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Oct 21 2014, 10:01
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UsArmyGuy
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 21 2014, 02:54)  DW is not good in the current patch. However, switching to 1H need time and credits. The easiest thing you can do is to raise WIS.
For DW with power of protection, if you do not play @ PF, it is alright.
PF?
BTW, why do yo use two bleeding weapon? Change one to PA (rapier) is better.
my ax I got in the bazaar, and the shortsword I got lucky in a wts action. the fact that they're both bleeding is coincidence. Change one to PA?
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Oct 21 2014, 10:08
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n125
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 21 2014, 00:54)  DW is not good in the current patch. However, switching to 1H need time and credits. The easiest thing you can do is to raise WIS.
For DW with power of protection, if you do not play @ PF, it is alright. BTW, why do yo use two bleeding weapon? Change one to PA (rapier) is better.
It's kind of sad how DW fell off the rails suddenly. It used to be really popular around this time last year (or maybe it was two years ago?).
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Oct 21 2014, 10:21
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Colman
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UsArmyGuy: PF = PFUDOR, which is the highest difficult atm. I am lazy to type its full (short) name. In PF, monsters have higher chance to cast magic and use special skill. Making the weak point of DW heavy (magic resist/MMI) deadly. For weapon, higher quality does not always better than the poorer one. E.g., I prefer an exq raiper of slaughter on main hand in your case. Even if all stats are lowered by 20%, the damage increase provided by PA is worth it. Last but not least, DW highly depended on critical hit. Can your DW power set having 70- burden? 70+ burden greatly reduce crit chance. You need to know critical hit always infect weapon proc. It mean if your main hand is using rapier, your next attack will likely to give a double damage on tough monster, that having 70+ PMI. If your rapier is on the offhand, you better make the offhand strike chance to 100% (50%+ weapon accuracy). QUOTE(n125 @ Oct 21 2014, 16:08)  It's kind of sad how DW fell off the rails suddenly. It used to be really popular around this time last years (or maybe it was two years ago?).
DW was popular in SG runs only. During the last two patch, people have found out that 1H + power slaughter can do everything. DW have lost its meaning. Not even worth for the alternative set for boss. DW is only for fun now. BTW, People always said mage is heavily nerfed. After I switch to a full mage, and compare with the data two years (? not sure) ago. Only dark and holy maged were nerfed in fact. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) The new resist system is a buff IMO. The multi-target imperil is also a buff. ============================ I still haven't found out how much credit is needed to make 2H work @ PF. This post has been edited by Colman: Oct 21 2014, 10:39
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Oct 21 2014, 10:54
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UsArmyGuy
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 21 2014, 03:21)  UsArmyGuy: PF = PFUDOR, which is the highest difficult atm. I am lazy to type its full (short) name. In PF, monsters have higher chance to cast magic and use special skill. Making the weak point of DW heavy (magic resist/MMI) deadly. ya, I get my ass wooped in PFFor weapon, higher quality does not always better than the poorer one. E.g., I prefer an exq raiper of slaughter on main hand in your case. Even if all stats are lowered by 20%, the damage increase provided by PA is worth it. Last but not least, DW highly depended on critical hit. Can your DW power set having 70- burden? 70+ burden greatly reduce crit chance. Burden is currently sitting at 77, been trying to get ahold of an ethereal axe of slaughter for a while, but they're pricey. You need to know critical hit always infect weapon proc. It mean if your main hand is using rapier, your next attack will likely to give a double damage on tough monster, that having 70+ PMI. If your rapier is on the offhand, you better make the offhand strike chance to 100% (50%+ weapon accuracy). offhand strike chance is sitting at 92%, I picked up the shortsword specially for its 47% attack accuracy.DW was popular in SG runs only. During the last two patch, people have found out that 1H + power slaughter can do everything. DW have lost its meaning. Not even worth for the alternative set for boss. DW is only for fun now. BTW, People always said mage is heavily nerfed. After I switch to a full mage, and compare with the data two years (? not sure) ago. Only dark and holy maged were nerfed in fact. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) The new resist system is a buff IMO. The multi-target imperil is also a buff. ============================ I still haven't found out how much credit is needed to make 2H work @ PF. My thinking has been putting a nice big heavy hitting weapon in my hand, and another weapon with high accuracy so that I get offhand strike almost every time. Keeping both my weapons ethereal means my burden is below 70 increasing my chances at proc critical.
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Oct 21 2014, 11:00
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djackallstar
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Thank both of you so much. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 21 2014, 11:02)  -snip- QUOTE(n125 @ Oct 21 2014, 11:38)  -snip- The only cloth suffixesprefixes worth anything are (not ranked) Radiant, Frugal, Charged, and Mystic. Fixed a minor error for you. This post has been edited by djackallstar: Oct 21 2014, 11:01
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Oct 21 2014, 12:16
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(UsArmyGuy @ Oct 21 2014, 10:54)  My thinking has been putting a nice big heavy hitting weapon in my hand, and another weapon with high accuracy so that I get offhand strike almost every time. Keeping both my weapons ethereal means my burden is below 70 increasing my chances at proc critical.
it isn't wrong, but it isn't so effective either. now that you hit lv200 you should really switch to 1H if you don't want to struggle too much
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Oct 21 2014, 12:38
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TygerTyger
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 21 2014, 20:16)  it isn't wrong, but it isn't so effective either. now that you hit lv200 you should really switch to 1H if you don't want to struggle too much
Nothing is wrong, the effectiveness and usefulness though, can be (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Oct 21 2014, 14:06
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Mantra64
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 21 2014, 10:21)  UsArmyGuy: PF = PFUDOR, which is the highest difficult atm. I am lazy to type its full (short) name. In PF, monsters have higher chance to cast magic and use special skill. Making the weak point of DW heavy (magic resist/MMI) deadly. For weapon, higher quality does not always better than the poorer one. E.g., I prefer an exq raiper of slaughter on main hand in your case. Even if all stats are lowered by 20%, the damage increase provided by PA is worth it. Last but not least, DW highly depended on critical hit. Can your DW power set having 70- burden? 70+ burden greatly reduce crit chance. You need to know critical hit always infect weapon proc. It mean if your main hand is using rapier, your next attack will likely to give a double damage on tough monster, that having 70+ PMI. If your rapier is on the offhand, you better make the offhand strike chance to 100% (50%+ weapon accuracy). DW was popular in SG runs only. During the last two patch, people have found out that 1H + power slaughter can do everything. DW have lost its meaning. Not even worth for the alternative set for boss. DW is only for fun now. BTW, People always said mage is heavily nerfed. After I switch to a full mage, and compare with the data two years (? not sure) ago. Only dark and holy maged were nerfed in fact. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) The new resist system is a buff IMO. The multi-target imperil is also a buff. ============================ I still haven't found out how much credit is needed to make 2H work @ PF. I'm still using DW (club-rapier-shade) for PFUDOR as it clears arenas faster than 1H (rapier-power of slaighter). (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 21 2014, 14:11
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Colman
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Oct 21 2014, 20:06)  I'm still using DW (club-rapier-shade) for PFUDOR as it clears arenas faster than 1H (rapier-power of slaighter). (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Your armors are heavily forged?
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Oct 21 2014, 14:54
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KOR DayDream
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Oct 21 2014, 21:06)  I'm still using DW (club-rapier-shade) for PFUDOR as it clears arenas faster than 1H (rapier-power of slaighter). (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Is it more stable than 1h(in terms of hp)? I think at your level anything will go ok but just wanna check it.
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Oct 21 2014, 15:24
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Al2aNoS
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Oct 21 2014, 15:29
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djackallstar
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I want to learn more about phase armor. Here I summarized the usual market prices of phase armor based on the article tetron wrote: Exquisite Radiant Phase (most popular) An Emax MDB + Emax EDB Exq phase with three PAB (INT, WIS and AGI): ~500k. An Emax MDB + Emax EDB Exq phase with two PAB (INT and WIS): 300k ~ 400k. Exquisite Charged Phase (second most popular) Emax Casting Speed with AGI: 150k ~ 250k. Emax Casting Speed without AGI: 100k ~ 150k. Exquisite Frugal PhaseWith AGI: 200k ~ 300k. Without AGI: 100k ~ 150k. Here come my questions: Q1: Exquisite Mystic Phase???: ???k ~ ???k ???: ???k ~ ???k Q2: Exquisite Prefixless PhaseHere are some of my pieces of phase armor: Exquisite Phase Gloves of Niflheim 2 PABs (INT, WIS), Emax EDB/Evade. Exquisite Phase Gloves of Freyr 2 PABs (INT, WIS), Emax EDB/Evade/Resist/PMI. Exquisite Phase Gloves of Fenrir 2 PABs (WIS, AGI), Emax EDB/Evade/Resist/MMI/AAC, without INT. >_> Exquisite Phase Shoes of Heimdall 2 PABs (INT, WIS), Emax EDB/Evade/Resist/WIS/Magic Accuracy. Is it true that Emax EDB/Evade is nothing special for an Exquisite phase armor? They seem to be spawned quite often. And, if you please, can you give some price estimates of the above pieces? Thanks!
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Oct 21 2014, 15:33
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Mantra64
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Oct 21 2014, 15:56
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 21 2014, 22:29)  I want to learn more about phase armor. -snip-
Exq gears are good start gear for novice mages, but they're not for "actual" mages. They are too common, so its price is not high. Exq phase with even special prefix + exmax EDB + 3PAB cannot easily be priced at 100k+ unless it's popular one like heimdall or freyr. Similar for even mag gear with exmax EDB + 3PAB, either. When you want to know usual market price, please use some latest auction's last bids for reference. Of course that's not perfect but meaningful for understanding tendency. Magnificent Mystic Phase Gloves of Niflheim (EDB exmax) : 70k Exquisite Frugal Phase Gloves of Heimdall (EDB exmax) : 100k Magnificent Mystic Phase Cap of Heimdall (EDB smax) : 100k Legendary Frugal Phase Shoes of Heimdall (EDB smax) : 550k Exquisite Radiant Phase Shoes of Niflheim (EDB exmax) : 100k Exquisite Charged Phase Robe of Freyr (EDB exmax) : No bid Legendary Charged Phase Gloves of Mjolnir (EDB exmax) : 400k Magnificent Charged Phase Cap of Freyr (EDB exmax) : 250k As you can see, special prefix is only worth for mag gear at least with mmax EDB + 3PAB. Magnificent Mystic Phase Pants of Fenrir (EDB mmax) : 500k Magnificent Mystic Phase Gloves of Mjolnir (EDB mmax) : 850k Magnificent Frugal Phase Pants of Mjolnir (EDB mmax) : 1m Legendary Charged Phase Gloves of Mjolnir (EDB mmax) : 2.5m
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Oct 21 2014, 16:23
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Koaen
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 21 2014, 04:21)  ============================ I still haven't found out how much credit is needed to make 2H work @ PF.
Let me know what you find. I don't have a slaughter set, but I expect 2H will still be slower than exq maging.
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Oct 21 2014, 16:27
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Colman
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Oct 21 2014, 22:23)  Let me know what you find. I don't have a slaughter set, but I expect 2H will still be slower than exq maging.
I do not have a good shade set yet. And I do not have good ethereal 2H weapons. For weapon, I have try all three. Only estoc give reasonable speed at PF. For armor, I have try plate, power and leather. Power of protection seems to be the best. However, it is still slow and do not give much protection @ PF. Leather (10~20 forges each) is safer, but the speed........ Full plate set is time to retire. Plate have to mix with power nowadays. P.S. All weapons have 5 forged. P.S.2: I use PFest for test runs. Conclusion: Exq mage of any elemental is better than all of my 2H sets. BTW, I think I will retire until the next patch. No motivation to play HV recently. I play a few arena per days at most in the past few days. This post has been edited by Colman: Oct 21 2014, 16:36
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Oct 21 2014, 17:07
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TygerTyger
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 22 2014, 00:27)  BTW, I think I will retire until the next patch. No motivation to play HV recently. I play a few arena per days at most in the past few days.
Just lend out your equips for a fee, like a car lending company (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 21 2014, 17:15
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Colman
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Oct 21 2014, 23:07)  Just lend out your equips for a fee, like a car lending company (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I do not have good gears. I think yours are better than mine. BTW, I have already lent my best gears to someone. This post has been edited by Colman: Oct 21 2014, 17:16
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Oct 21 2014, 17:31
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Dead-ed
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May i see the battle log of counter attack please?
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Oct 21 2014, 17:54
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djackallstar
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 21 2014, 21:56)  -snip- I feel so enlightened, thanks. (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/FswXARa.gif) This post has been edited by djackallstar: Oct 21 2014, 17:55
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