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Hey everyone. I would like some advice on my current build:

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Current Equips:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b17776258f
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8151f16585
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e3ff8df7df
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=601ecc8d93
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=760b6abe98
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=55be6c24e4

For abilities I've maxed all the essentials (HP, MP, 2H & Heavy Armor) and Cure. Recalled reading that haste is good to max after but my burden is 91. Not sure where to go with all this ...

Is this equipment good until I hit 200~250? | Should I save up my ability points for other stuff that comes when I level up? | Anything I need to change at the moment? Many thanks.

Thanks to something for answering my previous questions.

I've decided on going Shade + 2H post level 200. What prefixes / suffixes are commonly used or thought to be good? Should I invest in a full Shade set (exquisite / magnificent) or just keep saving up until I can afford a new Mace or Estoc? (Current equips as seen above ... I have a magnificent mace of slaughter atm)

Thanks!

This post has been edited by wwgenesis: May 26 2014, 07:20

Thanks to something for answering my previous questions.

I've decided on going Shade + 2H post level 200. What prefixes / suffixes are commonly used or thought to be good? Should I invest in a full Shade set (exquisite / magnificent) or just keep saving up until I can afford a new Mace or Estoc? (Current equips as seen above ... I have a magnificent mace of slaughter atm)

Thanks!

Since you're going Shade, try to get an Ethereal Mace.

Thanks to something for answering my previous questions.

I've decided on going Shade + 2H post level 200. What prefixes / suffixes are commonly used or thought to be good? Should I invest in a full Shade set (exquisite / magnificent) or just keep saving up until I can afford a new Mace or Estoc? (Current equips as seen above ... I have a magnificent mace of slaughter atm)

Thanks!

For Shades

Prefix: Anything is fine.

Suffix: IMO, Fleet / Shadowdancer is better since Shade is almost all about EVD and these two suffixes offer higher EVD roll than any other. Though, if you find some with other suffixes that have decent stats like PABs, PMI etc. they do be nice too.

Since you're going Shade, try to get an Ethereal Mace.

AFAIK, Ethereal Mace is quite a luxury, even a crappy Mag. can go for like 1m or so. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by kos9494: May 26 2014, 08:36

AFAIK, Ethereal Mace is quite a luxury, even a crappy Mag. can go for like 1m or so. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

You don't want any burden with a shade build, as you said shade is all about evade.

Thanks to something for answering my previous questions.

I've decided on going Shade + 2H post level 200. What prefixes / suffixes are commonly used or thought to be good? Should I invest in a full Shade set (exquisite / magnificent) or just keep saving up until I can afford a new Mace or Estoc? (Current equips as seen above ... I have a magnificent mace of slaughter atm)

Thanks!

Since you're going Shade, try to get an Ethereal Mace.

^^^^this is probably the most important thing as far as 2H shade goes. since you have no parry, you need all the evade you can get from your shade armors, and 19+ burden just defeats the whole purpose of wearing shade. i wouldn't go with estoc unless snowflake is nice to you and gives you a peerless ethereal estoc of slaughter.
fleet and shadowdancer are the pieces you want for shade, but negation isn't that bad. prefixes don't matter much unless they're savage or agile.

to be honest though, 2H shade isn't that great in the long run. you'd probably be better off going with 1H heavy. it's alot safer, cheaper, and easier to run at higher difficulties than 2H shade. malkatmp and kos can give you more specifics whenever they show up about why since they both ran 2H shade for awhile.

This post has been edited by something: May 26 2014, 08:43

AFAIK, Ethereal Mace is quite a luxury, even a crappy Mag. can go for like 1m or so. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Yeah that's the main problem with 2H. It's hard style to play effectively with, so it needs good gears, but it suffers from very low drop rate (much less than than 1H), so its price is still unreasonably high. It's as demanding a style as mage, but nowhere near as effective. Frankly if mag ethereal mace is going for like 500k-, people wouldn't whine about how bad 2H sucks.

This post has been edited by holy_demon: May 26 2014, 08:50

So much advice already <3. Thanks again.

Alright, I'll keep Shadowcaster/Fleet Shade pieces in mind if I decide to run the build. Out of pure curiosity, is there a reason why legendary/peerless ethereal estocs of slaughter are so expensive (outside rarity and all)? I've heard that the weapon was the best overall for melee but never knew that 2H setups were not as effective as 1H setups. (Sad life for a 2H weapon lover lol).

I'll most likely follow your advice something. 2H shade build can always wait until later, when I'm higher level and can actually farm for enough credits to afford all these goodies.

What would everybody recommend to be the most cost effective but decent 1H weapon to go for - I'm guessing Clubs and Rapiers atm (kind of feels like the whole Estoc vs Mace decision)? Oh and would my goal at 200+ to get a magnificient+ set of power + slaughter? (heavy armor). I'm guessing PMI then ADB/PAB are the focus points here.

Thanks again everyone!

This post has been edited by wwgenesis: May 26 2014, 09:01

You don't want any burden with a shade build, as you said shade is all about evade.

You bet.
As much as I won't mind having an Elemental Rapier as offhand since 7 Burden can still be temporarily eradicated using Featherweight Shard, that ~15 burden of an Axe/Club is just too much to bear for me, let alone a Mace with ~25 Burden. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

^^^^this is probably the most important thing as far as 2H shade goes. since you have no parry, you need all the evade you can get from your shade armors, and 19+ burden just defeats the whole purpose of wearing shade. i wouldn't go with estoc unless snowflake is nice to you and gives you a peerless ethereal estoc of slaughter.
fleet and shadowdancer are the pieces you want for shade, but negation isn't that bad. prefixes don't matter much unless they're savage or agile.

to be honest though, 2H shade isn't that great in the long run. you'd probably be better off going with 1H heavy. it's alot safer, cheaper, and easier to run at higher difficulties than 2H shade. malkatmp and kos can give you more specifics whenever they show up about why since they both ran 2H shade for awhile.

It's all about how well your gears can be.
Heck if I have your Rapier (fancy parry) I might still be playing DW in every battle mode, not just SGs. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

So much advice already <3. Thanks again.

Alright, I'll keep Shadowcaster/Fleet Shade pieces in mind if I decide to run the build. Out of pure curiosity, is there a reason why legendary/peerless ethereal estocs of slaughter are so expensive (outside rarity and all)? I've heard that the weapon was the best overall for melee but never knew that 2H setups were not as effective as 1H setups. (Sad life for a 2H weapon lover lol).

I'll most likely follow your advice something. 2H shade build can always wait until later, when I'm higher level and can actually farm for enough credits to afford all these goodies.

What would everybody recommend to be the most cost effective but decent 1H weapon to go for - I'm guessing Clubs and Rapiers atm (kind of feels like the whole Estoc vs Mace decision)? Oh and would my goal at 200+ to get a magnificient+ set of power + slaughter? (heavy armor). I'm guessing PMI then ADB/PAB are the focus points here.

Thanks again everyone!

At Lv. 250~300, if you're doing almost anything at <Nintendo difficulty, using Estoc + Shade or Mace + Power can actually be "faster" than 1H/DW, or so is that in my experience due to mobs being very squishy that any sort of defensive measure isn't needed that much.

In terms of clearing speed, In my own experience:

High difficulty SG Arenas = 1H / DW
High difficulty for anything else= 1H

Low difficulty for SG Arenas = 1H / DW
Low difficulty for anything else= 2H

Club is mainly for DW, it doesn't sync well with 1H since counter attacks can semi-mass-stun pretty much like Mace. Rapier is probably the best with its Penetrating Armor proc. AND Parry Bonus. Axe is good too for its highest ADB of all 1H weapon but won't be as effective as Rapier in SG Arenas.

This post has been edited by kos9494: May 26 2014, 10:06

So much advice already <3. Thanks again.

Alright, I'll keep Shadowcaster/Fleet Shade pieces in mind if I decide to run the build. Out of pure curiosity, is there a reason why legendary/peerless ethereal estocs of slaughter are so expensive (outside rarity and all)? I've heard that the weapon was the best overall for melee but never knew that 2H setups were not as effective as 1H setups. (Sad life for a 2H weapon lover lol).

I'll most likely follow your advice something. 2H shade build can always wait until later, when I'm higher level and can actually farm for enough credits to afford all these goodies.

What would everybody recommend to be the most cost effective but decent 1H weapon to go for - I'm guessing Clubs and Rapiers atm (kind of feels like the whole Estoc vs Mace decision)? Oh and would my goal at 200+ to get a magnificient+ set of power + slaughter? (heavy armor). I'm guessing PMI then ADB/PAB are the focus points here.

Thanks again everyone!

yeah, 2H is basically an all star athlete after a career ending injury ATM.
rapier and axe are the weapons of choice for 1H, with shortsword being a distant 3rd. clubs aren't that useful since 1H already stuns mobs on counter attack and waki's damage is way too low.

don't worry about getting power armor just yet. at your level you don't have enough natural PMI/MMI to make it work that well for you. you might be able to get away with replacing your worst plate piece with a slaughter but that's about it.

someone correct me if i'm wrong. i'm not exactly an "expert" on 1H or heavy armor.

@kos if i didn't pick up that rapier randomly i'd have probably would have joined team 1H by now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by something: May 26 2014, 09:32

So much advice already <3. Thanks again.

Alright, I'll keep Shadowcaster/Fleet Shade pieces in mind if I decide to run the build. Out of pure curiosity, is there a reason why legendary/peerless ethereal estocs of slaughter are so expensive (outside rarity and all)? I've heard that the weapon was the best overall for melee but never knew that 2H setups were not as effective as 1H setups. (Sad life for a 2H weapon lover lol).

I'll most likely follow your advice something. 2H shade build can always wait until later, when I'm higher level and can actually farm for enough credits to afford all these goodies.

What would everybody recommend to be the most cost effective but decent 1H weapon to go for - I'm guessing Clubs and Rapiers atm (kind of feels like the whole Estoc vs Mace decision)? Oh and would my goal at 200+ to get a magnificient+ set of power + slaughter? (heavy armor). I'm guessing PMI then ADB/PAB are the focus points here.

Thanks again everyone!

imo, getting an ethereal Mace (low-mid 6 figures?) is better, but Non-ethereal elemental mace (20-50k for Exq? 100-200k for Mag?) is just fine. Piyin is selling this for 10k. though, you can try to get one for Free in the free shop. just look around for one that has the highest Damage + Str/Dex PAB + some elemental damage.

Rapier/Estoc has piercing which reduce monster defense by 25% per stack. Max @ 75% or 3 stacks. So the damage seems lower when you compare the Damage numbers, but Rapier/Estoc can do as much (or more) damage in battle. add in Ethereal which basically multiply the price by 10+.

for 1H+Heavy budget build, i guess Shortsword+ Emax force shield + power warding/balance/protection (or even plate if you're really low on budget). though, then slowly upgrade. to rapier/Axe + L/Mmax force shield forged + power slaughter/protection/plate.

ps. not everyone are millionaires billionaires like you people. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

edit: keep your current Mag Mace & use infusions + buying shade set. or switch to 1H+power. 2H+plate is not good. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This post has been edited by malkatmp: May 26 2014, 09:43

Out of pure curiosity, is there a reason why legendary/peerless ethereal estocs of slaughter are so expensive (outside rarity and all)? I've heard that the weapon was the best overall for melee but never knew that 2H setups were not as effective as 1H setups. (Sad life for a 2H weapon lover lol).

Any in-demand piece of equipment that's peerless or legendary with good rolls will command a high price simply due to rarity. As far as estocs are concerned, my take on it is that when two-handed rises again in terms of viability, it's possible that estocs will still be on top due to their PA proc. And I guess some people still play two-handed, so there's that as well.

don't worry about getting power armor just yet. at your level you don't have enough natural PMI/MMI to make it work that well for you. you might be able to get away with replacing your worst plate piece with a slaughter but that's about it.

someone correct me if i'm wrong. i'm not exactly an "expert" on 1H or heavy armor.

To what I know, with gc's mobs spawning around, you need as much ADB as you can for 1H especially at middle level (~200) since 1H weapons (Axe/Club aside) have below average ADB and it needs high proficiency to make 1H DMG ability a good source of ADB.. Shade is generally a good choice for ~200 since it doesn't just give ADB but also EVD. (ADB Bandwagon again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) )

IMO, Power, even with Warding/Protection, is still quite offensive. Each piece has only like ~2% more mitigation which isn't too much compared to Shade's EVD. A Shielding Plate is probably a better option for defense.

I'm not an expert, but I have faith in what my experience tells me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

This post has been edited by kos9494: May 26 2014, 09:50

Longsword + Leather is not bad IMO. And they are cheap. Mid level player can afford it.
But dun play on PF . (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Colman: May 26 2014, 09:57

Started an experiment: equipped a Nimble Rapier on my phase set and went into an SG arena.


Should be nice.

Started an experiment: equipped a Nimble Rapier on my phase set and went into an SG arena.
Should be nice.

Hmm, won't you be lacking damage or something?
Even on Shades the damage output of 1H is quite lackluster, using Nimble Rapier + Phase is just badass...

(Oh lord, ADB Bandwagon again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) )

Started an experiment: equipped a Nimble Rapier on my phase set and went into an SG arena.
Should be nice.

Why not battlecaster?

Rapier/Estoc has piercing which reduce monster defense by 25% per stack. Max @ 75% or 3 stacks. So the damage seems lower when you compare the Damage numbers, but Rapier/Estoc can do as much (or more) damage in battle. add in Ethereal which basically multiply the price by 10+.

for 1H+Heavy budget build, i guess Shortsword+ Emax force shield + power warding/balance/protection (or even plate if you're really low on budget). though, then slowly upgrade. to rapier/Axe + L/Mmax force shield forged + power slaughter/protection/plate.

A rapier of nimble (for SG) and shortsword of slaughter (for non SG) rotation is also good on low budget

Though for forging, rapier of slaughter still comes up on top due to its versatility. Axe needs a good forged shield, or shielding plate armor piece to work

The only style that can benefit from power of balance is DW. 1H doesn't benefit from accuracy or crit as much as defense or ADB

This post has been edited by holy_demon: May 26 2014, 12:07

Why not battlecaster?

Don't have a decent one.

And the experiment was a failure. Managed to (barely) finish, but the increased slowness allied to bad ADB (mostly due to low proficiency and my stats being mage-oriented for so long) means I'm not gonna try this again unless I find a good Battlecaster rapier.

Hmm, won't you be lacking damage or something?
Even on Shades the damage output of 1H is quite lackluster, using Nimble Rapier + Phase is just badass...

(Oh lord, ADB Bandwagon again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) )

Bandwagon for a reason.

PA doesn't help my spellcasting, bleargh.

My avatar is for another reason. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
You know, all of the loli are hidden somewhere.

don't know there in HK, but here also all the girls actually hide somewhere. for a boobie lover they are really bad times (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: May 26 2014, 13:55