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May 27 2014, 19:37
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Ermahferkinggerd
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Thanks for the responses so far. IMO it wasn't really made clear enough how to request certain items as it says plate at the very end so I guessed it only counted towards plate items.
Now I'm completely confused though since I have no idea what to do. Basically I'm only allowed to request one shade, phase, power of plate shielding item and after that I have to find lets say 4 other items with whatever prefix BESIDES those 4 prefixes if I understand correctly.
Alright then, going to have to make a new shopping list then >_<
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May 27 2014, 19:51
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(darkx @ May 27 2014, 15:59)  I've always wanted to ask, what is a mega credit and giga credit? I see you posting that all the time.
Do you mind if I ask where you're from? Because some of the terminology you use is kind of weird. Not trying to be offensive, just curious.
[ en.wikipedia.org] weird? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 27 2014, 19:32)  Please read the freeshop's rules thoroughly. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Piyin would be angry and ban you... indeed, and he would be right. just my two cents... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(Ermahferkinggerd @ May 27 2014, 19:37)  Thanks for the responses so far. IMO it wasn't really made clear enough how to request certain items as it says plate at the very end so I guessed it only counted towards plate items.
Now I'm completely confused though since I have no idea what to do. Basically I'm only allowed to request one shade, phase, power of plate shielding item and after that I have to find lets say 4 other items with whatever prefix BESIDES those 4 prefixes if I understand correctly.
Alright then, going to have to make a new shopping list then >_<
obviously you don't need to fulfill all the list, we will accept requests with only one item (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) basically let's say you can't rely on us to build a phase set, so you could ask only for one phase OR shade OR power OR shield item, while you can go up to 5 for cotton/leather/plate, even if mixed between them. BUT in case you request one magnificent, it would be your only request for that week, so be careful on what you choose (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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May 27 2014, 19:56
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Ermahferkinggerd
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 27 2014, 19:51)  obviously you don't need to fulfill all the list, we will accept requests with only one item (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) basically let's say you can't rely on us to build a phase set, so you could ask only for one phase OR shade OR power OR shield item, while you can go up to 5 for cotton/leather/plate, even if mixed between them. BUT in case you request one magnificent, it would be your only request for that week, so be careful on what you choose (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Thanks for the last minute advice on the magnificent item! I've re-arranged my list and changed it to something (I hope) proper while also maintaining as much fire power as I could find CODE My ONE request from Shade, Phase, Power or Shielding Plate items is: [45057003] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Robe of Surtr INT WIS
My TWO requests from 1 Handed, 2 Handed, Staff or Shields are: [44308519] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Redwood Staff of Surtr INT WIS
My FIVE requests from Cotton, Leather or Plate (not including SHielding Plate) armor are: [42515157] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Ruby Cotton Shoes of Protection AGI WIS [44859164] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Ruby Cotton Gloves of Protection AGI INT WIS [44321631] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Cotton Cap of Protection AGI INT WIS [44112260] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Cotton Pants of Protection AGI INT WIS
My TWO requests for potion packs are: 1x Health Pack 1x Mana Pack
I've never seen a community like this that has a 'starter' kit so-to-say shop where newbies like me can get a decent set of gear to play with.
Thank you very much :)
Will this go through and avoid the banhammer? ^^ Also, I'm sorry if I have derailed from the original topic of this thread >_< This post has been edited by Ermahferkinggerd: May 27 2014, 20:00
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May 27 2014, 20:14
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kos9494
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A little question to those IW maniac out there.
How many IWBTH/PFUDOR runs does it take to max an item? Is it the same for all grades or does it vary?
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May 27 2014, 21:03
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Aegnor Alkarin
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 27 2014, 19:14)  A little question to those IW maniac out there.
How many IWBTH/PFUDOR runs does it take to max an item? Is it the same for all grades or does it vary?
The higher the base PxP, the more rounds per run. The more rounds completed, the higher the potency points gained. It generally takes longer to max an item the higher its base PxP. Peerless items will always take 100 rounds per run. EDIT: there's a formula I've seen in IW service shops for calculating how many IWTBH rounds (no sense doing IW on PFUDOR) or Hell rounds it takes to max an item based on its PXP. This post has been edited by Aegnor Alkarin: May 27 2014, 21:07
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May 27 2014, 22:00
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boulay
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 27 2014, 20:14)  A little question to those IW maniac out there.
How many IWBTH/PFUDOR runs does it take to max an item? Is it the same for all grades or does it vary?
Around 20 runs I think... Count at least 4 or 5 just between Lv.9 and Lv.10... It doesn't change much between item quality since potency exp gain is scaled with said quality. This post has been edited by boulay: May 27 2014, 22:07
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May 27 2014, 22:16
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SPoison
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 27 2014, 11:14)  A little question to those IW maniac out there.
How many IWBTH/PFUDOR runs does it take to max an item? Is it the same for all grades or does it vary?
Whoops, I was thinking of a different number, around 20 runs is more correct, it can vary slightly but around 20. This post has been edited by SPoison: May 27 2014, 22:19
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May 27 2014, 22:25
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 27 2014, 20:14)  A little question to those IW maniac out there.
How many IWBTH/PFUDOR runs does it take to max an item? Is it the same for all grades or does it vary?
CODE total PXP needed: 1000*((1+PXP(1)/1000)^10 - 1) (source: wiki) then divide it by the number of rounds of your item multiplied by 15.6 and you have the number of runs needed. for reference: this helmet has 346 base PXP, thus 71 rounds. lv10 requires 18519 total PXP, then 18519 / (15.6 * 71) = 17 runs, basically what people before me said
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May 27 2014, 23:06
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e-Stark
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From what I've seen: The lower the PXP = Less rounds per run = More runs needed to max The higher the PXP = More rounds per run = Less runs needed to max Example: One of my Superior equips picked at random = PXP 280 = 28 rounds per run = 25 runs needed to max My Peerless armor = PXP 381 = 100 rounds per run = 15 runs needed to max QUOTE(Aegnor Alkarin @ May 27 2014, 16:03)  EDIT: there's a formula I've seen in IW service shops for calculating how many IWTBH rounds (no sense doing IW on PFUDOR) or Hell rounds it takes to max an item based on its PXP.
I do PFUDOR IW over IWBTH whenever I can... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The time needed is not too different... and you know, more credits, better drops... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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May 28 2014, 00:53
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kos9494
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QUOTE(Aegnor Alkarin @ May 28 2014, 03:03)  The higher the base PxP, the more rounds per run. The more rounds completed, the higher the potency points gained. It generally takes longer to max an item the higher its base PxP.
Peerless items will always take 100 rounds per run.
EDIT: there's a formula I've seen in IW service shops for calculating how many IWTBH rounds (no sense doing IW on PFUDOR) or Hell rounds it takes to max an item based on its PXP.
If you can do IWBTH IW easily, you can surely do PFUDOR too, with better rewards. QUOTE(boulay @ May 28 2014, 04:00)  Around 20 runs I think... Count at least 4 or 5 just between Lv.9 and Lv.10... It doesn't change much between item quality since potency exp gain is scaled with said quality.
QUOTE(e-Stark @ May 28 2014, 05:06)  From what I've seen: The lower the PXP = Less rounds per run = More runs needed to max The higher the PXP = More rounds per run = Less runs needed to max Example: One of my Superior equips picked at random = PXP 280 = 28 rounds per run = 25 runs needed to max My Peerless armor = PXP 381 = 100 rounds per run = 15 runs needed to max I do PFUDOR IW over IWBTH whenever I can... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The time needed is not too different... and you know, more credits, better drops... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) So they actually take different number of runs depending on their PXP huh? Thanks for the info. (Only Maxed 4 items by far and I didn't count the runs (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ) This post has been edited by kos9494: May 28 2014, 01:01
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May 28 2014, 01:07
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Drakewyn
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QUOTE(Ermahferkinggerd @ May 27 2014, 10:56)  Thanks for the last minute advice on the magnificent item!
I've re-arranged my list and changed it to something (I hope) proper while also maintaining as much fire power as I could find
Will this go through and avoid the banhammer? ^^
Also, I'm sorry if I have derailed from the original topic of this thread >_<
Looks good. Also, visit my shop (link in my sig) and let me know if you'd like one of the pieces of cloth or phase I've got there... I'm getting ready to sell most of my inventory to the Bazaar or ship it off to the Free Shop. I know there's a surtr cap in there.
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May 28 2014, 01:07
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Drakewyn
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Stupid slow connection at work made me double-post! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This post has been edited by Drakewyn: May 28 2014, 01:08
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May 28 2014, 02:31
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 28 2014, 08:53)  If you can do IWBTH IW easily, you can surely do PFUDOR too, with better rewards.
Not really, PFUDOR IW of Peerless/Legendary item are significantly harder that its IWBTH counterpart. I'm talking about 200-300 difference in the number of cure
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May 28 2014, 02:35
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Kazetenshi
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So about how much credits would the rapier in the lottery cost? Around 50m or so?
This post has been edited by Kazetenshi: May 28 2014, 02:35
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May 28 2014, 02:36
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Caia
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 28 2014, 08:24)  Stupid staff who reply forum post at work (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Today I plan to see if my phone can handle REs while I'm at work. My productivity will be greatly reduced if it is possible. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 28 2014, 02:56
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Aegnor Alkarin
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 27 2014, 23:53)  If you can do IWBTH IW easily, you can surely do PFUDOR too, with better rewards. So they actually take different number of runs depending on their PXP huh? Thanks for the info. (Only Maxed 4 items by far and I didn't count the runs (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ) For IW, running on PFUDOR doesn't give you any increase in potency points gained over IWBTH. And if you're looking for good item drops you'd be playing arena anyway.
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May 28 2014, 02:59
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Aegnor Alkarin
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QUOTE(Caia @ May 28 2014, 01:36)  Today I plan to see if my phone can handle REs while I'm at work. My productivity will be greatly reduced if it is possible. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I mostly do my REs on the phone, usually while taking a toilet break (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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May 28 2014, 03:15
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(Aegnor Alkarin @ May 28 2014, 10:56)  For IW, running on PFUDOR doesn't give you any increase in potency points gained over IWBTH. And if you're looking for good item drops you'd be playing arena anyway.
My time of PFUDOR IW of Mag item is exactly the same as IWBTH (no cure), so there's no reason not to do it on PFUDOR (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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