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post May 17 2014, 15:37
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QUOTE(AIDSFART2011 @ May 17 2014, 06:23) *

Thanks for all the help!
Though I guess I will still use the mace I've sent to Scremaz because, well, it was handled with care and stained with my blood.
But it's great to have another mace so I can attempt Item World and level that up further.

@LostLogia4: I am sure to check the settings frequently in case I get a new title, thanks!


At your level you should be able to unlock the Destined title once you clear the Level 140 arena challenge. That gives +8% damage and +2% evade.
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post May 17 2014, 15:40
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Hmm, with a hallowed staff I'd say anything but Archmage potency goes (unless if you have a Destruction staff). Personally I prefer Penetrator -> Spellweaver -> Economizer -> Annihilator & Archmage.

I have a destruction one http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8e11058baa , I thought about switching it to that dropped one http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4547975d23 but the damage is half of that lol, so it seems a bad decision for me,

can we do a test drive to hit one mob and count damage - would that be fair (like - is damage from spells are randomized if not resisted or something?) - wanna try hitting trio and tree one day with one staff and other day with another staff - or spaghetti guy


what is that magic score script thing people talk about and why is it so much better than human thinking?

cuz wiki advice says elemental staff is better than destruction one if you use just spells of one element. - is it fully true?

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post May 17 2014, 15:41
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IMO nothing can win 5 Econimizer. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 17 2014, 15:42
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IMO nothing can win 5 Econimizer.

a guy who doesn't care about mana totally wins it xD

<- I just chew pots, - works fine for me.
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post May 17 2014, 15:48
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QUOTE(Owyn @ May 17 2014, 22:42) *

a guy who doesn't care about mana totally wins it xD

<- I just chew pots, - works fine for me.

Yeah, if you can clear IWBTHfest/PFUDORfest without it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 17 2014, 15:51
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 17 2014, 17:48) *

Yeah, if you can clear IWBTHfest/PFUDORfest without it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Never cleared a fest, nor played one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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post May 17 2014, 15:52
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 17 2014, 21:41) *
IMO nothing can win 5 Econimizer. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
that kind of opinion comes with Crystkat-kun (crystminers) really, what with doing hundreds if not thousands of rounds.

QUOTE(Owyn @ May 17 2014, 21:40) *
what is that magic score script thing people talk about and why is it so much better than human thinking?
It calculates you magic scores after the EDBs and tells you which one is the most powerful staff around? I dunno, you gotta ask the scriptwriters and other mages for that.

QUOTE(Owyn @ May 17 2014, 21:40) *
cuz wiki advice says elemental staff is better than destruction one if you use just spells of one element. - is it fully true?
Mainly because you can do away with binding of destruction's in favor of bindings of heimdalls I think...?

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post May 17 2014, 16:09
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QUOTE(AIDSFART2011 @ May 17 2014, 15:23) *

Thanks for all the help!
Though I guess I will still use the mace I've sent to Scremaz because, well, it was handled with care and stained with my blood.
But it's great to have another mace so I can attempt Item World and level that up further.

from now on i want to be called 'the trusthy caretaker of little maces' (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 17 2014, 16:11
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 17 2014, 22:09) *

from now on i want to be called 'the trusthy caretaker of little maces' (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I will think of you when I next bring my mace out for some proficiency levelling. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 17 2014, 16:15
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 17 2014, 22:09) *
from now on i want to be called 'the trusthy caretaker of little maces' (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Perhaps I should call you Mace-kun? (just kidding) If only I have one to swing around...
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post May 17 2014, 16:22
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QUOTE(Owyn @ May 17 2014, 21:42) *

a guy who doesn't care about mana totally wins it xD

<- I just chew pots, - works fine for me.


If you can finish grindfests or PFUDOR SG arenas without Ether Tapping, then yes, you can indeed not care about Economizer.

If not, then Economizer 5 is the best.
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post May 17 2014, 16:22
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Trusty Mace-kun (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Personally, I prefer having a Focus staff and IW it for Spellweaver than to buy an overly expensive Destruction staff. Still looking for a Mag+ Hallowed Oak Staff of Focus, haven't seen one in an equip shop or auction yet.
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post May 17 2014, 16:52
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Magic Score is the indicator showing pure firepower.
You can calculate your Magic Score manually for yourself like this:

First, let's say "Base Power" = MDB * (1 + EDB/100)
Magic Score = (Base Power * (1 - crit/100)) + (Base Power * crit/100 * (1 + crit dmg bonus/100))

For ignoring the exact crit dmg bonus (= 50%), the simplied fomula would be
MDB * (1 + EDB/100) * (1 + crit/200)

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post May 17 2014, 17:18
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Does score thing not count anything else (like stats)? it says this exq staff http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=432125358d without int is better than this mag one http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4547975d23
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post May 17 2014, 18:08
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QUOTE(Owyn @ May 18 2014, 00:18) *

Does score thing not count anything else (like stats)? it says this exq staff http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=432125358d without int is better than this mag one http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4547975d23

"MDB" is already counting your stats like WIS and INT.
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post May 17 2014, 21:11
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"MDB" is already counting your stats like WIS and INT.

so should I ask more money for exq. one then when selling?
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post May 17 2014, 21:33
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I have nothing towards maging, how hard is it to dark mage? I've been thinking about doing it since my drops ended up with a lot o fenrir stuff.
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post May 17 2014, 22:04
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QUOTE(Owyn @ May 18 2014, 04:11) *

so should I ask more money for exq. one then when selling?

Just install the Magic Score script and use it to compare the final score. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
The higher, the better, of course.
But remember, as I said Magic Score shows the pure firepower. It does not show other things like the cast speed, MC, and defensive stats.
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post May 17 2014, 22:19
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Just install the Magic Score script and use it to compare the final score.

that's how I knew the scores of two staffs above - by installing it ;p

so pure firepower isn't pure price?
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