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Mar 18 2011, 17:03
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Namespoofer
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Oh if I can interject, how do you guys seem to keep your proficiencies so balanced? Do you grind them like I do? Cause it's a snail pace to do it :|
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Mar 18 2011, 17:29
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pbVeteran
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High level flimsy item world on normal [or cake doesnt matter] and just hold buttons for attacking [weapon skills, armor skil] Wasting all your mana on cheapest of the kind spell You cant die for a really long while [even though now you get always 1 damage from hit] I am not into that grinding stuff so my prof are not near caping as other hardcore HV players (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE(hu318443 @ Mar 18 2011, 15:55)  "Any" interference causes a reduction in damage to Offensive Magic
from EHWiki
I know 1% per 1 interference point aplicated to both Base and MdM separately so I am around 94% spell damage now [or 88% now I do not remember if MdM adds up or its just % of original amount] This post has been edited by pbVeteran: Mar 18 2011, 17:33
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Mar 18 2011, 17:30
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Nyvil
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QUOTE(Namespoofer @ Mar 18 2011, 23:03)  Oh if I can interject, how do you guys seem to keep your proficiencies so balanced? Do you grind them like I do? Cause it's a snail pace to do it :|
I think IW do the most of trick here...High difficulties with bad quality items works for me. This post has been edited by Nyvil: Mar 18 2011, 17:31
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Mar 18 2011, 18:14
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Blackhane
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So yea, since it kinda got lost: Must be doing something wrong... for every arena fight, I dish out 2 average healing potions, 2 average mana potions, and most of the time, they totally waste me (lvl 42, they deal ~ 60 damage per hit on normal when I'm on heavy armor). I've also tried going silk of the fleet, but that only gives me ~ 20% evade, which isn't even nearly enough to keep me alive. Just now, first round of lvl 20 arena, I'm on 301/708 HP after 5 rounds... And on Grindfest, after ~15 rounds, I run out of mana and HP if I don't use potions X_X [ s7.directupload.net] Equip [ s7.directupload.net] Stats What exactly should I change about my character? Should I try maging? BEcause grindfest currently nets me close to no money
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Mar 18 2011, 20:24
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hyl
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QUOTE(pbVeteran @ Mar 18 2011, 16:29)  High level flimsy item world on normal [or cake doesnt matter] and just hold buttons for attacking [weapon skills, armor skil] Wasting all your mana on cheapest of the kind spell You cant die for a really long while [even though now you get always 1 damage from hit] I am not into that grinding stuff so my prof are not near caping as other hardcore HV players (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I know 1% per 1 interference point aplicated to both Base and MdM separately so I am around 94% spell damage now [or 88% now I do not remember if MdM adds up or its just % of original amount] I am sure you are losing much more mdm for the 20+ interference than just 6% >_>
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Mar 18 2011, 20:33
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Ballistic9
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I ran into that problem when I was level 20-ish. Melee just wasn't working out; slow round progress, high damage intake and constant misses made me rage. I figured even with good evade gear I'd still get hit constantly for more damage than I could heal, so I decided long-run it wasn't worth it.
Switched to mage @ Lv35, but my gear sucked so I wasn't able to play @ normal difficulty for a while (did Arena and Grindfest on cake). Eventually levelled to the point where I was able to do them on normal again and now on hard without a problem.
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Mar 18 2011, 20:41
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pbVeteran
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QUOTE(hyl @ Mar 18 2011, 19:24)  I am sure you are losing much more mdm for the 20+ interference than just 6% >_>
You are sure but I just calculated it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) With 0% interference I would be at 120%
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Mar 18 2011, 20:45
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(Namespoofer @ Mar 18 2011, 15:03)  Oh if I can interject, how do you guys seem to keep your proficiencies so balanced? Do you grind them like I do? Cause it's a snail pace to do it :|
I didn't mess with them for a long time. Elemental, holy, dark/soul will all go up fast just with normal use. The others are slower unless you set out to keep them up. About every 5 levels I'll take a day and add +10 to each Deprecating, Supportive, Curative.
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Mar 18 2011, 21:21
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(pbVeteran @ Mar 18 2011, 18:41)  You are sure but I just calculated it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) With 0% interference I would be at 120% I think you're messing up, the dmg reduction from interference is calculated separably, from the other dmg bouns (mdm,rating+EDB,prof) which mean 20 points of interference will always reduce your spell dmg by 20%. Edit: Of course you can calc what mdm bonus is being reduced by interference, but it's a pointless calculation. Assuming you have 120 mdm, and 20 interference (1+1.20)(1-0.2)=1.76 1.76-1=76% mdm (this means you "lost" 44% mdm) This post has been edited by cmdct: Mar 18 2011, 23:56
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Mar 18 2011, 21:27
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hyl
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QUOTE(pbVeteran @ Mar 18 2011, 19:41)  You are sure but I just calculated it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) With 0% interference I would be at 120% edit ninja'd about the damage. but i think he was calculating his staff and other mdm gear in it. Spellcasters should kill monsters by using as little spells as possible, thus taking less damage in the long run. Even if you don't have phase, still atleast try to find decent gosamer or even silk if you can't get gosamer or phase. Your defence is hardly good enough to survive large mobs and you are ruining your damage by having interference and using a fox staff instead of a destruction or focus staff. Not to mention , your high burden will get you more hit often than you want. If you want to stand a chance against bosses, i suggest getting depreciating spells like weaken and bewilder and more haste. More levels of haste means a longer duration and that means less mp wasted on recasting. About your spells like others have said, don't get that many tier1 elemental spells and rather focus on 2 elements and their tier 2 versions. Also you don't need holy spells, unless you are going to fight the legendaries, with the exception of konota who is weak to wind. This post has been edited by hyl: Mar 18 2011, 21:31
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Mar 18 2011, 22:02
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KamuiSeph
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Quick question, is freyr equip useful? I keep getting decent freyr gear and wondering if I should auction it or keep it.
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Mar 18 2011, 23:38
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grumpymal
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Not really. The only reason I use my Freyr cap is because it's got pre-nerf Evade.
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Mar 19 2011, 01:23
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE Quick question, is freyr equip useful? I'm in the market for a good robe and cap. (The robed that dropped for you would qualify as horrible). It's fun messing around with phase, but there's tons of uber resistant monsters (to wind) out there though.
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Mar 19 2011, 01:24
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yaminotsubasa
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is there way to level up faster
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Mar 19 2011, 02:03
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(yaminotsubasa @ Mar 18 2011, 23:24)  is there way to level up faster
Train ability boost, donate § for auras ( PM Tenboro), post at least 15 posts in the spamhaus each day for exp bonus, compete for the toplists (without being stupid), and finally get buy decent stuff, become a mage eventually, and play, play a lot.
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Mar 19 2011, 04:06
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Shizo Karen
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If I beat a manbearpig in IW on hard, can I expect to beat it in the ring of blood on normal?
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Mar 19 2011, 04:13
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Shizo Karen @ Mar 19 2011, 02:06)  If I beat a manbearpig in IW on hard, can I expect to beat it in the ring of blood on normal?
Yes and no, in fact that doesn't mean anything. Quality of item, and which round was, have a bigger role than hard setting.
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Mar 19 2011, 04:47
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Shizo Karen
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Superior and somewhere between 20 and 25
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Mar 19 2011, 13:44
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Shizo Karen @ Mar 19 2011, 02:47)  Superior and somewhere between 20 and 25
Then I can't say. First he was hitting only with 70-75% power, then in superior they still hit soft comparably to GrindFest (round 50 GF = Arena = RoB), on the other side you had to take down 2x HP.
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Mar 19 2011, 15:18
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pbVeteran
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And what two elements to use as now we get tons of custom monster so two elements are not as good as they were ?
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