a-) anthropod or giant and b-) true or false [please correct me] i feed crystals to monster to raise his PL but i go in the manner of str > dex > end > agl and stay away from int and wis and with this when chaos upgrade slot opens per 5 pl level i upgrade those as stated in wiki advice section plus for anthropod i also feed crystal on cold resisteance only since its only its weakness and leave the rest or elec and wind resistence in giant . Also on monster lab skill editor section giant class has only 3 basic skill attacks while anthropod has 1 basic and 2 special skill .... this is the reason why i cannot decide which class to choose as rest of points i have reviewed so i need you suggestion.Thanks again .
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Oct 26 2014, 23:41
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Dan31
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QUOTE(derp-z2 @ Oct 26 2014, 22:23)  Thanks for the repost dan31 much appreciated (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) but still .. what would you recommend a-) anthropod or giant and b-) true or false [please correct me] i feed crystals to monster to raise his PL but i go in the manner of str > dex > end > agl and stay away from int and wis and with this when chaos upgrade slot opens per 5 pl level i upgrade those as stated in wiki advice section plus for anthropod i also feed crystal on cold resisteance only since its only its weakness and leave the rest or elec and wind resistence in giant . Also on monster lab skill editor section giant class has only 3 basic skill attacks while anthropod has 1 basic and 2 special skill .... this is the reason why i cannot decide which class to choose as rest of points i have reviewed so i need you suggestion.Thanks again . Well, giant is overused, so go for arthropod. Focus on piercing attack (which is light armor's weakness). Disregard int/wis and elemental mitigation for now. Raise the highest stats in priority. Get the first chaos upgrade of everything, as it is cheap, then focus mainly on Scavenging, Fortitude, and Brutality.
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