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May 28 2014, 03:16
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 27 2014, 14:31)  Not really, PFUDOR IW of Peerless/Legendary item are significantly harder that its IWBTH counterpart. I'm talking about 200-300 difference in the number of cure
As a mage I tend to stick to IWBTH hentai for IW because I hate playing pfudor and getting to round 98/99 and getting caught out with a smack down and losing all the effort up to that point. There is also the speed difference.
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May 28 2014, 03:37
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something
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is forging PABs on a weapon/armor worth it or is that just for rich people?
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May 28 2014, 03:40
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LostLogia4
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Well, personally I would be staying off IWing stuffs at PFUDOR difficulty unless: 1. You have a near-maxed out Scavenger, LotD AND Archaeologist. 2. You're either a 1H user on a very good ping and at least 45% block chance, or a mage that's at least half as powerful as Dani. Dunno about the first but kos9494 fits the second criteria, minus the ping rate I guess. Me on the other hand didn't cuz I would need mag-grade phases and Level 400 for holy mage, Level 450 for elemental mage, bare minimum. (no joke!) My two cents for mages, is that do PFUDOR IWs if, and ONLY IF you fulfills both of these criteria. It's very frustrating to chew more powerful monsters than you could bite for no good reason. QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 28 2014, 07:22)  Stupid slow connection AT HOME made me a double-thread too. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Stupid slow connection AT HOME after the quota's been exceeded made me unable to hold a weekly auction. That one sure cuts off my potential major source of income for HV credits, aside from Arena runs.
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May 28 2014, 03:41
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(something @ May 27 2014, 15:37)  is forging PABs on a weapon/armor worth it or is that just for rich people?
To an extent very worthwhile depending on the quality of your gear. Some stats depending on your strat are more important than others, so most people only prioritise the important ones first. For mages people generally prioritise wisdom -> intelligence --------------------------------------> agility Wisdom slightly higher than intelligence then if you have the cash agility.
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May 28 2014, 04:15
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Drakewyn
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QUOTE(Aegnor Alkarin @ May 27 2014, 17:59)  I mostly do my REs on the phone, usually while taking a toilet break (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(Caia @ May 27 2014, 18:40)  Productivity just went out the window. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Don't you mean "down the drain"?
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May 28 2014, 04:43
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Caia
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ May 28 2014, 10:15)  Don't you mean "down the drain"?
Why does it matter? Same meaning. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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May 28 2014, 05:19
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EsotericSatire
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I was interested in the DW battlecaster mage idea but the cost is too big. It would make it possible to get high parry, high resist, high evade but at the cost of around 30% reduction in my mage score even with high edb weapons and the loss of 5-10% dmg from potency.
You would need really specific gear to be even remotely worthwhile, but then there are better options unless you just wanted to be different.
Legendary edb rapier of battlecaster and Legendary edb waki of battlecaster with max edb, max parry and max mana conservation.
Legendary radiant phase gear and legendary/peerless frugal proficiency cotton boots.
Its like a not that good but different build possible for a rich bored player lol.
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May 28 2014, 05:36
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ May 28 2014, 11:19)  I was interested in the DW battlecaster mage idea but the cost is too big. It would make it possible to get high parry, high resist, high evade but at the cost of around 30% reduction in my mage score even with high edb weapons and the loss of 5-10% dmg from potency. Yeah, I have a silly concept of dualwielding a full set of hallowed armaments (a pair of holy rapiers, full sets of heimdall phases) except that EDBs didn't work on Holy Strike... I remember that someone had pitched the idea of wands as well for tat one. Btw, anyone can show me a fully forged elemental/ethereal weapon with two infusions, preferably with HV's default font? I'll send you two infusions for the trouble. This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 28 2014, 05:39
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May 28 2014, 06:07
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Jingasa
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I started playing the minigame a couple years ago and now all of the new updates mean my build is maladapted. I've been using a two-handed weapon and light armor. Does anybody have any advice?
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May 28 2014, 06:28
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(Jingasa @ May 28 2014, 12:07)  I started playing the minigame a couple years ago and now all of the new updates mean my build is maladapted. I've been using a two-handed weapon and light armor. Does anybody have any advice? Hmm, perhaps you should get a mace instead of shortsword, estoc or katana? At your current level I'm pretty sure that any equip setup would be suck one way or another anyway... but at higher level (200+) 1H is the way to go, go with light armors then switch to heavy/power armors. This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 28 2014, 06:34
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May 28 2014, 06:40
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Osmy
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QUOTE(Jingasa @ May 27 2014, 22:07)  I started playing the minigame a couple years ago and now all of the new updates mean my build is maladapted. I've been using a two-handed weapon and light armor. Does anybody have any advice?
You're only level 37; stuff changes too fast at that level to be able to mess anything up. Just worry about cranking up the difficulty when you can and doing whatever works for killing the mobs.
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May 28 2014, 06:58
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kos9494
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 28 2014, 08:31)  Not really, PFUDOR IW of Peerless/Legendary item are significantly harder that its IWBTH counterpart. I'm talking about 200-300 difference in the number of cure
(Reminds me of the time when I was doing my mentor's Peerless Staff on Battletoad cuz even IWBTH was too hard for me at ~280... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ) QUOTE(Aegnor Alkarin @ May 28 2014, 08:56)  For IW, running on PFUDOR doesn't give you any increase in potency points gained over IWBTH. And if you're looking for good item drops you'd be playing arena anyway.
I certainly know that they give the same pxp per run. And no, in my experience Superior, Exquisite and even Mag. drops came more often in PFUDOR IW than IWBTH IW so I've always been doing IW on PFUDOR unless it's over 70 rounds. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 28 2014, 09:40)  Well, personally I would be staying off IWing stuffs at PFUDOR difficulty unless: 1. You have a near-maxed out Scavenger, LotD AND Archaeologist. 2. You're either a 1H user on a very good ping and at least 45% block chance, or a mage that's at least half as powerful as Dani.
Dunno about the first but kos9494 fits the second criteria, minus the ping rate I guess. Me on the other hand didn't cuz I would need mag-grade phases and Level 400 for holy mage, Level 450 for elemental mage, bare minimum. (no joke!)
You forgot holy_demon. He does IW faster than me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by kos9494: May 28 2014, 07:01
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May 28 2014, 07:48
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e-Stark
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 27 2014, 22:40)  Well, personally I would be staying off IWing stuffs at PFUDOR difficulty unless: 1. You have a near-maxed out Scavenger, LotD AND Archaeologist. 2. You're either a 1H user on a very good ping and at least 45% block chance, or a mage that's at least half as powerful as Dani.
Dunno about the first but kos9494 fits the second criteria, minus the ping rate I guess. Me on the other hand didn't cuz I would need mag-grade phases and Level 400 for holy mage, Level 450 for elemental mage, bare minimum. (no joke!) My two cents for mages, is that do PFUDOR IWs if, and ONLY IF you fulfills both of these criteria. It's very frustrating to chew more powerful monsters than you could bite for no good reason.
It's a simple decision to me... if I can do it on PFUDOR, I do it on PFUDOR... if not, then not... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 28 2014, 08:05
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Drakewyn
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 27 2014, 20:36)  Btw, anyone can show me a fully forged elemental/ethereal weapon with two infusions, preferably with HV's default font? I'll send you two infusions for the trouble.
Can't do it. If your weapon has two strikes, you can only add one infusion. That's why Holyforged & Darkforged are the most sought-after for Ethereal weapons.
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May 28 2014, 08:08
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etothex
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ May 27 2014, 22:48)  It's a simple decision to me... if I can do it on PFUDOR, I do it on PFUDOR... if not, then not... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) for me it also depends on whether i plan to afk-IW. Stuff that's not legendary+ i can pretty much zzz through on IWBTH, but mid-high 60s mags start forcing me to cure too much on PFUDOR.
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May 28 2014, 08:30
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kos9494
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Not really a good question in this thread but... How do ya guys feel about this holy rapier lottery (it's like the best I've ever seen in a while)? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by kos9494: May 28 2014, 08:36
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May 28 2014, 08:38
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ May 28 2014, 14:05)  Can't do it. If your weapon has two strikes, you can only add one infusion.
That's why Holyforged & Darkforged are the most sought-after for Ethereal weapons. That's gonna be quite a party pooper... Is the Holyforged & Darkforged potency more important than any other potencies like Level 5 Butcher? QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 28 2014, 14:30)  Not really a suitable question in this thread but... How do ya guys feel about this holy rapier lottery (it's like the best I've ever seen in a while)? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yep, comes with the territory of a peerless equip really. QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 28 2014, 12:58)  You forgot holy_demon. He does IW faster than me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hmm, it'll take a while for me to overcome the PFUDOR-25 rounds arena phobia... And last I tried I couldn't even do Hell difficulty IW properly, so not trying again until Level 310 at least... As for PFUDOR IWs, it might be practical in 1H, but the same can't be said for a mage. As for Level 400 thingy, that's the bare minimum for me to do IW service comfortably I think... and that's with at least mag+ phase armors. This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 28 2014, 08:47
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