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Hi,Is 1H better than 2H?
I always see everyone advice to use 1H.
Now I use 2H and have prof at 53 or I should chance into 1H.
And Is the leather combine with 1H or 2H?

At your level, 2H is still better. You'll want to start planning your change over to 1H when you reach lv180 or so, and by the time you're at 200, you should have left 2H behind.

At your level, 2H is still better. You'll want to start planning your change over to 1H when you reach lv180 or so, and by the time you're at 200, you should have left 2H behind.

Just started doing that but...1h = slow......took me 43 mins to clear 45round arena on nintendo...

Just started doing that but...1h = slow......took me 43 mins to clear 45round arena on nintendo...

just because your prof is too low. wait till it'll become 200, you won't use anything other (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

Just started doing that but...1h = slow......took me 43 mins to clear 45round arena on nintendo...

Are you using a rapier? and shield... also if its not ethereal make sure u have it itemworlded to lvl 10 or use void shard on it...it will do a lot more damage, and i mean a lot.

Just started doing that but...1h = slow......took me 43 mins to clear 45round arena on nintendo...

Your proficiency will start to catch up. You should notice a sudden jump in both your survivability and clear speed when you hit prof 100 and spirit stance can be on 80% of the time.

-snip-
back then there is also a "curative" prof and the priestess suffix provides curative prof. after curative prof was scraped, all equipment with curative prof was modified to become supportive prof.

A priestess staff I've ever found in the WTS forum. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
Exquisite Astral Oak Staff of the Priestess Price: 300,000
The shop owner hasn't logged in for quite a long time, though.

This post has been edited by djackallstar: Oct 19 2014, 03:07

So, 1H is combine with power set.Right? And which type of 1H is good?

This post has been edited by Al2aNoS: Oct 19 2014, 04:13

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64 11 Azuregos dropped [2x Crystal of Finesse]
64 10 Shijyou Mizuki dropped [2x Crystal of Corruption]
64 9 You are Victorious!
64 8 Stop kicking the dead horse.
64 7 Your spike shield hits Shijyou Mizuki for 5 points of fire damage.
64 6 You counter Shijyou Mizuki for 2177 points of void damage.
64 5 Shijyou Mizuki has been defeated.
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64 1 You hit Shijyou Mizuki for 1931 void damage.

...yep 1H on IWBTH...1hr later....sigh. Stop kicking the dead horse?!? WTF?!?

A longer test show that v27 is much faster than v37.

How much better is it for you if i may ask?
Since i only tested v28, your responce made me download and try v27. My results are a bit different than yours though.

It ended up being exacly as v28. Around ~2,1 t/s on arena. Tested it with the same scripts as on v37.
While on v37 i get 3,4t/s and lately even 3,55. (channeling waste a lot of time after all)

maybe yours better results are because that version works better with high ping?

...yep 1H on IWBTH...1hr later....sigh. Stop kicking the dead horse?!? WTF?!?

I have been playing 1h since 215 lvl.
IMO It is kind of natural that it is not as fast as other weapon styles. But i did not try other weapons on my lvl, so i may be talking bullshit. But thanks to shield you can safely do higher difficulty than on other styles. If you can handle iwbth on dual or 2hand, then you don't have to limit yourself to 1hand.
But if you don't have proficiency or so, then it is even more natural that it goes slow. I know i didn't like 1h right away. Every 100 proficiency you gain 1 more parry hit.
I have pretty average gear, and finish arena To Kill a God (80rounds) in 12min.
I guess one of benefits of 1h is that you can faceroll. While you might be wasting lots of time on healing and such with other styles.

This post has been edited by exisence: Oct 19 2014, 06:32

How much better is it for you if i may ask?
Since i only tested v28, your responce made me download and try v27. My results are a bit different than yours though.

It ended up being exacly as v28. Around ~2,1 t/s on arena. Tested it with the same scripts as on v37.
While on v37 i get 3,4t/s and lately even 3,55. (channeling waste a lot of time after all)

Let me summarize my finding.
Tested browser:
-1: Iron v27 portable
-2: Iron v37 portable

Scripts: HVstat slim (Colman edition (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) )+ SpellSpam

Always using incognito mode for new test.
All profiles are reset to prevent the setting in one browser affecting the other.


When network is good (ping ~330ms)

1. Short term playing (a single 100- rounds run @ PF)
   I do not notice much different between v27 & v37. In addition, v37 support more function (and less bug) of the user script. So v37 should be better.
2. Long term playing (100+ rounds run @ PF)
   When playing for a while, I notice the speed is declining in v37. After 300 round in PF, a page reload feel like require an 0.05 second extra. The t/s data from the script told me the speed is from ~1.6t/s --> 1.4 t/s in longer runs. On the other hand, v27 always having stable speed.

When network is bad (ping 400ms+)

1. Short term playing (a single 100- rounds run @ PF)
   When ping and network is bad, v37 frequently load the left panel only, while the right panel appear after ~ half second. Making the t/s <1.
   Under the same condition, v27 load the whole page altogether. And the worst speed have a floor @ 1.2t/s. BTW, v27 give more 503. So you better get used to hit the "last page" button on your keyboard/mouse.
   
2. Long term playing (100+ rounds run @ PF)
   v37 is shit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

This post has been edited by Colman: Oct 19 2014, 07:06

???

I see. Btw did you change priority to highest on windows manager?
I never noticed lower speed as time passed. That to be said, i have iron opened for long hours. (even if i don't use it for longer time, it is still opened i guess)

Does long term playing means 1 combat with rounds over 100? Or multiple arena one after another?

This post has been edited by exisence: Oct 19 2014, 07:16

I max out around 3.0~3.6 t/s on Iron version 28. Usually no abnormal flickering of page elements either. The speed remains pretty stable across many rounds as well; I can clear all of the arenas without any decline in performance. The only time I encounter significant slow down is when I reach 1000-2000+ turns in the same round, but that only happens when I'm grinding Staff proficiency back up, so it's not a big deal.

How are you guys testing, anyway? Personally I go

1) Set difficulty to Normal
2) Go to Start Grindfest page and hold down D(efend)
3) Enter Grindfest
4) Keep defending until I die

It gives me a nice sample of turns (~120) without any pauses due to human interaction.

Sorry, wrong thread, please delete this post

This post has been edited by zazaronald: Oct 19 2014, 07:37

What stats should i Be putting my points in as a mage? Im level 226 and I've got
Str: 153
Agi: 184
Dex: 184
End: 237
Int: 265
Wis: 265

Also im getting close to 150 ele prof. What should my ability build look like once i can use the tier 3 ele spells?

I max out around 3.0~3.6 t/s on Iron version 28. Usually no abnormal flickering of page elements either. The speed remains pretty stable across many rounds as well; I can clear all of the arenas without any decline in performance. The only time I encounter significant slow down is when I reach 1000-2000+ turns in the same round, but that only happens when I'm grinding Staff proficiency back up, so it's not a big deal.

How are you guys testing, anyway? Personally I go

1) Set difficulty to Normal
2) Go to Start Grindfest page and hold down D(efend)
3) Enter Grindfest
4) Keep defending until I die

It gives me a nice sample of turns (~120) without any pauses due to human interaction.

I am testing by doing arena. There is human interaction ofc. But i still get 3.33-3.55t/s on average everyday. (but even without t/s counter i am still able to tell if something is slower than usual, you can easly notice if attacks are going smooth or not)
Later i might try doing arena on lower difficulty without channeling alert and without interractions. But it still can't be too low difficulty because if i one hit monsters, t/s will be much lower than usual.

I tried your method and it was much lower than expected. On normal if i use 1h shield i kill enemies so it would take really long time before i die. With staff in hand i die in first round (~30turns?). And speed is much worse than spellspam 2.3-2.5 t/s. I did test on v27 and v37. Results were pretty much the same.
Edit: tried on hell with 1h shield, ended up with ~3.05 for 80+ rounds. Still far behind hover. hm

Still it is indeed weird than on v27 i am unable to reach t/s comparable to v37. With spellspam that is.

This post has been edited by exisence: Oct 19 2014, 08:33

I max out around 3.0~3.6 t/s on Iron version 28. Usually no abnormal flickering of page elements either. The speed remains pretty stable across many rounds as well; I can clear all of the arenas without any decline in performance. The only time I encounter significant slow down is when I reach 1000-2000+ turns in the same round, but that only happens when I'm grinding Staff proficiency back up, so it's not a big deal.

How are you guys testing, anyway? Personally I go

I normally use imperil on the last monster then R. I have tried the defend method and it give higher t/s . I believe it is because defend can be use even the right panel is not fully load .

Btw , is there any reported bug in the latest build of chrome /iron ? Is the cache issue resolved ?I haven't read their forum for a long time .

my old BC rapier and shield for RoB-ing as a mage.

my very first staff drop.

this is how shitty cotton used to be. back then there is no such thing such missing PABs.

back then there is also a "curative" prof and the priestess suffix provides curative prof. after curative prof was scraped, all equipment with curative prof was modified to become supportive prof.
long long time ago mages need to staff melee in order to gain staff prof. and back then staff melee is considered a pure physical attack so the damage and accuracy is based on the physical attack stats. magic missile consumes mp back then as well.

and then magic missile became a 0 mp generic magic attack and mages can gain staff prof by casting magic missile.

Nice Info again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

P.S. - Yes I'm gathering data for something. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Stop kicking the dead horse?!? WTF?!?

You kill the mob you targeted and in any way does you deal damage to dead mob, that message appears.

Morally you shouldn't just harm or dismember dead bodies (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Them troll drops.

So, 1H is combine with power set.Right?

possibly yes. heavy power gives you good mitigations, the PAB you need and a decent amount of bonus ADB (to the point that you can easily overlook 100 damage points on your weapon to focus on others stats like parry). if you have credit issues you may start to build a cheap warding/protection set (possibly with all 3 PAB), and throwing in some slaughters lately, priority is to build a whole power

And which type of 1H is good?

as a starting (and cheap) choice you may go for axe (which deals high damage) or shortsword (which have parry, unlike axe) but as soon as possible you'd better pair a rapier (for PA effect). waki has too little damage to be considered and club is quite useless since shield already stuns enemies

P.S. - Yes I'm gathering data for something. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

user something or do we have another collector on the horizon? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Them troll drops.

M ADB, M ACC. it could have been worse (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 19 2014, 11:47