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Melee sounds very complex

i'm probably just over complicating things. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

melee is simple, Max ADB & whack/OFC enemies to death.

Higher the level, longer the fight. Because monster effective hp (hp/(1-PMI) ) grow much faster than ABD of player. Even with PA, hp of the monsters still grow faster than melees adb.
To prevent mana run out, you need to increase your damage as much as possible.
Good thing about higher level is that your defense is better so you only need to worry about damage.

So, get some power slaughters. Piece of missing END is ok if you are not dying. Then, get a good weapon if you do not have one. Next, go for DD. Followed by others hath damage perks. smile.gif

Forgot to add my ADB is at 5463 with 35 % crit.

This post has been edited by HNTI: May 14 2014, 16:55

i'm probably just over complicating things. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

melee is simple, Max ADB & whack/OFC enemies to death.

Nothing is so simple against SG arenas, I'm afraid.

Forgot to add my ADB is at 5463 with 35 % crit.

Wait, wait, wait, how much ADB did you get from the armor again? Is it just me or does the power armor's ADB doubles once you reached Level 320 or something? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

fyi, from what I see, all your power armor's ADB combined is +147.58+208.66+343.15+208.75+132.34+1040.48

Btw, does Imperil reduces physical mitigation as well? Not that it's very practical for anyone's lugging heavy armors anyways.

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 14 2014, 17:50

Forgot to add my ADB is at 5463 with 35 % crit.

I think you should have ~6000 ADB with 1H power at your level.

Nothing is so simple against SG arenas, I'm afraid.

i guess you'll probably hv to min-max a bit to finish SG, i've found 3 SP is good enough to do 1-2SG arenas@PF without having to heavily rely on Spirit Drain. also, 10 mana is good enough & more versatile, because you can always get more HP &SP with MP, but not the other way around.

though, i guess mages are a lot different and supposingly hv endless mana (?!). or at least, don't hv to deal with crazy amount of interference.

Wait, wait, wait, how much ADB did you get from the armor again? Is it just me or does the power armor's ADB doubles once you reached Level 320 or something? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

fyi, from what I see, all your power armor's ADB combined is +147.58+208.66+343.15+208.75+132.34+1040.48

lvl scaling & a lot more Stats pts. on my end, it's more like ~173+246+405+246+156. i'd imagine it'll be more on HNTI. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Btw, does Imperil reduces physical mitigation as well? Not that it's very practical for anyone's lugging heavy armors anyways.

yes, it's quite useful for Axe (or Mace?) on bosses. though, but for Rapier, because of Penetrating Armor.

though, i guess mages are a lot different and supposingly hv endless mana (?!).

i'm building a phase set, without even slotting any staff/cloth ability i am a 1550MP/0ITR, while my heavy set is around 1100MP/135ITR (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: May 14 2014, 19:11

i'm building a phase set, without even slotting any ability i am a 1550MP/0ITR, while my heavy set is around 1100MP/135ITR (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

My arcanist set gives me about the same mp tank. But the ability is slotted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

i'm building a phase set, without even slotting any ability i am a 1550MP/0ITR, while my heavy set is around 1100MP/135ITR (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

However, MP still run out fast for most of the mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

though, i guess mages are a lot different and supposingly hv endless mana (?!). or at least, don't hv to deal with crazy amount of interference.

Only Blacksmith-kun had anywhere near that supposed endless mana, mainly cuz he only needs Imperil to blow up all the mobs. For me I'll need MP for various other depreciating spells like Weaken, Sleep and Magnet, didn't bother with others unless they're asleep cuz I can't take on these brutal mons for long.

Also, IA4 is borderline a requirement for a mage really to challenge the PFUDOR SG arenas comfortably imo, except that it costs the same as Effluent Ether.

However, MP still run out fast for most of the mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Especially during long attrition battles like SG arenas and hellfesting.

i'm building a phase set, without even slotting any ability i am a 1550MP/0ITR, while my heavy set is around 1100MP/135ITR (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Which element? Anyway, my MP is 1485 on Tier 8 MP Tank (an afterthought-slotted ability), with 306+232=540 Wisdom, with Cloth MP it's 1655MP.

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 14 2014, 19:10

My arcanist set gives me about the same mp tank. But the ability is slotted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

lol, my bad. i meant MP tank slotted, but no cloth/staff ones (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Which element? Anyway, my MP is 1485 on Tier 8 MP Tank (an afterthought-slotted ability), with 306+232=540 Wisdom, with Cloth MP it's 1655MP.

wind. i have an ost also for this but i will spare you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
WIS at 308+255+8 = 571; i'l try with cloth whenever i'll have a 20ish or so AP to throw away (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

However, MP still run out fast for most of the mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

btw, which suffix may be better? focus, destruction or freyr?

However, MP still run out fast for most of the mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

plus to that - on PFUDOR - spirit runs out fast for mages via SS (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

What is the Forbidden proficiency required to enable Spirit Theft?

What is the Forbidden proficiency required to enable Spirit Theft?

I don't think you need any proficiencies for it. Just the ability itself, ripened soul and drain

yes, it's quite useful for Axe (or Mace?) on bosses. though, but for Rapier, because of Penetrating Armor.

Wait, imperil isn't needed when using rapiers? I feel like I've been wasting mana all along...

lvl scaling & a lot more Stats pts. on my end, it's more like ~173+246+405+246+156. i'd imagine it'll be more on HNTI.

More like :

194 + 274 + 451 + 274 + 174 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I don't think you need any proficiencies for it. Just the ability itself, ripened soul and drain

'just' means about at least 30AP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Wait, imperil isn't needed when using rapiers? I feel like I've been wasting mana all along...

it may be useful, but surely not needed, since PA is already a good process. i didn't note so much of a difference when i used it (i eventually removed all AP from Imperil abilities (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ), and it seems to me that Spirit Stance + rapier is good enough to go

This post has been edited by Scremaz: May 14 2014, 20:34

I don't think you need any proficiencies for it. Just the ability itself, ripened soul and drain

I have Ripened Soul, Better Drain, Faster Drain and Spirit Theft all slotted, I have the Drain spell slotted in the Character > Settings > Quick Bar Slots but when I cast Drain, I recover a bit of Health.

I have Ripened Soul, Better Drain, Faster Drain and Spirit Theft all slotted, I have the Drain spell slotted in the Character > Settings > Quick Bar Slots but when I cast Drain, I recover a bit of Health.

Ripened Soul hasn't 100% chance to process...

This post has been edited by Scremaz: May 14 2014, 21:31

I have Ripened Soul, Better Drain, Faster Drain and Spirit Theft all slotted, I have the Drain spell slotted in the Character > Settings > Quick Bar Slots but when I cast Drain, I recover a bit of Health.

You need to cast drain when rippened soul has proc'ed after casting a dark spell to trigger the spirit theft.


This post has been edited by boulay: May 14 2014, 21:40

How many credits would it take to get to 300 adept learning from 180?