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post May 17 2014, 02:24
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ May 17 2014, 08:10) *

Elem maging does sound easier (or faster) because of the lesser MP costs but I don't really have any MP problems while doing it. The Mana gems + Riddlemasters + the occasional Ether Tap is enough. I usually end up with 2-4 Mana pots by the end of Hellfest.


holy mage only becomes good at level 400+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 17 2014, 04:09
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ May 17 2014, 06:30) *
If you have the time, then I'd say max your main element + all the others. Grind them all, even Staff and Deprecating prof.
Problem is that I usually don't have time for that... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Also, I don't recall Elemental Proficiency gives much of any benefits after the "darkmage-nerfing" patch really.

QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ May 17 2014, 06:30) *
Hmm... Actually, I just whack them when I know they'll die in 1 hit, CM or not, just to save a bit of MP.
Most of them. I use a script to highlight/color-code the annoying ones so I can cast Imperil without losing too much focus on the show/movie I'm watching.
Must've been a dream to be a holy mage at level 450 with perhaps forged legendary phase armaments... did you use Spellspam for that?
Also, is it true that a Level 450 mage with leg-grade armaments can lolpwn everything?

QUOTE(botafogo @ May 17 2014, 05:57) *
But, aren't the monsters capped at the level/difficult of the player fighting them?
Dunno about you but I've met the notorious "In Memory of Dark Mages" regularly at Hell difficulty now, at least one of them every 10-20 rounds whenever I play at Hell difficulty or higher, in fact.

As for calculations itself, well, according to the info, it's:
((Player's current level + Monster PL adjustment) ^ 1.27) - 247
At PFUDOR difficulty, you'll be regularly meeting monsters that you'll be meeting regularly 125 levels higher than what you'll encounter at Normal difficulty.
((143 + 125) ^ 1.27) - 247 = 965
((278 + 125) ^ 1.27) - 247 = 1788

QUOTE(IExistHere @ May 17 2014, 07:21) *
The weaknesses script I got no clue what that one is.
That one's the HVFS Battling script written by freakerup iirc. Quite useful for a mage (if only elemental explosions is nowhere as powerful as it used to be now), except that you can't open the equip popup for some reason, so you'll need to write exclude function to limit the script to battles.

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holy mage only becomes good at level 400+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Exactly... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I learned this the hard way really...
Hmm, maybe I'll just keep using my freyr mage setup for the IWBTH DwD runs...

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post May 17 2014, 04:17
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ May 17 2014, 06:10) *

Haven't tried Elemental maging with Hellfest yet, but I can easily clear Hellfest with Holy.
Elem maging does sound easier (or faster) because of the lesser MP costs but I don't really have any MP problems while doing it. The Mana gems + Riddlemasters + the occasional Ether Tap is enough. I usually end up with 2-4 Mana pots by the end of Hellfest.

Most of the mage in my level range cannot one-shot 50%+ thing in Hell, but can be one-shoted by mobs. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
The longer casting time of holy is a pain.

I know it is mostly the equipment problem. However, not that many players (excluding bots (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) here are rich enough to forge, and have worth forging set of phase armor.
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post May 17 2014, 04:30
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As has already been threatened, i recorded another run.

Anyway, here is another one for the terminally bored:
Full SG Marathon@PF
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post May 17 2014, 04:43
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Realized that I need more firepower to beat PFUDOR DwD in reasonable time with my Wind Mage setting. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

QUOTE(simrock87 @ May 17 2014, 11:30) *

As has already been threatened, i recorded another run.

Anyway, here is another one for the terminally bored:
Full SG Marathon@PF

You have had a tough job finishing the record. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I envy your ping. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) It seems that you have 4 turns / sec, doesn't it?

BTW why don't you use 1H skill combo (tier 1 - tier 2) instead of using OFC when there's 1~2 SGs?

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post May 17 2014, 04:55
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 17 2014, 04:43) *

Realized that I need more firepower to beat PFUDOR DwD in reasonable time with my Wind Mage setting. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
You have had a tough job finishing the record. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I envy your ping. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) It seems that you have 4 turns / sec, doesn't it?

BTW why don't you use 1H skill combo (tier 1 - tier 2) instead of using OFC when there's 1~2 SGs?

The most painful part was youtube processing (20hours >.<)
Yeah, somewhere between 2-4 turns/s on average i'd say.

Two reasons i use OFC:
1. The normal mob skills hit like a truck and drain too much spirit/mana, so i try to get rid of them before they start casting (around turn 8-10)
2. I'm lazy and just repeat the same thing every round ^^
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post May 17 2014, 05:15
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ May 17 2014, 11:55) *

The most painful part was youtube processing (20hours >.<)
Yeah, somewhere between 2-4 turns/s on average i'd say.

Two reasons i use OFC:
1. The normal mob skills hit like a truck and drain too much spirit/mana, so i try to get rid of them before they start casting (around turn 8-10)
2. I'm lazy and just repeat the same thing every round ^^

1. Ah, agreed. Normal mobs are more horrible on PFUDOR...
I suggest get better shield with forging (total 55%+ block) so that you can equip 5 power slaughters to have more AD, but it needs more level I guess (360+, probably 380+).
Or use Weaken, but it may make much troublesome.
2. I'm lazy, too. Sometimes I don't use any skill or OFC, watching animation and just up and down the mouse. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 17 2014, 05:56
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ May 17 2014, 04:30) *

As has already been threatened, i recorded another run.

Anyway, here is another one for the terminally bored:
Full SG Marathon@PF


it's here. time to take notes again. Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 17 2014, 06:40
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i'm not that familiar with phase, but this is a troll drop, right?

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23 5 Mini Mechazawa dropped [Magnificent smax-0.7 edb Phase Shoes of Niflheim]

why.........
INT and WIS aren't bad, but still.....

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post May 17 2014, 06:52
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QUOTE(something @ May 17 2014, 12:40) *

i'm not that familiar with phase, but this is a troll drop, right?

The evade and EDB rolls are bleh... my condolences. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post May 17 2014, 07:01
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Pwned those critters again in PFUDOR REs. The Sleep spell works like a charm to me.
Guess I'll up the depreciating and maybe supportive spells for future PFUDOR runs...

QUOTE(simrock87 @ May 17 2014, 10:30) *
As has already been threatened, i recorded another run.

Anyway, here is another one for the terminally bored:
Full SG Marathon@PF
Uh, threatened? Anyway, I've prepared a torrent for it, since I've downloaded it into the seedbox and couldn't quite download it yet... This also means I won't be able to watch DAL episodes until next Monday (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Attached File  simrock_pfudor_sg_arena_runs.mp4.torrent ( 125.05k ) Number of downloads: 21

Btw, I got my very first Crystallized Phazon from one of my mons... a PL293 humanoid monster.
Not gonna sell or use the phazon that my monster worked hard to earn though... guess I'll save it for a leg phase armament...

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post May 17 2014, 07:20
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ May 17 2014, 12:55) *

The most painful part was youtube processing (20hours >.<)
Yeah, somewhere between 2-4 turns/s on average i'd say.

Two reasons i use OFC:
1. The normal mob skills hit like a truck and drain too much spirit/mana, so i try to get rid of them before they start casting (around turn 8-10)
2. I'm lazy and just repeat the same thing every round ^^


One trick to make it faster is switching between the SG instead of outright killing them one by one, you'd have more OC to spam 1h skills as soon as they're off cooldown. I notice that your speed is significantly lower when you're killing the last SG of each rounds (since your OC gain pretty much drops down to 10OC/turn).
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post May 17 2014, 07:34
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 17 2014, 07:01) *

Uh, threatened?

Guess that one got lost in translation, too early in the morning, can't think in english yet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 17 2014, 07:20) *

One trick to make it faster is switching between the SG instead of outright killing them one by one, you'd have more OC to spam 1h skills as soon as they're off cooldown. I notice that your speed is significantly lower when you're killing the last SG of each rounds (since your OC gain pretty much drops down to 10OC/turn).

I'll try that next time, sounds promising.
During the 1 & 2SG rounds it takes agonizingly longer because i'm focusing as much as possible to cut down on MP potions, but seeing that i still had some left over at the end i'll probably move the potion chugging further forward.
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post May 17 2014, 08:57
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i'm not that familiar with phase, but this is a troll drop, right?


I know exactly how you feel... http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2e5a27ef30

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post May 17 2014, 09:00
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QUOTE(Kazetenshi @ May 17 2014, 14:57) *
I have a trolly phase of niflheim as well... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
So much for a mag-grade phase...

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post May 17 2014, 09:07
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 16 2014, 22:20) *

One trick to make it faster is switching between the SG instead of outright killing them one by one, you'd have more OC to spam 1h skills as soon as they're off cooldown. I notice that your speed is significantly lower when you're killing the last SG of each rounds (since your OC gain pretty much drops down to 10OC/turn).


It's good for mages to similarly switch between schoolgirls if they're spread out enough that one is out of reach of T1 and/or T2 spells. Get one schoolgirl down to 10-20% HP and then switch to the other. All of your spells will be concentrated on the new schoolgirl while the other one will be finished off by T3s.
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post May 17 2014, 09:24
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 17 2014, 17:00) *

I have a trolly phase of niflheim as well... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
So much for a mag-grade phase...


Mag-grade power slaughter
Magnificent Onyx Power Gauntlets of Slaughter

Look at the troll
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post May 17 2014, 09:42
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 17 2014, 02:24) *

holy mage only becomes good at level 400+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Elem is only good at 450+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post May 17 2014, 10:14
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 17 2014, 15:24) *
Mag-grade power slaughter
Magnificent Onyx Power Gauntlets of Slaughter

Look at the troll
Ah, yeah, might as well be a exq-grade...

QUOTE(danixxx @ May 17 2014, 15:42) *
Elem is only good at 450+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
...at clearing SG arenas. What, is there something that's only good at Level 500?

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post May 17 2014, 10:18
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 17 2014, 10:14) *

...at clearing SG arenas


Never, there is no level where you would prefer an elem set over an holy set for schoolgirls.

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What, is there something that's only good at Level 500?


Nope..
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