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post Oct 17 2014, 20:47
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Is there anyone found a Lmax+(unforged) parry waki of nimble please?
Curious.
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post Oct 17 2014, 23:04
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 17 2014, 09:27) *

No one used to use 1h? why? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
Also, No one used to play Mage???? why?????? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


No skills. No Spirit Stance. No ridiculous Block Chance. Only one Counter-Attack per turn. The only thing you could do was attack enemies -- one by one. Dual-weilding was pretty much in the same boat. Two-handed and Ninten Ichiryu were the only melee fighting styles that allowed you to hit multiple enemies, but the range of Domino Strikes was smaller. Of course the chances for various procs also had lower caps. Elemental Strikes and Void damage didn't exist either. Sexy melee armor also didn't exist; a lot of melees actually ran around in cloth: silk specifically, because it had the Fleet suffix and naturally lower compromise stats.

People not playing mage was a year or so before my time. It was probably back when magic was first implemented and wasn't fully developed.

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post Oct 17 2014, 23:37
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i remember when i first started, melee were all going for silk of fleet for the sake of melee accuracy and high evade. nobody bothers with light and heavy armor.

mages were all going for gossamer of prof and not phase.

to fight the RoB bosses, you would need a full set of specific mitigation armor while mages can't use their staff for RoB. they need a high PA BC rapier and BC shield to make use of PA+spell.

i still have my BC rapier and BC shield from back then.

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post Oct 18 2014, 00:44
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Mages only went Goss cause phase was so damn rare and trolly with pab suffixes
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post Oct 18 2014, 01:56
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Oct 18 2014, 00:44) *

Mages only went Goss cause phase was so damn rare and trolly with pab suffixes


Nah, it's 'cause going Goss was rad.
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post Oct 18 2014, 01:59
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 17 2014, 08:46) *

Just test iron v37 for a while, the speed is more or less the same as v27. I use portable version btw.
I will try how well can it be in long run. If the speed are same, I think I will switch to the v37.

P.S. so far the slowest script is the anti-virus/anti-spy-ware script. If I turn them off, other scripts do not make much different (excluding HVstat full version).

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iron v37, 80 round arena @ PF
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iron v27

Both using the same script.
Conclusion, the speed is similar in short run. Let's see how will it be when the cache filled up.

I used to play Hv on iron 21 portable and imo it was the fastest among all "old" versions, but i didnt touch 37 v. at that time, so it might be fastest nowadays, what i want to say is if you have time -chek 21 and to be frankly i'd like to know results (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 18 2014, 03:26
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is there a script for feeding my all monsters?
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post Oct 18 2014, 03:42
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 17 2014, 16:56) *

Nah, it's 'cause going Goss was rad.


It was pretty cool, since proficiency directly increased damage back then.
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post Oct 18 2014, 03:42
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QUOTE(exisence @ Oct 18 2014, 01:19) *

2. Will it really do that much difference? I have exmax shield forged 3 times (for me it is almost 40%).
I have 6% shielding armor piece and by using it, i didn't notice difference, except lower dmg. (i know that it is not something one can notice just like that)
The worst part is that it is increasing as diminishing returns..

Block is the most important stat for 1H. Get lmax shield and forge its block 50 times if there's supply on WTS or auction and you have enough funds. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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3. I have 4 piece slaughter + warden (with still pretty good adb). My overall abd is low (~5200), unfortunately i don't see much potential in increasing it.
Even if i had 1000 more adb it would still be slow. And i am unable to get 1000 more even if i wanted it very much.

Clear time depends on Attack Damage. You should forge your rapier 30~40+ times, get Daemon Duality perk, and go with 5 power slaughters with good ADB after all. And to be safe with that 5 power slaughters, you should raise your block chance.
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4. I use ethereal rapier iw10, unfortunately it rolled elec strike..
will holy or dark be really visible increase in dmg? because this elec strike sucks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

It does make a big difference on SG arenas at least.
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5. Right, i almost forgot about OFC. It is like 800k in credits? I should aim for it for now.

It's 1.26M assuming 60k per one pony now. Very cheap at the price in comparison with its performance.
IMO it has more worth than even 5~10m for 1H when you make good use of it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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6. Lately i have been grinding forbidden on RE (leaving 3 mobs and spamming corruption + mana potions). I have 81 now.
Soon i will check if it works for me. Still i am not thrilled with idea. : p But what necessary is necessary.

I'd say get 200 Forbidden prof. to get Ragnarok.
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7. well i am starting to be a bit dissapointed with 1h (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) it is good, no doubt.. but i just want to kill them faster. Lately i sometimes even do low difficulty arena just to get rid of stamina faster.
and thanks for your tips, i appreciate it

The greatest advantage of 1H is that it's safe even on PFUDOR because of its block and stun by counter-attack. And to be fast you should raise your AD as far as possible.
To sum up again:
1) Forge your shield's (at least exmax+. mmax is much better and lmax is the best) block chance 20~30 times. The higher, the better.
2) Go 5 power slaughters with good ADB.
3) Forge your rapier's AD and parry 20~30 times. Use holy/dark infusions for SG arena.
4) Get OFC and utilize it.
5) Get Daemon Duality perk.
6) Spirit Theft is an option. It's good for balancing MP and SP, but not a must.
7) One more tip: If you feel lack of mana, try to use featherweights.
8) Enjoy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 18 2014, 03:44
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Oct 18 2014, 10:26) *

is there a script for feeding my all monsters?

Yes, there's BabySitter script. Search it on Script Thread. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 18 2014, 05:34
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QUOTE(exisence @ Oct 18 2014, 00:19) *
I only tested v28. Perhaps v27 is as good as new.
Your t/s is really bad i feel your pain : p
Is is because you are mage.. or bad connection?

All Asia players are suffered from high ping. With SpellSpam™, my t/s for both mage and melee is similar.

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post Oct 18 2014, 06:30
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QUOTE(n125 @ Oct 18 2014, 01:42) *

It was pretty cool, since proficiency directly increased damage back then.


Go back far enough and one of the damage boosters was applied twice
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post Oct 18 2014, 07:05
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Oct 17 2014, 21:30) *

Go back far enough and one of the damage boosters was applied twice


Yeah, I remember that, and the fall-out drama when it was brought to Tenboro's attention. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I can't remember if it was Ratings or EDB that was applied twice, though.
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post Oct 18 2014, 07:23
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QUOTE(n125 @ Oct 18 2014, 00:05) *

Yeah, I remember that, and the fall-out drama when it was brought to Tenboro's attention. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

uh huh, cause it was our fault for not discovering and reporting it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 18 2014, 10:47
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Hi,Is 1H better than 2H?
I always see everyone advice to use 1H.
Now I use 2H and have prof at 53 or I should chance into 1H.
And Is the leather combine with 1H or 2H?
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post Oct 18 2014, 10:53
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 18 2014, 03:44) *

Yes, there's BabySitter script. Search it on Script Thread. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I see there's a lite version. How does it work exactly?

Does it restore morale to all monsters even if they're just a tad below max? I mean, does it waste happy pills?
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post Oct 18 2014, 12:31
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QUOTE(Al2aNoS @ Oct 18 2014, 01:47) *

Hi,Is 1H better than 2H?
I always see everyone advice to use 1H.
Now I use 2H and have prof at 53 or I should chance into 1H.
And Is the leather combine with 1H or 2H?

Lots better. 1H has 2+ layer of defense (parry+block).
For leather choose protection suffix & agile/reinforced prefix but not recommended for 1H, it lacks damage.

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post Oct 18 2014, 12:33
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 18 2014, 17:53) *

I see there's a lite version. How does it work exactly?

Does it restore morale to all monsters even if they're just a tad below max? I mean, does it waste happy pills?

Press F key on the first screen of Monster Lab to feed monsters and give them happy pills.
No waste there.
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post Oct 18 2014, 12:58
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QUOTE(n125 @ Oct 18 2014, 02:34) *

No skills. No Spirit Stance. No ridiculous Block Chance. Only one Counter-Attack per turn. The only thing you could do was attack enemies -- one by one. Dual-weilding was pretty much in the same boat. Two-handed and Ninten Ichiryu were the only melee fighting styles that allowed you to hit multiple enemies, but the range of Domino Strikes was smaller. Of course the chances for various procs also had lower caps. Elemental Strikes and Void damage didn't exist either. Sexy melee armor also didn't exist; a lot of melees actually ran around in cloth: silk specifically, because it had the Fleet suffix and naturally lower compromise stats.

People not playing mage was a year or so before my time. It was probably back when magic was first implemented and wasn't fully developed.

WoW! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Oct 18 2014, 03:07) *

i remember when i first started, melee were all going for silk of fleet for the sake of melee accuracy and high evade. nobody bothers with light and heavy armor.

mages were all going for gossamer of prof and not phase.

to fight the RoB bosses, you would need a full set of specific mitigation armor while mages can't use their staff for RoB. they need a high PA BC rapier and BC shield to make use of PA+spell.

i still have my BC rapier and BC shield from back then.

WoW! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) [2]

BC as in Battlecaster, right?

If you guys have no problem sharing, I'd like to hear some more of the past. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 18 2014, 13:09
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Can someone explain me about user script,pls
and which user script is good?
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