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May 21 2014, 07:49
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(tempasdf @ May 21 2014, 00:27)  I can not understand why so much hatred for powerful monsters, they make HV more interesting if there were none, probably many would not have played this game already I dont want to sell Helmet, but how much do you think it is worth? Legendary Amber Shade Helmet of the FleetIt looks like end-game fleet for me LMAX damage and evade ^^but perks more relevant.. i guess upper Millions or tenths of Millions, but i don't know. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) QUOTE(Mikey_Mike @ May 21 2014, 04:07)  Well because I auto-cast spark of life i use it like this:  imo, Haste is a lot more useful for autocast than Sol. hell, i'll even put Protection or SS before Sol for 1H. also, don't IW stuff for the sake of IW stuff. grind more credits/lvls are a lot more useful then those IW lvls. though, IW becomes more useful when you're start doing SGs @PF. QUOTE(Hahhaa @ May 21 2014, 04:36)  What tempasdf said;
By then, you dont even need spark of life, except for emergency. Is there any need for Health pot? You might want to use Full-cure for emergency. And then, spark of life when full-cure on cool-down.
i usually bring 1 Health pot + 1 Spirit pot + 11 Mana pot. i'd imagine most players will bring more Spirit & No Health pot, but i like to bring one for those just in case scenarios and i'm too cheap to use Last elixirs. though, for SG it's 10 Mana + 3 Spirit.
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May 21 2014, 08:39
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TygerTyger
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ May 21 2014, 07:37)  What's the point of packing Greater pots into battle, replace them with Heroic and use the Greater to top up your tanks out of battle because you will never run out of potions, Heroic or otherwise.
Because Greater spirit pots fill me to full and mana almost do... And I use SOL because I half afk. lol. And that health pot is for last resort. This post has been edited by Mikey_Mike: May 21 2014, 08:46
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May 21 2014, 08:41
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zen_zen
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 20 2014, 22:49)  i guess upper Millions or tenths of Millions, but i don't know. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) imo, Haste is a lot more useful for autocast than Sol. hell, i'll even put Protection or SS before Sol for 1H. also, don't IW stuff for the sake of IW stuff. grind more credits/lvls are a lot more useful then those IW lvls. though, IW becomes more useful when you're start doing SGs @PF. i usually bring 1 Health pot + 1 Spirit pot + 11 Mana pot. i'd imagine most players will bring more Spirit & No Health pot, but i like to bring one for those just in case scenarios and i'm too cheap to use Last elixirs. though, for SG it's 10 Mana + 3 Spirit. malkat, you are completely beyond the 'just in case scenario'. I did the same somewhat beyond Lv 250 but after levelling some 25~30 levels without ever using the 'emergency' Health pot, I stopped carrying HHP altogether. Last Elixirs, I never had one until the last Easter Coin Event.
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May 21 2014, 08:46
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Colman
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QUOTE(Mikey_Mike @ May 21 2014, 14:39)  Because Greater spirit pots fill me to full and mana almost do...
And I use SOL because I half afk. lol.
And tat health pot is for last resort.
Half AFK players would like Spirit shield more than SoL because you need to heal after spark. If SoL go back to few patch ago, which recover 25% hp and 3 turn of high PMI/MMI, i would use it again. This post has been edited by Colman: May 21 2014, 08:47
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May 21 2014, 08:47
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TygerTyger
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 21 2014, 08:46)  Half AFK players would like Spirit shield more than SoL because you need to heal after spark.
I use a script that makes a popup when SOL pops. This post has been edited by Mikey_Mike: May 21 2014, 08:47
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May 21 2014, 08:48
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Colman
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QUOTE(Mikey_Mike @ May 21 2014, 14:47)  I use a script that makes a popup when SOL pops.
It is often overran, like the low hp/mp/sp warning, especially for high ping players.
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May 21 2014, 09:00
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TygerTyger
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 21 2014, 08:48)  It is often overran, like the low hp/mp/sp warning, especially for high ping players.
I use chrome and I can't click on anything else one the box pops up. Whats the difference between SOL and Spirit shield do they both just drain your spirit?
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May 21 2014, 09:09
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(Mikey_Mike @ May 20 2014, 21:00)  I use chrome and I can't click on anything else one the box pops up.
Whats the difference between SOL and Spirit shield do they both just drain your spirit?
SOL saves your life once if you are killed in return for consuming a chunk of spirit. Its predominately vital to mages who can get 1-2 hit easily if damage goes past their evasion. Spirit shield redirects damage to spirit and can even out how much damage you take. Spirit shield is predominately used by Melee for smoothing out large hits, as melee usually has high defense it doesn't drain spirit as fast. High level players 400+ start using both.
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May 21 2014, 09:13
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(Mikey_Mike @ May 20 2014, 23:39)  Because Greater spirit pots fill me to full and mana almost do...
And I use SOL because I half afk. lol.
And tat health pot is for last resort.
GSP may be enough but HMP will fill your tank with a bit to spare, which you could use to top up some of your buff/debuff while the potion is still active. Like I've said, you will never run out of them and by the time you reach Lvl 300, you'd probably have accumulated about 10,000 HMP. What would you do with them, sell them for peanuts or give them away to the newbs? The kind of emergency that you would use SoL to protect you from, simply do not occur at the beginning of an IW run. It takes about 25% of the runs or more before the mob strength reaches the maximum size. So for up to about 1/3 of the IW rounds, you are protecting yourself from a threat that's non-existent. Keep the SoL slotted for your peace of mind but take it out of IA and replace it with Haste or something more useful.
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May 21 2014, 10:03
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m118w11
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I mostly disagree with many of these opinions as you won't actually be affected in most cases. Unless you are running out of mana potions/spirit potions, you can run both if it makes you more comfortable. It is only in high difficulty marathons/grind fest clears where you really need to be efficient.
But I sympathise with your low effort playing, if you run gear like mine* you can do pfudor arenas without ever having to use cure or SoL. If only you could autocast regen and heart seeker then I could play without looking at the screen at all.
*ie. get some good protection gear and upgrade phys mit, a 33% base block shield will do, as I could do this before I changed shields
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May 21 2014, 11:49
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TygerTyger
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ May 21 2014, 09:13)  GSP may be enough but HMP will fill your tank with a bit to spare, which you could use to top up some of your buff/debuff while the potion is still active. Like I've said, you will never run out of them and by the time you reach Lvl 300, you'd probably have accumulated about 10,000 HMP. What would you do with them, sell them for peanuts or give them away to the newbs?
The kind of emergency that you would use SoL to protect you from, simply do not occur at the beginning of an IW run. It takes about 25% of the runs or more before the mob strength reaches the maximum size. So for up to about 1/3 of the IW rounds, you are protecting yourself from a threat that's non-existent. Keep the SoL slotted for your peace of mind but take it out of IA and replace it with Haste or something more useful.
Ah okay. What should I upgrade in my abilities? 
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May 21 2014, 12:09
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Mikey_Mike @ May 21 2014, 11:49)  Ah okay. What should I upgrade in my abilities?  even with that said, the best way to figure out which kinds you do need is to try by yourself: try to change all your greater into heroic and see if you are comfortably enough managing an overflow of mana as for abilities, you're way beyond me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) i'd only say stop to waste credits on assimilator (if you're that rich, there are many poors out there (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) and maybe another level of Luck of the Draw... [edit]: completely OT, but it seems i'm the 5th highest spammer in this topic (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: May 21 2014, 12:11
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May 21 2014, 12:20
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TygerTyger
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,952
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 21 2014, 12:09)  even with that said, the best way to figure out which kinds you do need is to try by yourself: try to change all your greater into heroic and see if you are comfortably enough managing an overflow of mana as for abilities, you're way beyond me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) i'd only say stop to waste credits on assimilator (if you're that rich, there are many poors out there (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) and maybe another level of Luck of the Draw... [edit]: completely OT, but it seems i'm the 5th highest spammer in this topic (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Is maxing out adept learner a good investment?
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May 21 2014, 12:28
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Mikey_Mike @ May 21 2014, 12:20)  Is maxing out adept learner a good investment?
don't really know, i'm stuck at 100 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) basically it raises the EXP you gain at the end of every match, so it depends how many time you want to remain at a certainlevel (yep, it may have its advantages (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ). however wiki suggests 100-120, so you should be already good to go...
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May 21 2014, 12:37
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hentai_fusion
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QUOTE(Hahhaa @ May 21 2014, 10:36)  By then, you dont even need spark of life, except for emergency. Is there any need for Health pot? You might want to use Full-cure for emergency. And then, spark of life when full-cure on cool-down.
HP pot is for when you just sparked and both cure and full cure is on cooldown.
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May 21 2014, 12:57
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n125
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ May 21 2014, 03:37)  HP pot is for when you just sparked and both cure and full cure is on cooldown.
Yep; happens more often than you'd think. At least to mages. Last Elixirs have saved my ass many, many times too, so I always carry one around. Everyone says that they're a bum Shrine reward, but I think they're great. Now Happy Pills, on the other hand... This post has been edited by n125: May 21 2014, 12:57
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May 21 2014, 13:15
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TopGun22
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Yup, I also have a last elixer on one slot just in case. Who has fallen asleep playing and almost died or died.
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May 21 2014, 13:32
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m118w11
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QUOTE(Mikey_Mike @ May 21 2014, 12:20)  Is maxing out adept learner a good investment?
It is cheaper to buy the hath perk than get the last ~80 levels (around even at adept learner 200). Then it is up to you.
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May 21 2014, 14:58
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Hahhaa
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QUOTE(m118w11 @ May 21 2014, 17:03)  I mostly disagree with many of these opinions as you won't actually be affected in most cases. Unless you are running out of mana potions/spirit potions, you can run both if it makes you more comfortable. It is only in high difficulty marathons/grind fest clears where you really need to be efficient.
But I sympathise with your low effort playing, if you run gear like mine* you can do pfudor arenas without ever having to use cure or SoL. If only you could autocast regen and heart seeker then I could play without looking at the screen at all.
*ie. get some good protection gear and upgrade phys mit, a 33% base block shield will do, as I could do this before I changed shields
Mostly agreeable (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) Well, different people will have different gears and opinions. Just pick up what relevant or test on your own. To quote another opinion; QUOTE(Colman @ May 3 2014, 22:12)  1H heavy do not need to care PMI at all. The shield will make you safe. You only need to rise your Attack damage. And magic resist/MMI to reduce one-shot.
Mostly agreeable as well (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Imo, PMI/MMI on armor isn't a big factor for 1h+heavy. I would choose protection gear over warding but good protection gear are expensive. I'm poor. If i gonna make effort, i rather get better block ie, better shield or shielding armor. Right now I'm not worry getting one-shot thanks to spirit shield. Still relied on Cure but I blame that on shield. For reference; with my gears and 300 proficiency for 1h and Heavy armor. Defense 63.2% physical mitigation 65.5% magical mitigation 0% evade chance 42.5% block chance 41.8% parry chance 12% resist chance On other topic; QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ May 21 2014, 19:37)  HP pot is for when you just sparked and both cure and full cure is on cooldown.
QUOTE(n125 @ May 21 2014, 19:57)  Yep; happens more often than you'd think. At least to mages. Last Elixirs have saved my ass many, many times too, so I always carry one around. Everyone says that they're a bum Shrine reward, but I think they're great. Now Happy Pills, on the other hand...
I just use defend. but that rarely happen. But then i'm only using 1h and spirit shield very recently. QUOTE(TopGun22 @ May 21 2014, 20:15)  Yup, I also have a last elixer on one slot just in case. Who has fallen asleep playing and almost died or died.
Special case (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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