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May 28 2014, 15:08
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 28 2014, 21:03)  (character level) Funny, I thought it is called Henjutsu Level. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 28 2014, 15:09
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May 28 2014, 15:39
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kserox
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QUOTE(Aegnor Alkarin @ May 28 2014, 18:51)  Also, this drop:http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php?eid=46577879&key=69f429de91. Salvage for HG or Free Shop?
Just sell to the market. This post has been edited by kserox: May 28 2014, 15:39
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May 28 2014, 16:36
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kos9494
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QUOTE(Aegnor Alkarin @ May 28 2014, 20:51)  At this point which is more important to max, Silence or Spirit Shield?
Spirit Shield becomes "quite" efficient after Lv.4 (Absorbing damage that exceeds 25% of health) but at your level, Lv.3 is good too if you have enough spare SP. Though seriously in my experience, when my SS was Lv.3 it rarely proc since most attacks dealt less than 30% of my HP. Silence is good but not as good as "Mind Control" where your Sleep is enhanced to fully demobilize up to 3 targets at a time. It's mostly used for DW / 1H since Mage/Niten/2H deals AoE type attack which can easily wake up Sleep'd targets. However, it is viable if you cast it on targets near the edge and use T2 spells on those that aren't Sleep'd like my Mage colleague your Mage senpai. Better than Lv.3 Spirit Shield IMO. Get both Silence and Mind Control = profit. Weaken is a must for squishy Mage for cheap & fast debuff. It should become your top priority as a Mage nonetheless so max it. Heck, even I needed it doing PFUDOR Arenas/RE playing DW. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I only speak from my pre-Maxed Spirit Shield experience so it might not apply to you. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) This post has been edited by kos9494: May 28 2014, 16:38
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May 28 2014, 16:53
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Aegnor Alkarin
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 28 2014, 15:36) 
Weaken is a must for squishy Mage for cheap & fast debuff.
You speak like my Weaken hasn't been maxed since forever (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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May 28 2014, 17:06
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 28 2014, 22:36)  Spirit Shield becomes "quite" efficient after Lv.4 (Absorbing damage that exceeds 25% of health) but at your level, Lv.3 is good too if you have enough spare SP. Though seriously in my experience, when my SS was Lv.3 it rarely proc since most attacks dealt less than 30% of my HP. Highest SS certainly counts if you do PFUDOR RE's regularly as a mage, except that I never counted how often I've proc the shield, so I can't really tell. QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 28 2014, 22:36)  Silence is good but not as good as "Mind Control" where your Sleep is enhanced to fully demobilize up to 3 targets at a time. It's mostly used for DW / 1H since Mage/Niten/2H deals AoE type attack which can easily wake up Sleep'd targets. However, it is viable if you cast it on targets near the edge and use T2 spells on those that aren't Sleep'd like my Mage colleague your Mage senpai. Better than Lv.3 Spirit Shield IMO. Get both Silence and Mind Control = profit. Hmm, iirc Niten's domino strike only affects up to 5 enemies at once, Mage's T1 spells only affects up to 5 enemies and T2 spells affects up to 7, and only the mages at a high Henjutsu Level (Level 400+) could hit all enemies with their T3 spells, and even then they can freely reassign the extension ability if they wish to have a narrower range. QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 28 2014, 22:36)  Weaken is a must for squishy Mage for cheap & fast debuff. It should become your top priority as a Mage nonetheless so max it. Heck, even I needed it doing PFUDOR Arenas/RE playing DW. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Weaken goes without saying, for obvious reasons stated by my Melee colleague. As for silence, their main appeal is that you can cast them much later when their MP/SP gauges is building up instead of right off the bat like Sleep/Weaken, so they're better for attrition battles where you only have so many Mana potions to spare. QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 28 2014, 22:36)  I only speak from my pre-Maxed Spirit Shield experience so it might not apply to you. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Mages are definitely squishy enough for Level 3 SS to count... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(Aegnor Alkarin @ May 28 2014, 22:53)  You speak like my Weaken hasn't been maxed since forever (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Hmm, you'll want both the best and fastest Weaken... so yep, yet another AP sink. And I needs 120 Ability Boost. For the elemental mage setup alone.This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 28 2014, 17:11
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May 28 2014, 17:10
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Kazetenshi
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So here are my current stats. Is my damage way too low for my level? I decided to focus on my defensive stats and I think my physical damage took too much of a hit for the tradeoff to be worth it. It doesn't help that I've been using this shitty rapier and haven't had the chance to upgrade it http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=76ec744df4It took me 25 minutes to do the first SG on Battletoads and it'll probably take me an eternity to do it on IWBTH or PF. Not to mention the second and third SG arenas...
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May 28 2014, 17:16
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(Kazetenshi @ May 29 2014, 00:10)  So here are my current stats. Is my damage way too low for my level? I decided to focus on my defensive stats and I think my physical damage took too much of a hit for the tradeoff to be worth it. It doesn't help that I've been using this shitty rapier and haven't had the chance to upgrade it http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=76ec744df4It took me 25 minutes to do the first SG on Battletoads and it'll probably take me an eternity to do it on IWBTH or PF. Not to mention the second and third SG arenas... Don't worry, you're much more powerful than when I was at your level.
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May 28 2014, 17:39
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Seira Isogai
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+65 interference + 25 burden What should i improve ? This post has been edited by Seira Isogai: May 28 2014, 17:41
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May 28 2014, 17:40
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(Kazetenshi @ May 28 2014, 17:10)  So here are my current stats. Is my damage way too low for my level? I decided to focus on my defensive stats and I think my physical damage took too much of a hit for the tradeoff to be worth it. It doesn't help that I've been using this shitty rapier and haven't had the chance to upgrade it http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=76ec744df4It took me 25 minutes to do the first SG on Battletoads and it'll probably take me an eternity to do it on IWBTH or PF. Not to mention the second and third SG arenas... Such high defense Stats. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) imo, since you've got a MMax shield & already start forging it, you can sacrifice some defense for damage. ie slaughter gear instead of warding/protection gear. though, your current stats are probably better than most people around your lvl. seriously, forged MMax shield, almost 70% MMI, 65%PMI. lastly, for faster SG, you should use something that does Void+Holy+Dark strike. for non-SG, your current one rapier is fine. QUOTE(Seira Isogai @ May 28 2014, 17:39)  -snip- +65 interference + 25 burden
What should i improve ?
imo, more leveled Stats. ie Even Str/Dex/Agi/End, Wis+Int can be 50pts lower. also, if you haven't got max pack rat get max packrat. if you don't hv full shade set, get a full Exq+ shade set with 3-4PABs. if you still hv credits left, it is useful to lower your burden a bit more. the temporary/cheap way is use featherweight shards (300-400c/each) on your weapon. Axe+Rapier is a good combo, but Axe are Heavy & Ethereal Axe are expensive. also, Axe can't stun, so maybe a Club will be safer? or maybe use a Shortsword for now for your Mainhand for more parry? This post has been edited by malkatmp: May 28 2014, 17:57
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May 28 2014, 17:55
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Hahhaa
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QUOTE(Kazetenshi @ May 29 2014, 00:10)  So here are my current stats. Is my damage way too low for my level? I decided to focus on my defensive stats and I think my physical damage took too much of a hit for the tradeoff to be worth it. It doesn't help that I've been using this shitty rapier and haven't had the chance to upgrade it http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=76ec744df4It took me 25 minutes to do the first SG on Battletoads and it'll probably take me an eternity to do it on IWBTH or PF. Not to mention the second and third SG arenas... I feels your pains. If your rapier is shitty, mine is not much better. +My deprecating prof is still single digit. I totally give up SGs for now. No problem for other Arena @ PF thought. That block. The so called 50% sweet spot (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Do you still need Full Cure / Cure?
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May 28 2014, 17:56
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Kazetenshi
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 28 2014, 08:40)  Such high defense Stats. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) imo, since you've got a MMax shield & already start forging it, you can sacrifice some defense for damage. ie slaughter gear instead of warding/protection gear. though, your current stats are probably better than most people around your lvl. seriously, forged MMax shield, almost 70% MMI, 65%PMI. lastly, for faster SG, you should use something that does Void+Holy+Dark strike. for non-SG, your current one rapier is fine. So I'm guessing an ethereal rapier with double infusion or hallowed/demonic, if only they weren't so pricey (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'd love to swap a few armor pieces for slaughter, but sadly they're just waaay too expensive for me atm. I think I got my whole set, excluding the shield for ~600k credits and that's equivalent to like maybe one or two decent slaughter pieces if I go by the auction prices (or maybe it's not even enough to buy one piece lol).
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May 28 2014, 17:57
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LostLogia4
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May 28 2014, 17:58
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LostLogia4
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*doublepost*
This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 28 2014, 18:10
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May 28 2014, 17:58
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LostLogia4
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*triplepost*
This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 28 2014, 18:03
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May 28 2014, 17:59
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LostLogia4
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*quadruple post for want to upload an image*
This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 28 2014, 18:10
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May 28 2014, 18:00
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Kazetenshi
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Edit: I just quoted myself what (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) QUOTE(Hahhaa @ May 28 2014, 08:55)  I feels your pains. If your rapier is shitty, mine is not much better. +My deprecating prof is still single digit. I totally give up SGs for now. No problem for other Arena @ PF thought. That block. The so called 50% sweet spot (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Do you still need Full Cure / Cure? Yep since I mostly play on lazy mode where I just hover my mouse around barely looking at the screen until I get a popup. Usually my regen/protect runs out without me looking so yeah (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) . I rarely use full cure though since SoL doesn't proc that often (I set the warning threshold to 40% hp) And imo your rapier is 100x better than mine cause you have so much more dex and parry. This post has been edited by Kazetenshi: May 28 2014, 18:04
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May 28 2014, 18:06
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simrock87
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QUOTE(Kazetenshi @ May 28 2014, 17:10)  So here are my current stats. Is my damage way too low for my level? I decided to focus on my defensive stats and I think my physical damage took too much of a hit for the tradeoff to be worth it. It doesn't help that I've been using this shitty rapier and haven't had the chance to upgrade it http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=76ec744df4It took me 25 minutes to do the first SG on Battletoads and it'll probably take me an eternity to do it on IWBTH or PF. Not to mention the second and third SG arenas... Your rapier is better than mine (why does everyone have better gears then me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)) Jokes aside, i guess you're running full defensive power. If i'm guessing right, you could try exchanging 1 or 2 of the least good[sic] pieces for mag/exq power slaugher and see how that feels. You could also try investing a couple more points into dex, since it raises adb and parry(win/win). Next, you may want to steer towards the spirit theft path for the longer arenas ( courtesy of malkatmp), so MP pots can restore everything (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif).
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May 28 2014, 18:08
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(Kazetenshi @ May 29 2014, 01:10)  So here are my current stats. Is my damage way too low for my level? I decided to focus on my defensive stats and I think my physical damage took too much of a hit for the tradeoff to be worth it. It doesn't help that I've been using this shitty rapier and haven't had the chance to upgrade it http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=76ec744df4It took me 25 minutes to do the first SG on Battletoads and it'll probably take me an eternity to do it on IWBTH or PF. Not to mention the second and third SG arenas... If you want to do PFUDOR SG, transition into power protection/slaughter. I was able to do the first 2 SG even with non-forged exq rapier + power slaughter, with no focus/drain. (well that was ~3 months ago, custom monsters might not be as strong as tbey are now). 1H light is very inefficient at clearing SG with its low damage output and bad OC. Ideally you want to gain OC faster than you use it through 1H skill so you can chain in OFC, evade will be a burden in that regard This post has been edited by holy_demon: May 28 2014, 18:15
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May 28 2014, 18:08
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(Kazetenshi @ May 28 2014, 17:56)  So I'm guessing an ethereal rapier with double infusion or hallowed/demonic, if only they weren't so pricey (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'd love to swap a few armor pieces for slaughter, but sadly they're just waaay too expensive for me atm. I think I got my whole set, excluding the shield for ~600k credits and that's equivalent to like maybe one or two decent slaughter pieces if I go by the auction prices (or maybe it's not even enough to buy one piece lol). imo, a "cheaper/easier" option is get a hallowed/demonic rapier, Maxed it and use a hallowed/demonic infusion. that ~10burden isn't really worth that crazy ethereal price. also, you can always go for those 2PAB, Emax-Mmax ADB slaughter gear. ps. my power slaughter gear is ~100-300k ea. not really the best stuff, but they'll do just fine. though, i'm probably need to upgrade my stuff. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 28 2014, 17:57)  imo, unless you're using the old "shield" plate gear, i won't use the current shielding plate stuff. just use whatever power protection/balance/warding/slaugther thing you've. hell, i would even use plate protection stuff than shielding plates, but that's just me. though, if you need anything i can lend you some gauntlets/leggings that i'm not using.
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May 28 2014, 18:11
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Hahhaa
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 29 2014, 00:59)  Not sure about gears. But your internet must be really fuckup. 1st time i see see quadruple post (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Btw, 1H need fast and stable internet because it need to hits mobster several times to kill. Hits per second really matters. That why my stamina is nearly full on slow days like today. Slow internet = no motivation to play 1H.
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