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post Mar 6 2011, 02:56
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Use normal dual weilding formula (waki 1.5 accuracy, 1/2 attack, 1.5 parry...) after applying proficiency bonus (2-hand+dual weilding).

Also, @kamui, what metallic auras do you have?
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post Mar 6 2011, 03:50
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Just wanted to thank everyone who was part of my journey at the end of Feb for this game. I've recently swapped to mage, and it is good times. I'm sure I burn through more mana than most people right now, but that's the nature of the beast.

My staff proficiency is mighty low, is there any specific place to get that remedied? I'm guessing a Cake giant level item world kind of thing?

When gearing, should I look for Fleet equips, or Elementalist equips? I know that Ebony Staff of the Elementalist is probably the best I could work at for a casty stick, but armor itself?

As I get higher in level which stats should I start to trickle less and less points in to? I know it's smart to keep them about even with your level, and I know you want a focus on Int and Wis while keeping End high, but can someone give me a priority tree real quick?
Int>Wis>End>Agi>Dex>Str (as an example, I'm not saying this is what it's going to look like)


Quick word of advice: before you decide to tackle your arenas, make sure you have the difficulty set where you want it to be, and try not to wonder why you're being smashed for hundreds of points of damage when you're on Battletoads mode.

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post Mar 6 2011, 04:29
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I remember reading somewhere in earlier posts that INT and WIS should be priority, and keep AGI and END at about 3/4 of the current xp costs of INT/WIS, and STR and DEX about 1/4 the cost of INT/WIS.

Or was that 1/2 for AGI&END instead?
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post Mar 6 2011, 04:35
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Mar 5 2011, 22:52) *

want to ask question about niten ichiryuu style
how can i calculate the HIT proc / Duration / Damage of my 2 weapons?
(Main hand + Off hand)รท 2 ?

QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Mar 6 2011, 00:56) *

Use normal dual weilding formula (waki 1.5 accuracy, 1/2 attack, 1.5 parry...) after applying proficiency bonus (2-hand+dual weilding).

Apart from not answering the question, this is mostly wrong. There's no modifier to the off hand attack accuracy bonus, Niten doesn't give you an off hand parry bonus, and the off hand damage is reduced to 25% (increasing to 50% with some value of DW prof that I can't be bothered to work out).

Correct answer:
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 30 2011, 10:13) *

- Whenever the mainhand and offhand weapons have the same proc, they are now combined in the following way:
-- The proc chance is combined multiplicatively, as (1 - ((1 - mainhand_chance) * (1 - offhand_chance)))
-- The duration and damage are the weighted average of the duration and damage on the proc of the two weapons, with a 0.75 weight on the main hand and 0.25 on the off hand.
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post Mar 6 2011, 05:31
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Apart from not answering the question, this is mostly wrong.

Right on both counts, but you could be a little nicer pointing that out next time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 6 2011, 09:07
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thank you both for the answer
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post Mar 6 2011, 11:30
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Mar 6 2011, 02:56) *

Also, @kamui, what metallic auras do you have?

I assume you are asking to find out how I get so much exp?
All 3 spectral auras, no metallic auras. lvl100 at adept learner and all Exp bonus abilities full.
That's pretty much 177% increased exp from auras, 100% from training and 126% from bonus tanks.
403% total exp increase. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

I get around 4500~ exp for a full round of 9 monsters (no mini-bosses) in IW on hard, in an exquisite shortsword. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
That's about ~900k - 1.1mil exp per one IW clear. I have spelunker at lvl 2, so I get about 10-12mil exp per day.

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post Mar 6 2011, 11:54
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Sheesh Kamui, I'm hoping this Credit Farming is really what it's cracked up to be on mage spells and whatnot, because my rate's been pitiful since Day 1. I can't fathom how you afforded 100 levels of Adept Learner without some heavy equipment selling.
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post Mar 6 2011, 12:00
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QUOTE(PommyN64 @ Mar 6 2011, 11:54) *

Sheesh Kamui, I'm hoping this Credit Farming is really what it's cracked up to be on mage spells and whatnot, because my rate's been pitiful since Day 1. I can't fathom how you afforded 100 levels of Adept Learner without some heavy equipment selling.

Oh non non non, mon frรจre, I sold ARTIFACTS! Granted, they went for 10k a pop back then. And people bought them like crazy. I could sell 50 artifacts without even having to start a freaking WTS thread. Used to be able to PM a lvl 150+ guy and tell 'em I has 50 artifacts for sale, and half a mil creds would fly my way in a flash xD

Now, you have freaking 22 artifacts in the BAZAAR, and no one's even bothering to pick them up. ~_~' oh the sadness...
I imagine I made about ~6mil creds from artifacts.

P.s. PommyN64, I just imbued you with 69 Karma... I feel so dirty >_>

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post Mar 6 2011, 12:09
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Mar 6 2011, 05:00) *

Now, you have freaking 22 artifacts in the BAZAAR, and no one's even bothering to pick them up. ~_~' oh the sadness...
I imagine I made about ~6mil creds from artifacts.


Ugh, sheesh, I'd ask you to share the wealth, but from what I hear the training costs get absolutely fuggin' ridiculous at the upper reaches, so you very likely need it.

And I'm smothering that fresh karma all over my newly-mage body, you dirty dirty cheater. It's so scandalous you can get banned for even tagging it on the galleries.
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post Mar 6 2011, 12:11
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QUOTE(PommyN64 @ Mar 6 2011, 12:09) *

Ugh, sheesh, I'd ask you to share the wealth, but from what I hear the training costs get absolutely fuggin' ridiculous at the upper reaches, so you very likely need it.

And I'm smothering that fresh karma all over my newly-mage body, you dirty dirty cheater. It's so scandalous you can get banned for even tagging it on the galleries.


I'd share the wealth, but I have bids on auctions xD can't really spend too many creds, or I'll end up unable to pay for my bids (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 6 2011, 12:42
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I need some experts' help to save my character in HV!!

I was fooling around in Hv and I think I had somehow ruined my character...

STR 55
DEX 55
AGI 50
END 50
INT 35
WIS 50

For a warrior, I had some hard time to bash mob's head. What is the suggested stat priority for a warrior with decent output?

Although 2H weapon helps, I can only survive long battle and later arenas with 1H+S. Is this normal? Or I'm doomed?

P.S. You are looking at a lv5X noob right now.

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post Mar 6 2011, 13:59
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QUOTE(Nyvil @ Mar 6 2011, 12:42) *

I need some experts' help to save my character in HV!!

I was fooling around in Hv and I think I had somehow ruined my character...

STR 55
DEX 55
AGI 50
END 50
INT 35
WIS 50

For a warrior, I had some hard time to bash mob's head. What is the suggested stat priority for a warrior with decent output?

Although 2H weapon helps, I can only survive long battle and later arenas with 1H+S. Is this normal? Or I'm doomed?

P.S. You are looking at a lv5X noob right now.

To help us understand better, I suggest you look at this:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...mp;#entry979652
This is the last time I asked for feedback on my stats.
It includes my stat pic, ability pic, my equips (with links), equip pic, aura pic and arena pic (optional).

If you want great feedback, provide us with as much detail as possible.
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post Mar 6 2011, 15:44
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Mar 6 2011, 02:00) *
Now, you have freaking 22 artifacts in the BAZAAR, and no one's even bothering to pick them up. ~_~' oh the sadness...
I imagine I made about ~6mil creds from artifacts.


Holy shit, no wonder I haven't been able to sell my artifacts for over month now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I knew their value took a bit of a dip since 0.5.0, but not to that extent. Seems like uploading porn and running Hentai@Home to accumulate Hath to sell is the best way for lower levels to obtain large sums of credits now....
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post Mar 6 2011, 17:58
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QUOTE(n125 @ Mar 6 2011, 15:44) *

Holy shit, no wonder I haven't been able to sell my artifacts for over month now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I knew their value took a bit of a dip since 0.5.0, but not to that extent. Seems like uploading porn and running Hentai@Home to accumulate Hath to sell is the best way for lower levels to obtain large sums of credits now....

Yeah, you are lucky if you can sell it for 8k now.

True that, but one must find a source of porn that isn't already uploaded, which is fucking hard >_>'
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post Mar 7 2011, 08:42
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If I want to level quickly, what spells and equipment should I prioritize to get? I'm currently doing max fire and wind, and I have some bad elemental equipment. My staff is an oak staff of earth-walker.

It seems ok, but it takes 3 or 4 aoe castings to kill everything. I'm currently trying to level off an exquisite item in item world.
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post Mar 7 2011, 12:16
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QUOTE(mlkio @ Mar 7 2011, 08:42) *

If I want to level quickly, what spells and equipment should I prioritize to get? I'm currently doing max fire and wind, and I have some bad elemental equipment. My staff is an oak staff of earth-walker.

It seems ok, but it takes 3 or 4 aoe castings to kill everything. I'm currently trying to level off an exquisite item in item world.

This is my current maging equip:
Superior Ebony Staff of Surtr
Fine Gossamer Cap of The Elementalist
Average Gossamer Robe of The Elementalist
Fine Gossamer Gloves of The Elementalist
Fair Gossamer Pants of The Elementalist
Average Gossamer Shoes of The Elementalist

You want to get something similar. Notice that the staff increases elemental prof as well as fire damage.
And notice that the armor has high physical absorption and evasion. That helps you survive longer when you don't one shot everything.

Having fire and wind is ok I think, though most people go for fire/elec, now that there are user created monsters, it's really hard to say which elemental spells are the most effective.

Also, remember that dmg is not only dependent on equip, but also on proficiencies. Since your proficiency for elemental magic caps at your current level, having ~40 prof isn't that great. That's why most people switch to maging after lvl 100, when your proficiency is at least 100 and you have third tier spells.
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post Mar 7 2011, 13:06
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Do chances of proficiency gains scale according to +exp?
Because if I think about it, if you have a massive +% to exp gain wouldn't your proficiencies suffer?
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post Mar 7 2011, 13:34
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QUOTE(Namespoofer @ Mar 7 2011, 13:06) *

Do chances of proficiency gains scale according to +exp?
Because if I think about it, if you have a massive +% to exp gain wouldn't your proficiencies suffer?


I don't know for sure, but from experience - no.
By leveling up really fast, your prof's do indeed suffer quite a bit.
You have to compensate for that by grinding your profs at the end of the day. But I think it's a small loss. Higher lvl's = more arenas = better equip stats = more credits = more spells = etc.
Losing some proficiency is worth it in my opinion.
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post Mar 7 2011, 23:12
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Hello all.

I have been a mage from Lv.1. I am not sure if i played the character correctly, so i would like to ask some advices from you guys.

My statistics
[img846.imageshack.us] Stat Pic

1. Right now my staff prof. is at about 80% of my level. Should i spend time to max it out?
2. I plan to keep my magic prof. at about 90% of my level, so that i can keep my training for prof. easier.

My abilities
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3. Right now i have not planned to improve on experience bonus yet. I think i should do so after Lv.100 when the experience required for leveling becomes sufficiently large. Also, I am not hurried to do so.
4. Should i keep all 4 types of magic?

My equipments
Fine redwood staff of focus
Average silk cap of the cheetah
Superior gossamer robe of the fox
Fine gossamer gloves of the fox
Average gossamer pants of the owl
Average silk shoes of the cheetah

5. I have been keeping my silk equipments as i cannot find some good gossamer equipments yet.
6. I have noticed that many people are using full elementalist equipments. I am not sure if using equipments with high INT/WIS bonus is a bad idea.

My general statistics look like this
[img541.imageshack.us] General Stat

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7. I have green, blue, violet, indigo aura working right now.
8. I have spent hath on auto-cast slot (for haste)

Some general questions
9. Which is better for training exp at IW? High challenge level + lower-tier equipment or otherwise?
10. I have been training my prof. at arena. Is that a good idea?
11. Right now i am using the following strategy: use 2nd-teir AOE first to wipe out most of the monsters, then use 1st-tier AOE to kill the monsters left. Will i benefit if i change to elementalist equipments?
12. I find some difficulty dealing with legendary monsters right now. Using banish can only hurt about 1% of total HP of the legends, so i need about 80 to 100 turns to grind it out. Right now i am not going to attempt ring of blood challenges again until i get SOL.But seriously, is that because the legends are really so hard to kill or is that my character's problem? Should i find some special equipments when facing the legends?

Thank you very much for reading my post.
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