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post Oct 17 2014, 05:20
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QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Oct 17 2014, 09:15) *

I've got two meh-tier rapiers picked up for dirt-cheap, and I'm planning to IWmax one of them (yes, I'm aware I probably shouldn't, shame on me). Which one should I choose?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d6f0a2a0e5
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4e5a3fcd79

I will go for the dark one.

TBH, I normally bazaar this kinds of weapons.

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post Oct 17 2014, 05:35
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QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Oct 17 2014, 09:15) *

I've got two meh-tier rapiers picked up for dirt-cheap, and I'm planning to IWmax one of them (yes, I'm aware I probably shouldn't, shame on me). Which one should I choose?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d6f0a2a0e5
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4e5a3fcd79

It all depends on your needs. The dark one for SG; The cold one + flame spike shield for normal play.

I'd choose the dark one if I were you, coz you probably won't use either of the rapiers when you reach higher level, and a Lv.10 Exq demonic slaughter rapier can sell at a higher price than an arctic counterpart.

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post Oct 17 2014, 05:41
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 17 2014, 12:08) *

(ppl will buy coz so cheap than normal price)


no, people won't buy, cos they have no need for them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Oct 17 2014, 07:44
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 16 2014, 19:51) *

Thanks. I'll try it out.
Hmm. So you're saying that Iron 32+ is faster than Iron 28? Also, does Iron 32+ have the option to install userscripts directly?

Well.. I am using v37. Comparing to v28 it was 1.33 t/s difference..
Ofcourse you can install userscripts direcly, it is chrome afterall. It is actually advised to do so. As i mentioned tempermonkey/greasemonkey slow you down.



Question:
1. As 1H.. Why people treat Agility = Wisdom?
I do not understand that. For me agility seems pretty useless stat. It only gives 0.5 physical mitigation and evade which is from start reduced by heavy gear.
On the other hand wisdom gives 0.5 magical mitigation and mana, mana regeneration.

I also do not undestand this:
Every point above the player's level increases attack speed by (10%/level)
The attack speed increases from AGI is capped at 10%.

Does it mean that if i have 304 lvl.. at 305 agility i get full bonus 10% or how does it work.. Does it even count agility from items? Anyway it still suck for heavy

I treat stats this way:
endurance = strenght = dexterity > wisdom > agility > intelligence
339 = 339 = 338 > 327 > 315 > 280

Is it good?


2. How do you do A Dance with Dragons?
- I just did it on hell. And it was really worrysome. That is.. potions.
Till around round 80 i did not use any potion, i run out of spirit pretty fast but since killing still wasn't that slow i continued without spirit and with focus.
Then i started using potions. At 150 i was out of spirit potions. (i had 5)
Perhaps it is better to do it with dual? But then spirit consumption will still be huge. Maybe i should not use spirit shield..
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post Oct 17 2014, 07:56
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Well, thanks anyways, I was looking to build a cheap weapon to save money for a good one.
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post Oct 17 2014, 08:42
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QUOTE(exisence @ Oct 17 2014, 14:44) *

Question:
1. As 1H.. Why people treat Agility = Wisdom?
I do not understand that. For me agility seems pretty useless stat. It only gives 0.5 physical mitigation and evade which is from start reduced by heavy gear.
On the other hand wisdom gives 0.5 magical mitigation and mana, mana regeneration.

Yes, WIS > AGI for 1H Heavy in general.
But I just equally distribute all stats 1:1:1:1:1:1 since I'm too lazy and could switch into mage setting whenever I want without changing stats.
Especially for high level melee, a careful stat distribution is almost meaningless, though. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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I also do not undestand this:
Every point above the player's level increases attack speed by (10%/level)
The attack speed increases from AGI is capped at 10%.

Does it mean that if i have 304 lvl.. at 305 agility i get full bonus 10% or how does it work.. Does it even count agility from items? Anyway it still suck for heavy

(AGI - level) / level * 0.1 is attack speed bonus from AGI without burden, capped 10%.
For example if you have 500 AGI at 350 level with 0 burden you will get
(500 - 350) / 350 * 0.1 = 4.3% attack speed bonus.

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I treat stats this way:
endurance = strenght = dexterity > wisdom > agility > intelligence
339 = 339 = 338 > 327 > 315 > 280

Is it good?

Not bad. Again, I think 1:1:1:1:1:1 is also not bad actually for high level users in this game.
INT for melee and STR for mage can be an exception, though.

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2. How do you do A Dance with Dragons?
- I just did it on hell. And it was really worrysome. That is.. potions.
Till around round 80 i did not use any potion, i run out of spirit pretty fast but since killing still wasn't that slow i continued without spirit and with focus.
Then i started using potions. At 150 i was out of spirit potions. (i had 5)
Perhaps it is better to do it with dual? But then spirit consumption will still be huge. Maybe i should not use spirit shield..

1. Level up to 350+ at least to easily beat it as a melee. As 1H, my friend cleared DwD PFUDOR for the first time at around 340-mid level without using Focus.
2. If you're 1H get best shield and forge its block 20~25 times.
3. Get best 5 power slaughter armors you can get.
4. Use holy/dark rapier (or/with) holy/dark infusion.
5. Get OFC and use it after SG shows up.
6. Use Spirit Theft which helps you balancing MP and SP.

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post Oct 17 2014, 08:46
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QUOTE(exisence @ Oct 17 2014, 13:44) *

Well.. I am using v37. Comparing to v28 it was 1.33 t/s difference..
Ofcourse you can install userscripts direcly, it is chrome afterall. It is actually advised to do so. As i mentioned tempermonkey/greasemonkey slow you down.

Just test iron v37 for a while, the speed is more or less the same as v27. I use portable version btw.
I will try how well can it be in long run. If the speed are same, I think I will switch to the v37.

P.S. so far the slowest script is the anti-virus/anti-spy-ware script. If I turn them off, other scripts do not make much different (excluding HVstat full version).

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iron v37, 80 round arena @ PF
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Thank you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Both using the same script.
Conclusion, the speed is similar in short run. Let's see how will it be when the cache filled up.

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post Oct 17 2014, 08:47
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Oct 17 2014, 11:41) *

no, people won't buy, cos they have no need for them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Player A gets an HGL and sells it at 1500.
Player B is gonna buy that HGL from player A, coz he thinks the HGL will sell at 1550.
Player C is gonna buy that HGL from player B, coz he thinks the HGL will sell at 1600.
Player D is gonna buy that HGL from player C, coz he thinks the HGL will sell at 1650.
Player E is gonna buy that HGL from player D, coz he thinks the HGL will sell at 1700.
...
...
...

This can keep going until no one is buying that HGL, or that HGL is bought by someone really needs it.
So if you are player A, you are pretty safe. (unless player B does not exist (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))

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post Oct 17 2014, 09:18
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 17 2014, 14:47) *

Player A gets an HGL and sells it at 1500.
Player B is gonna buy that HGL from player A, coz he thinks the HGL will sell at 1550.
Player C is gonna buy that HGL from player B, coz he thinks the HGL will sell at 1600.
Player D is gonna buy that HGL from player C, coz he thinks the HGL will sell at 1650.
Player E is gonna buy that HGL from player D, coz he thinks the HGL will sell at 1700.
...
...
...

This can keep going until no one is buying that HGL, or that HGL is bought by someone really needs it.
So if you are player A, you are pretty safe. (unless player B does not exist (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))

When someone bazaar this kind of things everyday, there is no buyer willing to buy that except it sell for less than the bazaar price.

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post Oct 17 2014, 09:19
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Quick question:

What's the difference between the Parry Chance and Counter-Parry stats?
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post Oct 17 2014, 09:22
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Oct 16 2014, 22:41) *

no, people won't buy, cos they have no need for them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Until they do. It always happens, because tenboro has an incessant need to "balance" everything. No one used to use 1H, add Force shields and now it's the latest fad. LG was completely dead for several years, and now it's not. If you go far enough back, there was even a time when everyone used heavy and no one used mage.

So basically, you shouldn't be surprised if leather gets a major buff in the near future.
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post Oct 17 2014, 09:39
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 17 2014, 18:22) *

Until they do. It always happens, because tenboro has an incessant need to "balance" everything. No one used to use 1H, add Force shields and now it's the latest fad. LG was completely dead for several years, and now it's not. If you go far enough back, there was even a time when everyone used heavy and no one used mage.

So basically, you shouldn't be surprised if leather gets a major buff in the near future.


That's long-term investment. We're talking about short-term profit

And really, unless you're making like 300% profit on that purchase. It's not worth the waiting, the high risk, and the opportunity cost of wasting credits on stuffs you don't need.

Also, 1H and mage are still good, yet HGM,HGC,HGW price are all falling. I doubt even buffing light would give HGL any significant price boost

QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 17 2014, 17:47) *

Player A gets an HGL and sells it at 1500.
Player B is gonna buy that HGL from player A, coz he thinks the HGL will sell at 1550.
Player C is gonna buy that HGL from player B, coz he thinks the HGL will sell at 1600.
Player D is gonna buy that HGL from player C, coz he thinks the HGL will sell at 1650.
Player E is gonna buy that HGL from player D, coz he thinks the HGL will sell at 1700.
...
...
...

This can keep going until no one is buying that HGL, or that HGL is bought by someone really needs it.
So if you are player A, you are pretty safe. (unless player B does not exist (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))


marginal profit of B is 50/1550=3.2% way too small to make sense, not to mention HGL has very low liquidity due to low demand.

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post Oct 17 2014, 09:39
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QUOTE(gynew @ Oct 17 2014, 16:19) *

Quick question:

What's the difference between the Parry Chance and Counter-Parry stats?

Parry chance: Your parry chance against monster's attack.
Counter-Parry: Your chance to ignore monster's parry against your attack.
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post Oct 17 2014, 10:39
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 17 2014, 03:08) *

Sharing some lists of shops I've compiled. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(Shops that seldom restock the corresponding items are removed from the lists.)

Defense Matrix Modulator (<45k)
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=89609 35k

please list only shops which refills regularly. nothing against mantra, but i check it from time to time (not so much, but a 10k discount means you can have the combo matrix + binding at the same price of the lone matrix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) and i'm pretty sure i didn't see any matrix there since he put the 35k price tag (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 17 2014, 03:08) *

High-Grade Metals (<3k)
There are quite a few of shops selling HGM at 3k (Scremaz and treesloth, to name but a few), but you can get a cheaper price
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Keep doing this until you feel the amount of HGC is enough, and finally WTT HGC for HGM.
I don't recommend this method, though, you know how bothersome it is.
However it's fun to imagine the reaction from gc, coz the amount of HGC keeps increasing everytime you send to him. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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1) g wouldn't do any reaction, simply because these are chips for him
2) both your methods (especially 2nd) suppose that g has unlimited supplies/needs of HG, but it isn't. take whatever comes until it lasts, without waiting too much.

QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Oct 17 2014, 03:15) *

I've got two meh-tier rapiers picked up for dirt-cheap, and I'm planning to IWmax one of them (yes, I'm aware I probably shouldn't, shame on me). Which one should I choose?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d6f0a2a0e5
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4e5a3fcd79

i'd go for the dark one, regardless of its elemental strike. it has a way better PA chance and END may serve you in some way if you go 1H, surely better than STR. both of them have low parry though, so don't expect you would sell them for high in case you will do it
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post Oct 17 2014, 10:54
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 17 2014, 03:08) *

Binding of the Cheetah (<45k)
I believe there is/was a shop selling it at 39k, but I can't find it any more.

That would be mine (you bought one a few days ago ^^). But since I can't quite restock fast it's always a one time thing ^^

And yes, I've just become a shameless advertiser (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 17 2014, 11:54
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Parry chance: Your parry chance against monster's attack.
Counter-Parry: Your chance to ignore monster's parry against your attack.


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post Oct 17 2014, 12:15
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please list only shops which refills regularly. nothing against mantra, but i check it from time to time (not so much, but a 10k discount means you can have the combo matrix + binding at the same price of the lone matrix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) and i'm pretty sure i didn't see any matrix there since he put the 35k price tag (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Next time, before you say something like this, please check his thread by yourself carefully.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3559395
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3564541
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3567526
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3571870
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3579053
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You might not against mantra, but it's your fault to not to pay enough attention to what he's written in his post.
You know 35k for a DMM is very cheap, everyone interested knows that, too, so why don't you check the thread at the right time? "From time to time" huh?
And I don't think you read my post carefully, as I already stated I've removed some non-restocking shops from the lists.
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 17 2014, 16:39) *

1) g wouldn't do any reaction, simply because these are chips for him
2) both your methods (especially 2nd) suppose that g has unlimited supplies/needs of HG, but it isn't. take whatever comes until it lasts, without waiting too much.

That's your words, not mine. I didn't make any assumption.
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post Oct 17 2014, 13:36
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Next time, before you say something like this, please check his thread by yourself carefully.

alright, my fault here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

good to know that i'm wrong though...
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post Oct 17 2014, 13:52
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 17 2014, 05:15) *

Next time, before you say something like this, please check his thread by yourself carefully.

Next time, before you ask here, please check the wiki by yourself carefully.
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post Oct 17 2014, 14:09
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Next time, before you ask here, please check the wiki by yourself carefully.

Why not read the posts above yours before flaming someone? Wiki isn't the problem here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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