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post Mar 23 2011, 21:44
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ahh.. well i've still got a long way to go in terms of collecting damage sets.. i have like one mjolnir cap (with rather bad stats) and one Surtr staff (likewise terrible stats)... One reason i guess would be that i never realized that LotD actually does increase equip quality in drops - i misread the wiki stating that LotD doesn't increase equip quality from shrine, and took it to mean all drops.. Well that's where all my creds will be going now... heh
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post Mar 23 2011, 22:34
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Yeah, that would be a problem. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Even so, good edb phase is rare, a lot of the stuff I'm using I bought in auctions myself.
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post Mar 24 2011, 01:59
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This is a question for those (mages) who can beat IPU/FSM relatively easily (just a few pots/scrolls), what kind of armor do you use? Full spirit ward/thrice blessed? Fenrir/Heimdall phase? A combo of both?
If it's not a secret, can you share said set (as in, drop the links for the equip)?
I'm apprehensive in wasting 3 blood tokens, just to end up getting screwed over by them.
P.s. I can beat RL now with 3 godlies and 2 gods+avatar scrolls.
I use full demon fiend set and just whack the sucker for 1200-2000 magic dmg while keeping it poisoned/slowed/weakened/bewildered/nerfed. Should I change anything in my strategy for the other 2 gods (other than switching from soul to dark/holy magic, of course)?
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post Mar 24 2011, 02:30
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Mar 23 2011, 23:59) *

This is a question for those (mages) who can beat IPU/FSM relatively easily (just a few pots/scrolls), what kind of armor do you use? Full spirit ward/thrice blessed? Fenrir/Heimdall phase? A combo of both?
The "secret" is to level up, and use a good raw power mage suit. You see, you'll reach a level when you can take their attacks without mitigation gear at all, leaving space for power stuff, and since having more power, they die really fast.

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post Mar 24 2011, 02:33
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Mar 23 2011, 16:59) *

This is a question for those (mages) who can beat IPU/FSM relatively easily (just a few pots/scrolls), what kind of armor do you use? Full spirit ward/thrice blessed? Fenrir/Heimdall phase? A combo of both?
If it's not a secret, can you share said set (as in, drop the links for the equip)?
I'm apprehensive in wasting 3 blood tokens, just to end up getting screwed over by them.
P.s. I can beat RL now with 3 godlies and 2 gods+avatar scrolls.
I use full demon fiend set and just whack the sucker for 1200-2000 magic dmg while keeping it poisoned/slowed/weakened/bewildered/nerfed. Should I change anything in my strategy for the other 2 gods (other than switching from soul to dark/holy magic, of course)?


At my level. Fox gear. Ragnarok/Banish spam. 40-45 turns for IPU, 90 for FSM.

At your level, the most efficient method might be curse-weaver gear with SV+Blind+poison. If you want to do it quickly, drop a Vase+Gum combo before casting poison (make sure you don't waste the remaining turns and spam a damage spell). One set should be more than enough on normal.
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post Mar 24 2011, 03:36
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I posted details of my fight against the IPU here. My level was somewhere in the 185 to 187 area at the time. While I could have defeated it with no items used, it would have been very slow. In fact, I did defeat the FSM with no items, just for the hell of it, and it took 1627 rounds...
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post Mar 24 2011, 03:42
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Mar 24 2011, 02:30) *

The "secret" is to level up, and use a good raw power mage suit. You see, you'll reach a level when you can take their attacks without mitigation gear at all, leaving space for power stuff, and since having more power, they die really fast.

And what level is that exactly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ?
I have already waited to get arcane focus to start my crusade against the gods, should I wait even more?
And another thing, is it better to have good demon fiend gear, or decent fenrir gear for more dmg?
As in, what gives more dmg - dark bonus, or forbidden bonus?

QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Mar 24 2011, 02:33) *

At my level. Fox gear. Ragnarok/Banish spam. 40-45 turns for IPU, 90 for FSM.

At your level, the most efficient method might be curse-weaver gear with SV+Blind+poison. If you want to do it quickly, drop a Vase+Gum combo before casting poison (make sure you don't waste the remaining turns and spam a damage spell). One set should be more than enough on normal.

I see. So the point of curse weaver and vase+gum is to maximize the dmg poison inflicts?
How much deprecating prof bonus would make a significant change? I always thought that more prof = mostly longer durations, but not much increase in the dmg itself.
Also, should I use a CW staff as well? I has a pretty high dep prof bonus staff (11.02 base), but it has only 3 base MDM. Would that be worth the sacrifice? Or should I just use a regular staff with more punch for my damage spells?
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post Mar 24 2011, 03:58
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One addendum question - is it possible to get a 100% dark or holy mitigation set anyway? or does it max out at 90 or 95?
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post Mar 24 2011, 07:31
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QUOTE(Koshinator @ Mar 24 2011, 03:58) *

One addendum question - is it possible to get a 100% dark or holy mitigation set anyway? or does it max out at 90 or 95?


No, That's impossible to get 100% Dark/Holy Mits. This is a my hidden strategy against IPU. Using Combo between flower vase and Poison Spell (180 Turns+) 1082x180 =194,760 Points of Damage.

441 2 Pestilence blasts Invisible Pink Unicorn for 9441 dark damage.
441 1 You cast Pestilence.
440 4 Spreading Poison hits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 1082 damage.
440 3 Invisible Pink Unicorn misses the attack against you.
440 2 Pestilence hits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 4755 dark damage.
440 1 You cast Pestilence.
439 5 The effect Penetrated Armor on Invisible Pink Unicorn has expired.
439 4 Spreading Poison hits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 1082 damage.
439 3 Invisible Pink Unicorn misses the attack against you.
439 2 Pestilence hits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 6239 dark damage.
439 1 You cast Pestilence.
438 6 Spreading Poison hits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 1082 damage.
438 5 Invisible Pink Unicorn misses the attack against you.
438 4 Breached Defense explodes for 816 dark damage
438 3 Invisible Pink Unicorn gains the effect Blunted Attack.
438 2 Pestilence hits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 5726 dark damage.
438 1 You cast Pestilence.
437 2 Invisible Pink Unicorn gains the effect Spreading Poison.
437 1 You cast Poison.

436 3 Regen II restores 29 points of health.
436 2 You gain the effect Child of Gaia.
436 1 You use Infusion of Gaia.
435 6 Regen II restores 187 points of health.
435 5 The effect Bleeding Wound on Invisible Pink Unicorn has expired.
435 4 Bleeding Wound hits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 433 damage.
435 3 Invisible Pink Unicorn misses the attack against you.
435 2 You gain the effect Sleeper Imprint.
435 1 You use Flower Vase.

Read more at https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...st&p=990842

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post Mar 24 2011, 07:45
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Mar 23 2011, 18:42) *

And what level is that exactly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ?
I have already waited to get arcane focus to start my crusade against the gods, should I wait even more?
And another thing, is it better to have good demon fiend gear, or decent fenrir gear for more dmg?
As in, what gives more dmg - dark bonus, or forbidden bonus?


It depends on the quality of your equip, but IIRC, I could pure spam the Gods to death in the early 200s.
EDB > Prof. gear for everything except Soul (which doesn't have EDB gear)
As always, assuming reasonable quality parity.

QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Mar 23 2011, 18:42) *

I see. So the point of curse weaver and vase+gum is to maximize the dmg poison inflicts?
How much deprecating prof bonus would make a significant change? I always thought that more prof = mostly longer durations, but not much increase in the dmg itself.
Also, should I use a CW staff as well? I has a pretty high dep prof bonus staff (11.02 base), but it has only 3 base MDM. Would that be worth the sacrifice? Or should I just use a regular staff with more punch for my damage spells?


With that setup, poison will be like 75%+ of your damage anyway, so I'd go with a curse-weaver staff. Not to mention that powering up your blind will make your life a lot easier.

This is how Hito/4everlost/me/whoever else did the Gods on IWBTH.

Ideally this should be your order of usage. Cast buffs/debuffs. Cast a few damage spells if you don't want to waste the mana regen from the gum. Proc ET. Proc channeling, but DON'T use it. Use Vase. Use Gum. Cast Channeled poison. Spam damage spell until Vase runs out. Play it out as normal. Be careful to not accidentally overwrite your powered up poison. You could bring a second set to be safe I guess (and just save it or use it to spam more damage spells near the end). With a high powered Blind + SV + Haste + Slow + Weaken, you should be able to keep up with it's damage. IMO at least. I can't be 100% sure obviously.

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post Mar 24 2011, 08:12
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Mar 24 2011, 07:45) *
Ideally this should be your order of usage. Cast buffs/debuffs. Cast a few damage spells if you don't want to waste the mana regen from the gum. Proc ET. Proc channeling, but DON'T use it. Use Vase. Use Gum. Cast Channeled poison. Spam damage spell until Vase runs out. Play it out as normal. Be careful to not accidentally overwrite your powered up poison. You could bring a second set to be safe I guess (and just save it or use it to spam more damage spells near the end). With a high powered Blind + SV + Haste + Slow + Weaken, you should be able to keep up with it's damage. IMO at least. I can't be 100% sure obviously.


Lol, never even occured to me to use channeled poison xD
Thanks for the input guys, I'm off to find a good CW set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 24 2011, 10:53
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How many levels of innate arcana do you need until you don't have to manually level supportive prof?
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post Mar 24 2011, 11:51
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I know its kinda annoying asking all these questions but.. Do you guys know how chance to get the channeling effect works when casting on ET'ed Monsters? :| Is there a formula for it?
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post Mar 24 2011, 12:00
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QUOTE(Namespoofer @ Mar 24 2011, 11:51) *

I know its kinda annoying asking all these questions but.. Do you guys know how chance to get the channeling effect works when casting on ET'ed Monsters? :| Is there a formula for it?

The same chance as it is to proc CM. (check your inventory stats for the specific percentage)

QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ Mar 24 2011, 10:53) *

How many levels of innate arcana do you need until you don't have to manually level supportive prof?

I haven't leveled supportive since ~110lvl
My IA is at lvl 2 and my current supportive is at 146.02
Also, keep in mind that I jumped ~10-12 levels in a couple of days, if I had gone through them by takin my time, it would probably be ~160.
So, 2 I'd say is enough if you don't lvl like crazy. Though I am saving up for lvl 3 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Oh and, keep IA active all the time, otherwise there's no point in it at all (I know it's obvious, but just thought I'd throw that in there in case you're having one of those fuck-what-I'm-reading-get-to-the-point moments).

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post Mar 24 2011, 12:12
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speaking of IAs, at what level should I start getting one??
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post Mar 24 2011, 12:33
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QUOTE(zhen0n @ Mar 24 2011, 10:12) *

speaking of IAs, at what level should I start getting one??
IA is dispensable, especially for mages, but they help raise you supportive prof without any effort, and they help melee characters. There isn't any particular level where you "should" get it, it's just a upgrade like the hath auras, or any better equipment.
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post Mar 24 2011, 15:41
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Which, if you are like me and can't run H@H and don't have a Paypal Account set up to donate to the Catgirls (I am currently unemployed, otherwise I would donate money). It would take forever to get the necessary Hath to get IA since at such a low level amassing credits is very difficult making having enough credits to buy Hath in the exchange nigh impossible.
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post Mar 24 2011, 16:17
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QUOTE(Supermario223 @ Mar 24 2011, 21:41) *

Which, if you are like me and can't run H@H and don't have a Paypal Account set up to donate to the Catgirls (I am currently unemployed, otherwise I would donate money). It would take forever to get the necessary Hath to get IA since at such a low level amassing credits is very difficult making having enough credits to buy Hath in the exchange nigh impossible.


same here, so I check the bazaar from time to time and fish out the valuable ones and put it to auction. you'll be surprised at what people throw there sometimes
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post Mar 24 2011, 16:28
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Edit: nvm I took a gamble and released the wrong one! Looks like I'll be waiting ten more levels to release the right one but I did release the one that gives me weaken so I guess it isn't all bad.

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post Mar 24 2011, 17:22
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well I guess it's about time I 'ask the experts' about my stats. Would appreciate if you guys could give me some tips. As you can see from my prof and against popular thought, I went pure melee. I think i shot like 5 magic missiles throughout my whole HV career. lol. But melee's getting tiring and boring with mainly just button mashing. I used to use heavy armor which didn't work out quite well and recently changed to cloth and am working on raising my profs. Do you guys think going pure melee is still feasible? To be honest, I have NEVER tried maging before and would prob have to spend quite a bit getting the necessary equips.

I pretty much clear arena until longest journey easily on normal mode. Main equip is rapier/shield (yes i should get a better weapon). I can clear a lvl 250+ magnificent weapon in IW till lv 40-50 on hard mode with a 2H weapon which is prob pathetic. Not sure if i am doing anything wrong so any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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