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post May 27 2014, 17:07
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Ok, so this might be a stupid post buuut...

I'm currently playing as a mage, but I'm dying extremely fast and basically after like 15ish~ rounds of Grindfest on the 6x muliplier difficulty I'm already out of mana and dead. I currently have a pretty good staff that gives me a lot of magic damage, has some nice elementalist bouns on it and also provides 22+ to fire.

I was wondering HOW can I survive longer? I've tried haste into shield into regen, then spamming Fiery Blast/the frost spell while refreshing my buffs and I've also tried using protection and simply casting Cure on myself everytime I'm low hp (mind you, I've upgraded all of these things already in the training tab).

Is it just that mages are really squishy? And if they are and not that viable, is it possible for me to still, like, completely reroll even though my Intel and Wis are already 80+?

So what should I do here?

Edit: Also, what's the best build to farm credits with?

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post May 27 2014, 17:24
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QUOTE(Ermahferkinggerd @ May 27 2014, 23:07) *
Ok, so this might be a stupid post buuut...

I'm currently playing as a mage, but I'm dying extremely fast and basically after like 15ish~ rounds of Grindfest on the 6x muliplier difficulty I'm already out of mana and dead. I currently have a pretty good staff that gives me a lot of magic damage, has some nice elementalist bouns on it and also provides 22+ to fire.

I was wondering HOW can I survive longer? I've tried haste into shield into regen, then spamming Fiery Blast/the frost spell while refreshing my buffs and I've also tried using protection and simply casting Cure on myself everytime I'm low hp (mind you, I've upgraded all of these things already in the training tab).

Is it just that mages are really squishy? And if they are and not that viable, is it possible for me to still, like, completely reroll even though my Intel and Wis are already 80+?

So what should I do here?

Edit: Also, what's the best build to farm credits with?
Hmm, I'd tell you stay off high difficulty aside from REs and play arenas instead of grindfesting.
Mages are really squishy below Level 250, and they don't get useful until level 310 with the fastest Imperil really.

Also, if your elemental proficiency is below 50 you'll want to use Hoverplay and spam Fiery Blast till you get Inferno, that'll help you a lot in REs which gives you loads of EXP for just one battle.
I've got this script up and running, but it's useless with your cursor occupied by Hoverplay, so I've requested oohmrparis to have them appear below the stamina bar.
Also, what kinda staffs and equips do you have?

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post May 27 2014, 17:36
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From SE Asia, same nationality as kos9494, it's not that hard to become multilingual in my nation cuz you have to learn at least three languages (mother language+national language+international language[=English]) at the get-go there as a native citizen.


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QUOTE(Ermahferkinggerd @ May 27 2014, 23:07) *

Ok, so this might be a stupid post buuut...

I'm currently playing as a mage, but I'm dying extremely fast and basically after like 15ish~ rounds of Grindfest on the 6x muliplier difficulty I'm already out of mana and dead. I currently have a pretty good staff that gives me a lot of magic damage, has some nice elementalist bouns on it and also provides 22+ to fire.

I was wondering HOW can I survive longer? I've tried haste into shield into regen, then spamming Fiery Blast/the frost spell while refreshing my buffs and I've also tried using protection and simply casting Cure on myself everytime I'm low hp (mind you, I've upgraded all of these things already in the training tab).

Is it just that mages are really squishy? And if they are and not that viable, is it possible for me to still, like, completely reroll even though my Intel and Wis are already 80+?

So what should I do here?

Edit: Also, what's the best build to farm credits with?


Well I did mage a little at low level but I was more into Domino Strike that time. Pass Lv.170, I slowly switched into DW to deal more damage and ended up with 1H+Power.

Mage generally can't survive too long before reaching optimal level (~400 as what most Mage fanatic say), they either kill or die fast. Also, Imperil is your cookie-cutter skill. Without Maxing it (to get that extra target hits and low CD) it's hard to mage efficiently.

My advice is if you want to level fast, do high difficulty challenge such as Battletoad Arena, PFUDOR REs, etc. it's best to switch into 1H, or DW if you can afford some Mag. level equipments. Any other fighting style isn't quite efficient until high level (~350++).

Farming credits? As long as you play a lot + your level is high you can always earn credits fast with any fighting style at low difficulty.

Unless you are aiming for good equipment drops, you would need to do Arenas/REs on PFUDOR difficulty (-easiest style to do that is 1H/DW for ~300 level).

If you have Crystanium perk, Hellfest is a good place for you to farm crystals which many tamers out there are demanding.

Clearing Ring of Blood, the one with 5 tokens as entry tickets (Flying Spaghetti Monster) earns you a 60kc-worth boss trophy namely the Noodly Appendage.

When you can efficiently do Item World, you can try offering IW service. Maxing an Exquisite item can earn you ~300k or even higher when it comes to Mag. grade.

Anyway, focus on your level first. Once you reach Lv. 250 or so you can start earning credits in many ways as well as trying out any fighting styles to your heart's content.

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post May 27 2014, 17:41
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There's a difference between an accurate guess and a good guess, as the latter is pretty vague. but it's up to you to disclose yours and request me to disclose mine...

Acolytes would want a bit more (twice, actually) to get to Level 210 to be a full-fledged mage without resorting to doing PFUDOR arenas all day though...


I guess I was a little vague, but that was my attempt at saying you guessed correctly
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post May 27 2014, 17:49
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post May 27 2014, 17:58
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what is going on, or am i losing my mind. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

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You mean like this? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post May 27 2014, 18:04
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post May 27 2014, 18:05
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 27 2014, 17:24) *

Hmm, I'd tell you stay off high difficulty aside from REs and play arenas instead of grindfesting.
Mages are really squishy below Level 250, and they don't get useful until level 310 with the fastest Imperil really.

Also, if your elemental proficiency is below 50 you'll want to use Hoverplay and spam Fiery Blast till you get Inferno, that'll help you a lot in REs which gives you loads of EXP for just one battle.
I've got this script up and running, but it's useless with your cursor occupied by Hoverplay, so I've requested oohmrparis to have them appear below the stamina bar.
Also, what kinda staffs and equips do you have?

Uhh, I'm not familiar with the terminology for this game. Exactly what are REs?

As for arenas, I've done them all up until level 60, which I haven't been able to defeat cause I die so fast.

Currently my staff is Superior Redwood Staff of Surtr. I know I have to go for elementalist, but I figured since this stuff gives a ton of Elemental damage as well as Fire damage it would be a good bet.

I also haven't been able to do the Ring of Blood because I don't have those tokens and idk how to get them either.

And again, the item world I haven't gotten any luck with either because I can't get past the 10th wave or so and I don't know how many waves there are to go.



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post May 27 2014, 18:12
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QUOTE(Ermahferkinggerd @ May 27 2014, 12:05) *

Uhh, I'm not familiar with the terminology for this game. Exactly what are REs?

As for arenas, I've done them all up until level 60, which I haven't been able to defeat cause I die so fast.

Currently my staff is Superior Redwood Staff of Surtr. I know I have to go for elementalist, but I figured since this stuff gives a ton of Elemental damage as well as Fire damage it would be a good bet.


it stands for Random Encounter. read up on the rest here

you were right to go with surtr. elementalist doesn't grant you any extra damage, which is the whole point of maging. if you havent already get some phase of surtr too. the free shop over in WTS should be able to help; just make sure you read the rules
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post May 27 2014, 18:14
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it stands for Random Encounter. read up on the rest here

you were right to go with surtr. elementalist doesn't grant you any extra damage, which is the whole point of maging. if you havent already get some phase of surtr too. the free shop over in WTS should be able to help; just make sure you read the rules

I had read up somewhere that I should be going for elementalist gear. Oh well. Are the Random Encounters the ones I get when I'm on the frontpage of the website? If so, is there a way to control them and continuously get them?

Edit: Nvm, just read up on REs on the wiki. Derpy me.

As for the free shop, I knew about it but I wasn't sure if some of the items there are worth using since their stats seem to be well.. quite mediocre. My staff seems to be better than magnificent staves there and Idk what to do with the items when I no longer need them.

Second edit: WOOHOO Finally gathered 5 hath. At least now I finally have my extended favorites I so now I can focus a bit more on buying items (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Another question, a bit off-topic but I'm really wondering this as it concerns H@H and hath gain: I set my burst upload at 5 MB/S but when I go to my H@H page on the website it only says it's uploading at 1.1MB/s and whne I look at my H@H it says it's only uploading with 14kb/s. Is there something I'm missing here?

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post May 27 2014, 18:43
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ಠ_ಠ...
Just a while ago you were so hesitating nationality disclosure and now...
Well, I wouldn't lose my sleep over disclosing my nationality and education level here. but I wouldn't wanna disclose much more of my personal details than these whereas possible.
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Another question, a bit off-topic but I'm really wondering this as it concerns H@H and hath gain: I set my burst upload at 5 MB/s but when I go to my H@H page on the website it only says it's uploading at 1.1MB/s and whne I look at my H@H it says it's only uploading with 14kb/s. Is there something I'm missing here?
Meh, all H@H clients and servers are essentially load balancers and there's plenty of them already (over 10k of them), so naturally they'll upload far less than your stipulated speed limit.
As for 14kb/s, that's probably your server connection thingy or someone with a slow Internet connection loaded an image from your server... dunno much more than that.

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post May 27 2014, 18:50
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I had read up somewhere that I should be going for elementalist gear. Oh well. Are the Random Encounters the ones I get when I'm on the frontpage of the website? If so, is there a way to control them and continuously get them?

Edit: Nvm, just read up on REs on the wiki. Derpy me.

As for the free shop, I knew about it but I wasn't sure if some of the items there are worth using since their stats seem to be well.. quite mediocre. My staff seems to be better than magnificent staves there and Idk what to do with the items when I no longer need them.

Second edit: WOOHOO Finally gathered 5 hath. At least now I finally have my extended favorites I so now I can focus a bit more on buying items (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Another question, a bit off-topic but I'm really wondering this as it concerns H@H and hath gain: I set my burst upload at 5 MB/S but when I go to my H@H page on the website it only says it's uploading at 1.1MB/s and whne I look at my H@H it says it's only uploading with 14kb/s. Is there something I'm missing here?


An option for you, given your lower level, is (and I don't know how many pieces the Free Shop has at the moment) getting a set of Shade armor of the Arcanist... like this: Superior Shade Leggings of the Arcanist.

Obviously, don't mix cloth & light armors... but a set of Shade will provide you with much greater protection and the opportunity to smack things with your staff. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post May 27 2014, 18:58
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Ok, so I went through the free shop just now, looking for items I may want to request. One thing isn't clear to me though...

Am I allowed to ask for 5 EXQ quality items AND a Magnificent quality item + 2 potion packs OR can I only ask for EITHER 1 magnificent item + 2 pot packs OR 5 EXQ quality items and 2 pot packs?

Don't want to get banned :X

Edit: Nvm... Again, I was too hasty and didn't read that I can request up to 10 items per week.

So, I've basically request 4 exq phase surtr items that all give me +fire damage as well as give me a bit of agility for a small bit avoidance. I've also request a new staff that's stronger than my current one.

As for my current staff, it's not a bad staff but is it possible to sell it or give it to the free shop in return?

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post May 27 2014, 19:00
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QUOTE(Ermahferkinggerd @ May 27 2014, 18:14) *

I had read up somewhere that I should be going for elementalist gear. Oh well. Are the Random Encounters the ones I get when I'm on the frontpage of the website? If so, is there a way to control them and continuously get them?

Edit: Nvm, just read up on REs on the wiki. Derpy me.

As for the free shop, I knew about it but I wasn't sure if some of the items there are worth using since their stats seem to be well.. quite mediocre. My staff seems to be better than magnificent staves there and Idk what to do with the items when I no longer need them.

Second edit: WOOHOO Finally gathered 5 hath. At least now I finally have my extended favorites I so now I can focus a bit more on buying items (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Another question, a bit off-topic but I'm really wondering this as it concerns H@H and hath gain: I set my burst upload at 5 MB/S but when I go to my H@H page on the website it only says it's uploading at 1.1MB/s and whne I look at my H@H it says it's only uploading with 14kb/s. Is there something I'm missing here?

Most of the answers you're looking for are on the wiki, you should read the Advice and Play Styles.

About the Free Shop, you're right that Mag prefix doesn't mean much with regards to rolls, but you should still look for some phase if you want to play mage. Mind to share what is your equipment right now? (Tip: hover over your equipment and press 'c' then copy/paste the link of the pop-up).

About h@h, what you specify is the max speed of your client, what's displayed on the site is an average, and what's displayed on your client is the current speed, which can vary a lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 27 2014, 19:04
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 27 2014, 11:49) *

what is going on, or am i losing my mind. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)



I got this script to set certain keywords to change such as 'game of thrones' to look away, to avoid spoilers. In this case it's the 'logia' inside the name that set off the script
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post May 27 2014, 19:05
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Most of the answers you're looking for are on the wiki, you should read the Advice and Play Styles.

About the Free Shop, you're right that Mag prefix doesn't mean much with regards to rolls, but you should still look for some phase if you want to play mage. Mind to share what is your equipment right now? (Tip: hover over your equipment and press 'c' then copy/paste the link of the pop-up).

About h@h, what you specify is the max speed of your client, what's displayed on the site is an average, and what's displayed on your client is the current speed, which can vary a lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks for answering some of my questions, as I've already posted right before you posted your comment, I'm currently going to request full phase surtr gear. My current gear is really out of place and random:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=670acb0637
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a623eeaadc
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a623eeaadc
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=5f08e62e97
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=46e715073c
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=783a5c7f3d

Edit: Ok, so I haven't posted my request yet cause it's rather intimidating if I mess up. On the rules it says I'm not allowed to request more than 1 power item. Does this only go for power plate items? Cause it also mentions in the bad request example "1 phase item".

Second Edit: Sooo... I checked around more and theres a freaking example order text you can copy and use. Now I have this request ready to be posted:
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My ONE request from Shade, Phase, Power or Shielding Plate items is:
[remove this and paste the full item code and name here - if you do not want a shade, phase, power or shielding plate item this week, leave this message here. You may only add 1 item from these categories here]

My TWO requests from 1 Handed, 2 Handed, Staff or Shields are:
[44308519] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Redwood Staff of Surtr INT WIS

My FIVE requests from Cotton, Leather or Plate (not including SHielding Plate) armor are:
[42843015] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Cap of Surtr INT WIS
[45057003] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Robe of Surtr INT WIS
[42763867] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Gloves of Surtr AGI INT WIS
[43048440] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Shoes of Surtr AGI INT WIS
[45513670] - [hv0.co.uk] Mag Phase Pants of Surtr AGI INT WIS

My TWO requests for potion packs are:
1x Health Pack
1x Mana Pack


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post May 27 2014, 19:27
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Thanks for answering some of my questions, as I've already posted right before you posted your comment, I'm currently going to request full phase surtr gear. My current gear is really out of place and random:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=670acb0637
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a623eeaadc
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a623eeaadc
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=5f08e62e97
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=46e715073c
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=783a5c7f3d

Edit: Ok, so I haven't posted my request yet cause it's rather intimidating if I mess up. On the rules it says I'm not allowed to request more than 1 power item. Does this only go for power plate items? Cause it also mentions in the bad request example "1 phase item".

Second Edit: Sooo... I checked around more and theres a freaking example order text you can copy and use. Now I have this request ready to be posted:
CODE
My ONE request from Shade, Phase, Power or Shielding Plate items is:
[remove this and paste the full item code and name here - if you do not want a shade, phase, power or shielding plate item this week, leave this message here. You may only add 1 item from these categories here]

My TWO requests from 1 Handed, 2 Handed, Staff or Shields are:
[44308519] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Redwood Staff of Surtr INT WIS

My FIVE requests from Cotton, Leather or Plate (not including SHielding Plate) armor are:
[42843015] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Cap of Surtr INT WIS
[45057003] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Robe of Surtr INT WIS
[42763867] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Gloves of Surtr AGI INT WIS
[43048440] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Shoes of Surtr AGI INT WIS
[45513670] - [hv0.co.uk] Mag Phase Pants of Surtr AGI INT WIS

My TWO requests for potion packs are:
1x Health Pack
1x Mana Pack



That's a banworthy request, easily. You can only request one Phase item at a time.

Personal advice, as someone who's been almost exclusively a mage since level 42: pick up some decent Cotton of Protection and roll with that for the next 30 or so levels, then switch entirely to Surtr stuff at that point. The extra damage at your level doesn't increase your kill speed enough in comparison with the somewhat increased survivability of Protection Cotton.
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post May 27 2014, 19:29
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I got this script to set certain keywords to change such as 'game of thrones' to look away, to avoid spoilers. In this case it's the 'logia' inside the name that set off the script


such a great show. though, what happened this week? i guess they'll be back next week. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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as i understand it your whole request is invalid. except the Potion packs

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- Phase Armor
- Shade Armor
- Shielding Plate Armor


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and Five items from the following categories:
- Cotton/Gossamer Armor
- Leather Armor
- Plate Armor (excluding Shielding Plate)


you've asked 5 items from the first category & 0 items in the 2nd category. though, imo, unless you really want to, don't mage when you're lvl250>. i want to say lv400 but what do i know.

as i understand it, mages can get very good later on. especially when you've the stats (ie High lvl) & equip (ie expensive gear + forging which is even more expensive). also, the Ability Points to Max out every ability.

though, for now, you can start with 2H+Leather which you can get it ALL in 1 go from the FreeShop.

just my 2 cents anyway. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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My ONE request from Shade, Phase, Power or Shielding Plate items is:
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My TWO requests from 1 Handed, 2 Handed, Staff or Shields are:
[44308519] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Redwood Staff of Surtr INT WIS

My FIVE requests from Cotton, Leather or Plate (not including SHielding Plate) armor are:
[42843015] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Cap of Surtr INT WIS
[45057003] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Robe of Surtr INT WIS
[42763867] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Gloves of Surtr AGI INT WIS
[43048440] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Shoes of Surtr AGI INT WIS
[45513670] - [hv0.co.uk] Mag Phase Pants of Surtr AGI INT WIS

My TWO requests for potion packs are:
1x Health Pack
1x Mana Pack



You'll probably get banned and will piss off piyin because you're requesting FIVE phase items when the limit is one. You put the 5 phase requests under the "Cotton, Leather or Plate" category when it falls under "Shade, Phase, Power or Shielding Plate"

So my advice is to NOT post that unless you enjoy looking at piyin's "banhammer" gifs or you enjoy getting yelled at (over the internet). Though they are pretty amusing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post May 27 2014, 19:32
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QUOTE(Ermahferkinggerd @ May 28 2014, 02:05) *

My FIVE requests from Cotton, Leather or Plate (not including SHielding Plate) armor are:
[42843015] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Cap of Surtr INT WIS
[45057003] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Robe of Surtr INT WIS
[42763867] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Gloves of Surtr AGI INT WIS
[43048440] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Phase Shoes of Surtr AGI INT WIS
[45513670] - [hv0.co.uk] Mag Phase Pants of Surtr AGI INT WIS

Please read the freeshop's rules thoroughly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Piyin would be angry and ban you...
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