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May 27 2014, 10:22
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LeFlame-Befoe
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 27 2014, 02:37)  Keep it around and try to sell it when somebody wants to experiment with weird builds
Alright~
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May 27 2014, 10:38
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 27 2014, 09:09)  Free stats is never a bad thing
Free stats that make it easier for you to get juggernaut 5 is a great thing
QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 27 2014, 09:52)  Seeing how most attacks that proc my Spirit Shield are Void and some Piercing/Crushing from gc's army (Light sometimes but not so often since Celestial get taken down fairly quick) I'd say an increase in HP is much better than having elemental mitigation that are quite useless against these attacks. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) So I'd agree with having free mitigation is better for getting that crucial Juggernaut. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) makes sense. Juggernaut is still king. too bad there's no void mitigation anymore. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 27 2014, 10:22)  From my last auction: mCA01d [SENT] Magnificent Mystic Phase Robe of Fenrir [seller:Chirarhythm03] Current bid: 800k ( card323 ) mCA02d [SENT] Magnificent Charged Phase Gloves of Fenrir [seller:Chirarhythm03] Current bid: 300k ( Cats Lover ) mCA03d [SENT] Magnificent Charged Phase Shoes of Fenrir [seller:Chirarhythm03] Current bid: 300k ( Cats Lover ) so it can be sold for at least about 200k or so. Also is there any script for me to track the training rate? I'm considering to sink all my donation money from my last auction there... there is never enough credits to train them, ugh... HV stat does track training rate, but it's quite slow. wait, but what are you training again? also, thanks for the price quote, but i'd imagine it might be closer to low 6 digits. some other elements are selling for mid-high 6 digits (even cold). the ones in your auction is charged & there's one pair of shoes pretty similar to mind sold for 100k. i think i'll just save it for myself whenever i want to try out Maging. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 27 2014, 12:32
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n125
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I thought maxing Adept Learner would be a breeze, but it's turning out to be such a slow-going chore. I wish this training had 30 levels instead of 300. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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May 27 2014, 13:52
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 27 2014, 16:38)  HV stat does track training rate, but it's quite slow. wait, but what are you training again? Hmm, i would want to say LoTD, but I have a total of AP deficit of whooping 21. For my elemental mage setup alone. Just this one setup had makes me having an AP deficit for the optimal ability setup. So I'm gonna have to train Ability Boost to 120 at least... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Is it any wonder that Blacksmith-kun states that elem sets is only useful starting at Level 450? Oh boy... And finally, couldn't find it anywhere in HVstat's setting... actually I'm gonna say displays the currently trained subject on the left side of the pane... QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 27 2014, 16:38)  i think i'll just save it for myself whenever i want to try out Maging. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Except that the bandwagon element is wind and holy really. Dark-elemental is sadly the worst of the six elements mainly because it has the disadvantages of higher MP cost and slower cast speed but lacks anything like the Holy element's breached defense thingy to back up such a huge disadvantage. It's supposed to be similar to Wind mage setup, but that slow cast speed, high MP cost and poor mitigation profile had literally shot the darkmages in the foot. That's the story of the "In Memory of Dark Mages" really. GC-kun had literally shot himself at his foot... and the rest of the darkmages within the Magic Association. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) QUOTE(n125 @ May 27 2014, 18:32)  I thought maxing Adept Learner would be a breeze, but it's turning out to be such a slow-going chore. I wish this training had 30 levels instead of 300. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) But then it's cost per tier would've balloned so badly that newbies can't afford them really... I recalled that Rapture-kun had mentioned he can barely pay the bills to up the Adept Learner. Also, asking again, is it just me and kos9494 that it's faster to play HV on a popup window than on a tab? Using the latest Firefox btw. Anyone had any ideas as of why? This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 27 2014, 14:31
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May 27 2014, 14:54
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kos9494
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 27 2014, 19:52)  Also, asking again, is it just me and kos9494 that it's faster to play HV on a popup window than on a tab? Using the latest Firefox btw. Anyone had any ideas as of why?
So you're experiencing faster loading on popup window too eh?
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May 27 2014, 15:20
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 27 2014, 13:52)  Hmm, i would want to say LoTD, but I have a total of AP deficit of whooping 21. For my elemental mage setup alone. Just this one setup had makes me having an AP deficit for the optimal ability setup. So I'm gonna have to train Ability Boost to 120 at least... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) spells really uses a lot of AP, especially, when you lvl up, you'll unlock a lot more ability lvl caps which requires even More AP. the Better+Faster xyz spell can cost 20-35AP each. & i'm too cheap too max out the non-essentially stuff. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE Except that the bandwagon element is wind and holy really. Dark-elemental is sadly the worst of the six elements mainly because it has the disadvantages of higher MP cost and slower cast speed but lacks anything like the Holy element's breached defense thingy to back up such a huge disadvantage. It's supposed to be similar to Wind mage setup, but that slow cast speed, high MP cost and poor mitigation profile had literally shot the darkmages in the foot. That's the story of the "In Memory of Dark Mages" really. GC-kun had literally shot himself at his foot... and the rest of the darkmages within the Magic Association. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) for some reason GC is buying dark stuff again in WTB. so... ... are we expecting a new wave of "Return of Dark Mages" monsters. probably not. QUOTE But then it's cost per tier would've balloned so badly that newbies can't afford them really... I recalled that Rapture-kun had mentioned he can barely pay the bills to up the Adept Learner. you guys are too rich & i'm probably a dumbass for not having more Adept Learner. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)  QUOTE Also, asking again, is it just me and kos9494 that it's faster to play HV on a popup window than on a tab? Using the latest Firefox btw. Anyone had any ideas as of why?
using chrome. no difference.
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May 27 2014, 15:29
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boulay
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^ Adept learner is slow and costy if you chain train, but there should be no problem if you're going for 5 or 10 levels... I have 200/300 and I'm probably not going to go further...
This post has been edited by boulay: May 27 2014, 15:30
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May 27 2014, 15:44
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darkx
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ May 27 2014, 02:09)  If you are a mage and have to budget for an upgrade you are going to have a bad time. The stats on the Mag robe are pretty good, its at the borderline for something you could do a tiny bit of forging like 3-5 phazon. If it had a decent prefix like charged, or frugal, radiant I'd pull the trigger. Sometimes mjolnir mag pieces like that can go for cheap now 100-300k but in the past the cost could go out to 2m (without a good prefix I wouldn't see that occurring these days.) Mjolnir's main advantage is its cheapness lol, so keep an idea on what you want to pay and hunt for good gears at the auctions.
Thanks for the advice. I'm willing to shell out the money for the gear, but I can't seem to find anything that is better in all aspects, than what I'm currently using, that's worth paying for
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May 27 2014, 15:45
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 27 2014, 20:54)  So you're experiencing faster loading on popup window too eh? Well, have yet to try it out on Netcafe, but I'd say it wouldn't matter when you have a really good Net connection. QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 27 2014, 21:20)  you guys are too rich & i'm probably a dumbass for not having more Adept Learner. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)  And yet you managed to get to level 330 already... mine is 162, I spent part of my old 12 Megacredits bounty to foot the bills for the first 150, otherwise I wouldn't have even played HV in the first place... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I'm probably gonna quit playing HV for two months, effective June 15 or so for some job searching... still gonna hold the Arcanum Auction monthly though. I'm gonna be on a credit grinding-frenzies until then... Also, if you have any legendary equips to be auctioned off, I will be holding one here. Bumped it with an invalid bid from me, just because. This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 27 2014, 15:56
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May 27 2014, 15:54
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 27 2014, 15:45)  Well, have yet to try it out on Netcafe, but I'd say it wouldn't matter when you have a really good Net connection. And yet you managed to get to level 330 already... mine is 162, I spent part of my old 12 Megacredits bounty to foot the bills for the first 150, otherwise I wouldn't have even played HV in the first place... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I'm probably gonna quit playing HV for two months, effective June 15 or so for some job searching... still gonna hold the Arcanum Auction monthly though. I'm gonna be on a credit grinding-frenzies until then... mostly it's just from daily 5% exp reward + doing RE@PF for a while. also, doing TT +1st SG @PF nets me lots of exp. anyway, goodluck on the job search. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 27 2014, 15:55
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 27 2014, 21:52)  Also, asking again, is it just me and kos9494 that it's faster to play HV on a popup window than on a tab? Using the latest Firefox btw. Anyone had any ideas as of why?
All tabs on each window of firefox will share the same process, ie: memory, cache, thread and all the memory/CPU leak caused by other tabs (and javascript is full of these leaks), aka software decay. A new window will of course have its own separate thread/memory allocation, freed of these "legacy" garbage (It's not exactly completely free of software decay, as there's also disk fragmentation, legacy code from old patch, history, unused extension, etc... to consider, but it has less) Chromium doesn't have this trait since it divides the window into tab group, each with its own memory/thread This post has been edited by holy_demon: May 27 2014, 16:06
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May 27 2014, 15:59
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darkx
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QUOTE( Look Away @ May 27 2014, 09:45)  Well, have yet to try it out on Netcafe, but I'd say it wouldn't matter when you have a really good Net connection. And yet you managed to get to level 330 already... mine is 162, I spent part of my old 12 Megacredits bounty to foot the bills for the first 150, otherwise I wouldn't have even played HV in the first place... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I'm probably gonna quit playing HV for two months, effective June 15 or so for some job searching... still gonna hold the Arcanum Auction monthly though. I'm gonna be on a credit grinding-frenzies until then... Also, if you have any legendary equips to be auctioned off, I will be holding one here. Bumped it with an invalid bid from me, just because. I've always wanted to ask, what is a mega credit and giga credit? I see you posting that all the time. Do you mind if I ask where you're from? Because some of the terminology you use is kind of weird. Not trying to be offensive, just curious.
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May 27 2014, 16:01
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simrock87
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 27 2014, 15:55)  All tabs on each window of firefox will share the same process, ie: memory, cache, thread and all the memory/CPU leak caused by other tabs (and javascript is full of these leaks), aka software decay. A new window will of course have its own separate thread/memory allocation, freed of these "legacy" garbage
Chromium doesn't have this trait since it divides the window into tab group, each with its own memory/thread
Hmm, makes sense, you learn something new every day (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Another weird thing: Iron/Chromium crashes for me when i play in the popup every 15minutes or so, when i play in a tab it stays perfectly stable for hours on end (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) QUOTE(darkx @ May 27 2014, 15:59)  I've always wanted to ask, what is a mega credit and giga credit? I see you posting that all the time.
Do you mind if I ask where you're from? Because some of the terminology you use is kind of weird. Not trying to be offensive, just curious.
Mega is a 10^6 multiplier, Giga is 10^9 multiplier. It's just another way of saying million and billion (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) i.e. 2 Mega Credits = 2mil Credits, 8 Giga Credits = 8bil Credits. Also, there is kk for kilo * kilo = 10^3 * 10^3 = 10^6, which also is another way of saying a million (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by simrock87: May 27 2014, 16:05
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May 27 2014, 16:04
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 27 2014, 21:55)  All tabs on each window of firefox will share the same process, ie: memory, cache, thread and all the memory/CPU leak caused by other tabs (and javascript is full of these leaks), aka software decay. A new window will of course have its own separate thread/memory allocation, freed of these "legacy" garbage
Chromium doesn't have this trait since it divides the window into tab group, each with its own memory/thread
That's what I thought when I suggested the about:memory thingy to kos9494 as well. So a new window would do the trick as well, huh? I'll be sure to keep this in mind. QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 27 2014, 21:54)  mostly it's just from daily 5% exp reward + doing RE@PF for a while. also, doing TT +1st SG @PF nets me lots of exp. anyway, goodluck on the job search. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Main problem is I have a bad interpersonal skills (as an introvert) and zero prior experience in real-life job like cashier and stuff. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) My IT diploma paper hardly helps in my job searching from what everyone around me tells... Man oh man, I have to waste a few years taking on a degree real soon, so I'm gonna be too poor to afford a PS4, let alone a good enough Net connection until then... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) QUOTE(darkx @ May 27 2014, 21:59)  I've always wanted to ask, what is a mega credit and giga credit? I see you posting that all the time. I'm pretty sure that I don't use gigacredits often, because that one literally billions of credits. Megacredits means million of credits. if you've dealt with megabytes and gigabytes you should've known the drill already. This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 27 2014, 16:28
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May 27 2014, 16:05
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kos9494
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QUOTE(boulay @ May 27 2014, 21:29)  ^ Adept learner is slow and costy if you chain train, but there should be no problem if you're going for 5 or 10 levels... I have 200/300 and I'm probably not going to go further...
Lol I'm staying at 100 and I'm fine with it.
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May 27 2014, 16:09
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darkx
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ May 27 2014, 10:01)  Mega is a 10^6 multiplier, Giga is 10^9 multiplier. It's just another way of saying million and billion (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) i.e. 2 Mega Credits = 2mil Credits, 8 Giga Credits = 8bil Credits. Also, there is kk for kilo * kilo = 10^3 * 10^3 = 10^6, which also is another way of saying a million (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Ah, that makes sense. Thanks Would it not be easier to just put 2m or 8b ? Easier for the masses to understand and less to type
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May 27 2014, 16:20
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simrock87
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 27 2014, 16:04)  That's what I thought when I suggested the about:memory thingy to kos9494 as well. So a new window would do the trick as well, huh? I'll be sure to keep this in mind. Main problem is I have a bad interpersonal skills (as an introvert) and zero prior experience in real-life job like cashier and stuff. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) My IT diploma paper hardly helps in my job searching from what everyone around me tells... Man oh man, I have to waste a few years taking on a degree real soon, so I'm gonna be too poor to afford a PS4, let alone a good enough Net connection until then... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) I suppose where you're from a diploma is not what i think it is ([ en.wikipedia.org] wiki). I always struggle with foreign education systems ;( Even if it does not belong here, maintaining a healthy presence on github and contributing to various OSS projects while you have time to spend gives you an edge and can even net you some job offers from companies that work with the OSS you contribute to. QUOTE(darkx @ May 27 2014, 16:09)  Ah, that makes sense. Thanks
Would it not be easier to just put 2m or 8b ? Easier for the masses to understand and less to type
It's a matter of style i suppose (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) As long as we don't start with Kibi, Mibi, Gibi and so on, everything is still normal (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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May 27 2014, 16:28
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(darkx @ May 27 2014, 21:59)  Do you mind if I ask where you're from? Because some of the terminology you use is kind of weird. Not trying to be offensive, just curious. From SE Asia, same nationality as kos9494, it's not that hard to become multilingual in my nation cuz you have to learn at least three languages (mother language+national language+international language[=English]) at the get-go there as a native citizen. Now that I've disclosed mine, care to tell me your nationality, darkx? But then again, I could guess that you're probably an American if my terminology sounds foreign to you. QUOTE(simrock87 @ May 27 2014, 22:20)  I suppose where you're from a diploma is not what i think it is ([ en.wikipedia.org] wiki). I always struggle with foreign education systems ;( In my country, Diploma/Foundation degree -> Bachelor's degree -> Master's degree -> PhD Your diplom thingy is a 3rd tier degree. I've just completed only the 1st tier (=associate degree). This means I'm an acolyte IRL as well lol. QUOTE(simrock87 @ May 27 2014, 22:20)  Even if it does not belong here, maintaining a healthy presence on github and contributing to various OSS projects while you have time to spend gives you an edge and can even net you some job offers from companies that work with the OSS you contribute to. Except that it's actually more on the business side, that's why I know a few accounting basics. And I don't know jack shit about programming enough to write a Javascript... gonna have to self-teach myself that... Heck, I probably have to re-learn the programming basics from the ground-up... QUOTE(simrock87 @ May 27 2014, 22:20)  It's a matter of style i suppose (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) As long as we don't start with Kibi, Mibi, Gibi and so on, everything is still normal (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Yep, a matter of style, As for mibi thingly, it litally stands for "mega binary" I suppose, anyway, one kibi is 2^10, mibi is 2^20, gibi is 2^30. This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 27 2014, 16:50
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May 27 2014, 16:54
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darkx
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QUOTE( Look Away @ May 27 2014, 10:28)  From SE Asia, same nationality as kos9494, it's not that hard to become multilingual in my nation cuz you have to learn at least three languages (mother language+national language+international language[=English]) at the get-go there as a native citizen. Now that I've disclosed mine, care to tell me your nationality, darkx? But then again, I could guess that you're probably an American if my terminology sounds foreign to you.
Wow that's a lot of stuff to learn Hahaha, good guess! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 27 2014, 16:58
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(darkx @ May 27 2014, 22:54)  Wow that's a lot of stuff to learn Hahaha, good guess! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) There's a difference between an accurate guess and a good guess, as the latter is pretty vague. but it's up to you to disclose yours and request me to disclose mine... QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 27 2014, 22:05)  Lol I'm staying at 100 and I'm fine with it. Acolytes would want a bit more (twice, actually) to get to Level 210 to be a full-fledged mage without resorting to doing PFUDOR arenas all day though... This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 27 2014, 17:05
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