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Pretty much everyone has finished forging staff MDB, and radiant mag/leg/peerless is unobtainable.

Isn't the same applicable to ADB too? Those who can forge 100 level of MDB (Read "High Level Mages") are very much capable of forging 100 level of ADB. So why aren't Binding of Slaughter's price as low as Binding of Destruction? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Lies, you won a peerless in the lottery a few days ago (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

oh, shut up you! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) a peerless i didn't even want, i threw a dozen tickets to go for the golden ticket... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
now, the next question is: should i put it in my collection or not? i don't know where to put it otherwise (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Umm...I'm not playing 1H at all these days (Since I can play Elec mage in IWBTH pretty easily), so my plan for OFC has also gone to hibernate. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

yet if you have a spare million it's a nice way to burn it. less useless than many others, at least (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

But I'm hanging between two choices: Staff of Destruction or Staff of Elementalist, whose MDB is to be forged?? Destruction Staff surely is way more returning in the MDB forging case, but it lacks too much Elemental proficiency, which is vital for high difficulty. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

i'd say the destruction one because if you really need to forge one of those two it would be less expensive to go and raise elemental prof rather than MDB. at least i think

Isn't the same applicable to ADB too? Those who can forge 100 level of MDB (Read "High Level Mages") are very much capable of forging 100 level of ADB. So why aren't Binding of Slaughter's price as low as Binding of Destruction? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

because bindings of slaughter have waaaaay more use than bindings of balance, so still a better market: while BoD can be used only for staffs or radiant phase (which still require extremely expensive phazons though), BoS can be used also for normal weapons, apart from shade/power armors (which however would require way-less-expensive-than-phazons special components)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 22 2014, 21:31

Isn't the same applicable to ADB too? Those who can forge 100 level of MDB (Read "High Level Mages") are very much capable of forging 100 level of ADB. So why aren't Binding of Slaughter's price as low as Binding of Destruction? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Because Slaughter armor, and any armor with adb, is much more obtainable than useable radiant phase.

This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Oct 22 2014, 21:29

now, the next question is: should i put it in my collection or not? i don't know where to put it otherwise (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

It's a account bound gear. There IS no other option if you don't use it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

yet if you have a spare million it's a nice way to burn it. less useless than many others, at least (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thanks but no thanks. I'll rather store some more credits for later use.

i'd say the destruction one because if you really need to forge one of those two it would be less expensive to go and raise elemental prof rather than MDB. at least i think

That's exactly where I'm in a cliffhanger situation. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

because bindings of slaughter have waaaaay more use than bindings of balance, so still a better market: while BoD can be used only for staffs or radiant phase (which still require extremely expensive phazons though), BoS can be used also for normal weapons, apart from shade/power armors (which however would require way-less-expensive-than-phazons special components)

Because Slaughter armor, and any armor with adb, is much more obtainable than useable radiant phase.

Oh, now I see. I totally forgot about the ADB of Armors. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

oh, shut up you! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) a peerless i didn't even want, i threw a dozen tickets to go for the golden ticket... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
now, the next question is: should i put it in my collection or not? i don't know where to put it otherwise (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Well, as tetron said, it's account-bound so it's either collection, bazaar or salvage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Well, as tetron said, it's account-bound so it's either collection, bazaar or salvage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

bazaar is 5.001k. salvaging should be 1HG so 2.5k (btw, did someone ever try to salvage a peerless?)
collection is the best option atm...

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And speaking of which, how profitable is running a WTB? I mean, it seems like a "maybe-someday-something" type thingy, not a "available now" one. How frequently do you get your desirable items? And what is the best strategy to get the items with a price less than the market value?

Random Facts of WTB/WTT

• There is a fair chance you can get graded materials fast and cheap as long as Chirarhythm03 is around.
• No one is buying any leather-related stuff.
• qinkin1979 never changes his buying prices.
• Quick payers: qinkin1979, SinBear, ariosty, frankmelody, Ariahs and many others. Slow payer: cwx, Kyoko Hori.
• For lazy people: Sell all your scrolls/shards/pills/scraps to Kyoko Hori, as most of his buying prices are the highest.
• ST-Ru has been WTBing "xxx Hallowed Raiper of Battlecaster" for ages and he never gets one even the buying price is so high.
• oblivion1989 WTTs his n Precursor Artifacts for 1 old artifact. n is a capricious number, sometimes 2, sometimes 3, today it's 4.
• jenga201 has the best buying prices for all kinds of trophies except Unicorn Horn, which you can sell it at 12.5k to Yakamoz moon.
• Some suggest that Yakamoz moon is not buying, and it's not true. I sent some trophies to him and he paid.
• I sold so many Amnesia Shards to SinBear that he's lowered the buying price from 9.5k to 6k.
• I sold so many Energy Drinks to holy_demon that he's lowered the buying price from 46k to 45k. My next target is crass1.
• I sell my daily noodle to the one with the highest buying price.
• You can hide closed shops, spam threads, and highlight auction threads and certain shop owners by installing a [github.com] script I wrote. [imgur.com] Demo 1, [imgur.com] Demo 2.

This post has been edited by djackallstar: Oct 23 2014, 04:26

Random Facts of WTB/WTT

• There is a fair chance you can get graded materials fast and cheap as long as Chirarhythm03 is around.
• No one is buying any leather-related stuff.
• qinkin1979 never changes his buying prices.
• Quick payers: qinkin1979, SinBear, ariosty, frankmelody, Ariahs and many others. Slow payer: cwx, Kyoko Hori.
• For lazy people: Sell all your scrolls/shards/pills/scraps to Kyoko Hori, as most of his buying prices are the highest.
• ST-Ru has been WTBing "xxx Hallowed Raiper of Battlecaster" for ages and he never gets one even the buying price is so high.
• oblivion1989 WTTs his n Precursor Artifacts for 1 old artifact. n is a capricious number, sometimes 2, sometimes 3, today it's 4.
• jenga201 has the best buying prices for all kinds of trophies except Unicorn Horn, which you can sell it at 12.5k to Yakamoz moon.
• Some suggest that Yakamoz moon is not buying, and it's not true. I sent some trophies to him and he paid.
• I sold so many Amnesia Shards to SinBear that he's lowered the buying price from 9.5k to 6k.
• I sold so many Energy Drinks to holy_demon that he's lowered the buying price from 46k to 45k. My next target is crass1.
• I sell my daily noodle to the one with the highest buying price.
• You can hide closed shops, spam threads, and highlight auction threads and certain shop owners by installing a [github.com] script I wrote. [imgur.com] Demo 1, [imgur.com] Demo 2.

You can be a financial consultant for the HV world since I know you have scripts to do data scraping for WTB and WTS (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

On a side note, thanks for these random/not so random facts. I have always enjoyed reading them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by helno: Oct 23 2014, 04:29

btw, did someone ever try to salvage a peerless?

They will be full retards to do something like that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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What I wanted to know was how good a WTB thread is from that thread creator's perspective.
but nice info. Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You can hide closed shops, spam threads, and highlight auction threads and certain shop owners by installing a [github.com] script I wrote. [imgur.com] Demo 1, [imgur.com] Demo 2.

Your Blacklist-Whitelist script seems to be overdoing the work. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I might miss something important, so I think I'll pass.

But I've been using your Realtime Auction Countdown Timer script since when you first made it. And it's TOTALLY AWESOME! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


BTW, I'm getting the "0 Cooldown Imperil" today. Any other big change that I can except to notice?

This post has been edited by tetron: Oct 23 2014, 05:39

You can be a financial consultant for the HV world since I know you have scripts to do data scraping for WTB and WTS (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
On a side note, thanks for these random/not so random facts. I have always enjoyed reading them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

FTFY

Your Blacklist-Whitelist script seems to be overdoing the work. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I might miss something important, so I think I'll pass.

I guess you mean that the script hides most of the threads in the "The HentaiVerse Chat" forum.
"The HentaiVerse Chat" is a special forum, in that it contains so many spam threads, and that's the main reason I use whitelist in that forum, instead of blacklist.
You can add threads you'd like to see in that forum to the whitelist by editing this:

if(typeof chat_wlist == 'undefined') {
var chat_wlist = [20466, 22234, 29703, 65126]
}

Or if you don't want the whitelist function at all, comment out the following code:

CODE

else if(wlist.length) {
    var lnks = $$('td.row1 > div > span > a[id^="tid-link-"]')
    for(var i=0, len=lnks.length; i<len; i++) {
        if(!/^tid-link-/.test(lnks[i].id)) { continue }
        var tid = parseInt(lnks[i].id.match(/tid-link-(\d+)/)[1])
        if(wlist.indexOf(tid)==-1) {
            try {
                lnks[i].parentNode.parentNode.parentNode.parentNode.style.display = 'none'
            } catch(e) {}
        }
    }
}

This post has been edited by djackallstar: Oct 23 2014, 06:53

FTFY
I guess you mean that the script hides most of the threads in the "The HentaiVerse Chat" forum.
"The HentaiVerse Chat" is a special forum, in that it contains so many spam threads, and that's the main reason I use whitelist in that forum, instead of blacklist.
You can add threads you'd like to see in that forum to the whitelist by editing this:

if(typeof chat_wlist == 'undefined') {
var chat_wlist = [20466, 22234, 29703, 65126]
}

Or if you don't want the whitelist function at all, comment out the following code:

CODE

else if(wlist.length) {
    var lnks = $$('td.row1 > div > span > a[id^="tid-link-"]')
    for(var i=0, len=lnks.length; i<len; i++) {
        if(!/^tid-link-/.test(lnks[i].id)) { continue }
        var tid = parseInt(lnks[i].id.match(/tid-link-(\d+)/)[1])
        if(wlist.indexOf(tid)==-1) {
            try {
                lnks[i].parentNode.parentNode.parentNode.parentNode.style.display = 'none'
            } catch(e) {}
        }
    }
}

Thanks but I don't really need the B/W right now.

What I wanted to know was how good a WTB thread is from that thread creator's perspective.
but nice info. Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It depend on your objective.

• If your target is to obtain a certain material for forging and want to spend less (than the WTS price). WTB thread allow you to collect some materials fast and cheap, if your price is not too low.
• If your target is to earn credit. i.e. buy than resell. You need to wait for a rather long time, as you have to use some aggressive pricing . Otherwise, it would be risky, as price of items can fluctuate much. In most of the case, you can earn more credits by grinding.
  • It would be another story if you can sell the items via place beside HV forum. e.g. Some Chinese forum where most of the people cannot read English well. Their consumption is huge but they cannot really buy thing using WTB thread directly. You can earn half of the price different between WTS and WTB.

This post has been edited by Colman: Oct 23 2014, 08:16

It depend on your objective.

• If your target is to obtain a certain material for forging and want to spend less (than the WTS price). WTB thread allow you to collect some materials fast and cheap, if your price is not too low.
• If your target is to earn credit. i.e. buy than resell. You need to wait for a rather long time, as you have to use some aggressive pricing . Otherwise, it would be risky, as price of items can fluctuate much. In most of the case, you can earn more credits by grinding.
  • It would be another story if you can sell the items via place beside HV forum. e.g. Some Chinese forum where most of the people cannot read English well. Their consumption is huge but they cannot really buy thing using WTB thread directly. You can earn half of the price different between WTS and WTB.

My intention is to obtain materials for forging. But I'm not sure how fast I can collect them using a WTB. That's why I asked. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

My intention is to obtain materials for forging. But I'm not sure how fast I can collect them using a WTB. That's why I asked. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

It varies depending on the items you want to buy. Sometimes you'll get what you want pretty quickly, and other times you'll have to wait a few days even if you offer more than other threads. This has been my experience with Crystallized Phazon, which I imagine can get depleted among the population of sellers that browse WTB. You'll probably have an easier time buying more common materials like High-grade Wood. On the other hand, if you're impatient then there's WTS, but you'll end up paying more.

It varies depending on the items you want to buy. Sometimes you'll get what you want pretty quickly, and other times you'll have to wait a few days even if you offer more than other threads. This has been my experience with Crystallized Phazon, which I imagine can get depleted among the population of sellers that browse WTB. You'll probably have an easier time buying more common materials like High-grade Wood. On the other hand, if you're impatient then there's WTS, but you'll end up paying more.

Thanks for the info.

Guess I need to do some more market research. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

does equipment you have leveled up through the item world become more valuable and therefor worth more scrap?

does equipment you have leveled up through the item world become more valuable and therefor worth more scrap?

Nope, it does not affect.

eh dang oh well

edit: on a related matter does upgrading at the forge make something more valuable for selling not salvage just selling

This post has been edited by tuypo: Oct 23 2014, 11:05

eh dang oh well

edit: on a related matter does upgrading at the forge make something more valuable for selling not salvage just selling

If you mean the bazaar selling price, no.

ok thanks