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Oct 18 2014, 13:31
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 18 2014, 12:58)  WoW! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) [2] BC as in Battlecaster, right? If you guys have no problem sharing, I'd like to hear some more of the past. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) yes, BC as in battlecaster. back then those kind of gears didn't provide mana conseravtion, but MDB, magic accuracy, sometimes INT and WIS. still low to null ITR. it was more hybrid oriented, in a certain way and i'd be interested in hearing some tales from the past too (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Al2aNoS @ Oct 18 2014, 13:09)  Can someone explain me about user script,pls and which user script is good?
userscripts are user-made addons that extend the features of the original HV: you can have a sort of autoplay/autorecasting (the maximum allowed by rules, since a full autoplay isn't possible), round counter, warning for certain events (ie channelling appears, low HP and so on)... as for what is good, it depends on what you want: check here a list of those available. personally i suggest you Equipment Comparison (i'm a seller, so you may find it less useful than me), HVStat Slim and Hoverplay This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 18 2014, 13:37
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Oct 18 2014, 14:01
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Hoheneim
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 18 2014, 12:33)  Press F key on the first screen of Monster Lab to feed monsters and give them happy pills. No waste there.
Nice. So, it goes through the monster list, feeds/pets only the monsters who need it and while it's at it, collects gifts? InstaFave.
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Oct 18 2014, 14:02
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Dead-ed
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The hulk & scary ghost , soul strike, chainmail armor speciality, aura, bronze-prism leveled weapons, etc... Short version explanation please :dry:
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Oct 18 2014, 14:43
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Oct 18 2014, 14:02)  The hulk & scary ghost , soul strike, chainmail armor speciality, aura, bronze-prism leveled weapons, etc... Short version explanation please :dry:
you forgot dragon hide (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) short explanation for metal prefixes here: clickand for soul here
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Oct 18 2014, 14:58
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tetron
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Oct 18 2014, 17:32)  The hulk & scary ghost , soul strike, chainmail armor speciality, aura, bronze-prism leveled weapons, etc... Short version explanation please :dry:
A little details please. You just made me more curious. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 18 2014, 18:13)  you forgot dragon hide (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) short explanation for metal prefixes here: clickand for soul hereN.I.C.E.!
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Oct 18 2014, 15:18
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Al2aNoS
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thx Scremaz but when I use hover I'm very confuse. lol
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Oct 18 2014, 15:58
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Hoheneim
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Oct 18 2014, 14:02)  (...) please :dry:
Dry? I'd rather have a demi-sec...
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Oct 18 2014, 16:35
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 18 2014, 05:43)  you forgot dragon hide (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) short explanation for metal prefixes here: clickand for soul hereThanks. Still curious with the stats comparison though. @tetron , not good at giving details, especially in english. QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 18 2014, 06:58)  Dry? I'd rather have a demi-sec...
I know nothing about wine (lul)
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Oct 18 2014, 17:03
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Alex68785
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Oct 17 2014, 16:37)  i remember when i first started, melee were all going for silk of fleet for the sake of melee accuracy and high evade. nobody bothers with light and heavy armor.
mages were all going for gossamer of prof and not phase.
to fight the RoB bosses, you would need a full set of specific mitigation armor while mages can't use their staff for RoB. they need a high PA BC rapier and BC shield to make use of PA+spell.
i still have my BC rapier and BC shield from back then.
That was actually the time I was playing before I took a long break, heh. Those were the times. Still have the sword and shield too. Didn't mages also get a zero cost spell for staff too that was piercing damage too? Or am I imagining things. This post has been edited by Alex68785: Oct 18 2014, 17:07
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Oct 18 2014, 17:18
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djackallstar
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QUOTE(Alex68785 @ Oct 18 2014, 23:03)  That was actually the time I was playing before I took a long break, heh. Those were the times. Still have the sword and shield too. Didn't mages also get a zero cost spell for staff too that was piercing damage too? Or am I imagining things.
(Totally off-topic but pardon me) Hello Alex, are you willing to show most of your old-time equips beside the ones you currently use? I'm interested in seeing more obsolete gear. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by djackallstar: Oct 18 2014, 17:18
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Oct 18 2014, 17:58
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Hoheneim
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QUOTE(Alex68785 @ Oct 18 2014, 17:03)  Didn't mages also get a zero cost spell for staff too that was piercing damage too? Or am I imagining things.
I don't recall anything like that, but you joined about half a year before I did, so maybe it was in vogue before 2009?
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Oct 18 2014, 18:01
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gc00018
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 18 2014, 15:58)  I don't recall anything like that, but you joined about half a year before I did, so maybe it was in vogue before 2009?
There was one long time ago. And it hass integrated into the common attack of staff now.
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Oct 18 2014, 18:18
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Al2aNoS
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Prof have max value?
And about Evade,Parry and Block. What is the different between them? And Which is best to use ?
This post has been edited by Al2aNoS: Oct 18 2014, 18:24
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Oct 18 2014, 18:44
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Colman
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 17 2014, 14:46)  Just test iron v37 for a while, the speed is more or less the same as v27. I use portable version btw. I will try how well can it be in long run. If the speed are same, I think I will switch to the v37. P.S. so far the slowest script is the anti-virus/anti-spy-ware script. If I turn them off, other scripts do not make much different (excluding HVstat full version). Edit: iron v37, 80 round arena @ PF  iron v27 Both using the same script. Conclusion, the speed is similar in short run. Let's see how will it be when the cache filled up. A longer test show that v27 is much faster than v37.
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Oct 18 2014, 18:48
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(Alex68785 @ Oct 18 2014, 10:03)  Didn't mages also get a zero cost spell for staff too that was piercing damage too? Or am I imagining things. QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 18 2014, 10:58)  I don't recall anything like that, but you joined about half a year before I did, so maybe it was in vogue before 2009?
Magic Missile. It was very low damage and was mainly used for farming staff proficiency and ether theft (which was modified into Ether Tap.) This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Oct 18 2014, 18:48
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Oct 18 2014, 18:50
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Al2aNoS @ Oct 18 2014, 18:18)  Prof have max value?
base profs (the ones you use to unlock spells) are capped at your level. effective (magic) proficiencies may be raised via staffs/cotton, but only effects at that point are related to the efficacy of spells already unlocked via base profs. QUOTE(Al2aNoS @ Oct 18 2014, 18:18)  And about Evade,Parry and Block. What is the different between them? And Which is best to use ?
they are various layers of defense that proc in sequence and less or more you can see them this way: - evade is the chance you move before the attack lands
- if you can't evade, block is the chance that it hits your shield(ing) stops it before it may damage you
- if you can't block, parry is the chance that your weapon may stop the physical attack
- if you can't block, resist the chance that a magical attack won't connect
- in case an attack actually lands on you, the amount of damage taken is decided by mitigations
as for their importance, it depends on the gear you use: if you use 1H, surely block is the top priority, and parry after that. heavy armors don't have many resist, but it can be bypassed via spirit shield. evade is pretty much useless if you use light/shade armors (thus basically DW and maybe 2H) evade and parry are top priority, and second resist. block is useless since 1H + shade isn't very effective if you use cloth armors (in other words, mage build) evade is again a very high priority (since those armors can provide little mitigations), while your gear can provide many resist and little parry. no chance to have block QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 18 2014, 18:48)  Magic Missile. It was very low damage and was mainly used for farming staff proficiency and ether theft (which was modified into Ether Tap.)
wasn't it the basic, genderless, 0MP spell? This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 18 2014, 18:51
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Oct 18 2014, 18:52
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 18 2014, 11:50)  wasn't it the basic, genderless, 0MP spell? Yes. It did piercing damage. This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Oct 18 2014, 18:52
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Oct 18 2014, 19:14
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tetron
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 18 2014, 22:18)  Magic Missile. It was very low damage and was mainly used for farming staff proficiency and ether theft (which was modified into Ether Tap.)
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 18 2014, 22:20)  wasn't it the basic, genderless, 0MP spell?
QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 18 2014, 22:22)  Yes. It did piercing damage.
Nice info.
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Oct 18 2014, 21:05
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hentai_fusion
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 18 2014, 23:18)  (Totally off-topic but pardon me) Hello Alex, are you willing to show most of your old-time equips beside the ones you currently use? I'm interested in seeing more obsolete gear. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) my old BC rapier and shield for RoB-ing as a mage. my very first staff drop. this is how shitty cotton used to be. back then there is no such thing such missing PABs. back then there is also a "curative" prof and the priestess suffix provides curative prof. after curative prof was scraped, all equipment with curative prof was modified to become supportive prof. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 19 2014, 00:50)  wasn't it the basic, genderless, 0MP spell?
long long time ago mages need to staff melee in order to gain staff prof. and back then staff melee is considered a pure physical attack so the damage and accuracy is based on the physical attack stats. magic missile consumes mp back then as well. and then magic missile became a 0 mp generic magic attack and mages can gain staff prof by casting magic missile.
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Oct 18 2014, 21:10
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Oct 18 2014, 21:05)  my old BC rapier and shield for RoB-ing as a mage. my very first staff drop. this is how shitty cotton used to be. back then there is no such thing such missing PABs. quite interesting pieces i'd say. which reminds me, i never understood what was the particularity of -trimmed, -adorned and -tipped
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