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post May 14 2014, 11:43
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 14 2014, 16:35) *
true. though, Elven Ranger & some others are buying them in WTB section. maybe they know something we don't know. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Uh, I have a clue what they are... They're... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

To put it bluntly, they're equip equivalent of monster chows to be introduced next patch. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Also, I've managed to dug a few things out about Admin-kun's upcoming patch here.



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post May 14 2014, 11:59
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 14 2014, 11:43) *

Uh, I have a clue what they are... They're... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

To put it bluntly, they're equip equivalent of monster chows to be introduced next patch. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Finally an use for all the bazaar fodder we get all day long, weeee \o/

I can't wait to see the whine on the update thread (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 14 2014, 12:20
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QUOTE(pervdiz @ May 14 2014, 17:59) *
Finally an use for all the bazaar fodder we get all day long, weeee \o/

I can't wait to see the whine on the update thread (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Admin-kun had probably thought of this a whileback, but the trigger here is Troller-kun whines about too many GP, too many Haths, and too many credits in the wake of a 8-digit figure phase armament in an auction.

QUOTE(gc00018 @ May 3 2014, 21:21) *
I just feel there are too much currency in the market now.

Many equipment sold at the price 20m 30m 50m...

Inflation? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


And I throw this in just to show how much of a Troller-kun he is:
QUOTE(gc00018 @ May 4 2014, 16:49) *
Not only repair costs.

I think we still need more way to deal with too much hath\ materials and so on.

Just like lottery for GP, trainning for credits, perk for hath.

More way to consume everything~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I do the same. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
If we can't have ways to spend them, what's the mean of holding tons of creidts as well as hath\materils or anything else?
Certainly, that's quite a whiner considering all the sinks there already is. And like the Admin-kun he is, 10B would certainly hear his whine out on this count, and that's how the repair cost bombshell came in.

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post May 14 2014, 12:33
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 14 2014, 12:20) *

Admin-kun had probably thought of this a whileback, but the trigger here is Troller-kun whines about too many GP, too many Haths, and too many credits in the wake of a 8-digit figure phase armament in an auction.
And I throw this in just to show how much of a Troller-kun he is:


though, i find it interesting that many High Level players are dumping Haths & hoarding Credits in the pass 8-9hrs. at one point, Hath is exchanged at 8,000 credits with ~11,000 volume in a 8hr period. yesterday (or iirc the pass few weeks), it's closer to 8,800-9000c/hath with ~2-3k volume in a 8hr period.

it's not going in the lottery, so speculations? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post May 14 2014, 14:28
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 14 2014, 00:33) *

though, i find it interesting that many High Level players are dumping Haths & hoarding Credits in the pass 8-9hrs. at one point, Hath is exchanged at 8,000 credits with ~11,000 volume in a 8hr period. yesterday (or iirc the pass few weeks), it's closer to 8,800-9000c/hath with ~2-3k volume in a 8hr period.

it's not going in the lottery, so speculations? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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I'm doing it for the lols. There has been a high volume of trading so possible someone is skimming the market for the 2-5% profit. Possibly Tenboro let something slip about the next patch, last time people sent the price up to 13k lol.
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post May 14 2014, 14:46
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 14 2014, 20:33) *

though, i find it interesting that many High Level players are dumping Haths & hoarding Credits in the pass 8-9hrs. at one point, Hath is exchanged at 8,000 credits with ~11,000 volume in a 8hr period. yesterday (or iirc the pass few weeks), it's closer to 8,800-9000c/hath with ~2-3k volume in a 8hr period.

it's not going in the lottery, so speculations? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)



I think people are just spreading their assets around to lower risk. Hath price is dropping probably because H@Hers (who generate most of the Hath) outnumber grinders (who generate most of the credits)

Im hoarding Hath, btw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 14 2014, 15:17
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ May 14 2014, 14:28) *

I'm doing it for the lols. There has been a high volume of trading so possible someone is skimming the market for the 2-5% profit. Possibly Tenboro let something slip about the next patch, last time people sent the price up to 13k lol.


i'd wish i'm that wealthy. selling hundreds-thousands of haths & have ~11% effect on the market. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

nothing that i do matters to anything. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 14 2014, 14:46) *

I think people are just spreading their assets around to lower risk. Hath price is dropping probably because H@Hers (who generate most of the Hath) outnumber grinders (who generate most of the credits)

Im hoarding Hath, btw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


diversify?! though, it seems like a very sudden move from a handful of guys.

i understand the whole passive vs active income thing (ie the H@H people vs the grinders) & i'd imagine 10B might do something to address this. though, i don't think 10B will actually create something drastic that'll tank the Hath price, because H@H is partly the site's backbone. however, hopefully, boosting the grinders & increase stuff (equip drops/binding from monsters/etc).

anyway, i'm too poor to do anything about it now. i guess i'll just sit tight, drink another beer & read some more hentai. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post May 14 2014, 15:19
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 14 2014, 15:17) *

anyway, i'm too poor to do anything about it now. i guess i'll just sit tight, drink another beer & read some more hentai. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

let's say that you're happy enough with that rather than too poor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 14 2014, 15:33
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Just wondering as the price of hath is falls (yay! as no H@Her). Which amongst these remaining for me perks might get me a bit closer to clearing these damn SG runs (still didn't managed to clear even 110 arena despite of 367 lvl.)

1) 10 %+ DMG
2) +25 % mana pool
3) IA4 (in the long run)?
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post May 14 2014, 15:37
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QUOTE(HNTI @ May 14 2014, 09:33) *

Just wondering as the price of hath is falls (yay! as no H@Her). Which amongst these remaining for me perks might get me a bit closer to clearing these damn SG runs (still didn't managed to clear even 110 arena despite of 367 lvl.)

1) 10 %+ DMG
2) +25 % mana pool
3) IA4 (in the long run)?


4) other

your best best is probably VV. out of curiousity, what style do you use?
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post May 14 2014, 15:53
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your best best is probably VV. out of curiousity, what style do you use?


I already have VV & RR. I go 1h + shield + heavy power of prot 4/5 + power of slaughter. * sigh *

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post May 14 2014, 16:09
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QUOTE(HNTI @ May 14 2014, 15:53) *

I already have VV & RR. I go 1h + shield + heavy power of prot 4/5 + power of slaughter. * sigh *

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i think it's a matter of method than equipment.

personally, keep Haste/SS/Protection/Regen/Heartseaker on always. skip SoL & SV to save mana. Bring 10 heroic mana potions +3 heroic spirit potions.

for the first SG arena:
first 54rds of normal guys: just whack them down one by one on spirit stance.
iirc, on rd55 onward, you'll encounter your SGs & you'll just need to stack 3PA on SG then OFC. if you don't hv OFC, i've found Shield Bash =>vital strike => keep whacking SG => Shield Bash => vital strike will kill SG@PF.

it's pretty much the same with the 2nd SG arena@PF. though, would you mind posting your stats/equip? also, maybe need some more elemental mitigation (Fire/Cold/Holy/Dark with ~12+%)? if you don't want to IW everything, you can use infusions to do a test run first.

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post May 14 2014, 16:13
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QUOTE(HNTI @ May 14 2014, 21:53) *
I already have VV & RR. I go 1h + shield + heavy power of prot 4/5 + power of slaughter. * sigh *
Get better equip/shield and forge them? Did you have OFC, btw?
As for SG arenas, imo custom monsters are more deadly than SGs, as simrock would attest.

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post May 14 2014, 16:22
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As for SG arenas, imo custom monsters are more deadly than SGs, as simrock would attest.


It's not In memory on... that kills me, it's mana combined with spirit, but mostly mana consumption.
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post May 14 2014, 16:26
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 14 2014, 19:33) *

though, i find it interesting that many High Level players are dumping Haths & hoarding Credits in the pass 8-9hrs. at one point, Hath is exchanged at 8,000 credits with ~11,000 volume in a 8hr period. yesterday (or iirc the pass few weeks), it's closer to 8,800-9000c/hath with ~2-3k volume in a 8hr period.

it's not going in the lottery, so speculations? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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Panic selling! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
Well, if 10b (planned) implementation work, credits will be more valuable in the future. Hath constantly lower anyway and with no plan to do anything about it, it best not hoarding Hath atm. so SELL SELL SELL (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post May 14 2014, 16:30
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Can anyone please tell me what's this fuss about "Find Upgrade" that's going on in the pony thread??
I couldn't make out what the hell was going on even after reading all those posts! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post May 14 2014, 16:35
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QUOTE(HNTI @ May 14 2014, 16:22) *

It's not In memory on... that kills me, it's mana combined with spirit, but mostly mana consumption.


simrock87 mentioned he will upload a video of him doing DwD@PF in here later, because he's quite busy now. probably, this weekend. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

also, i think shadow veil is actually very bad for mana consumption & IA3-4 might not actually do you any good. maybe Haste/SS/Protection for all your IA slots.

then early on, you do have to conserve mana, but don't use focus. though, whenever you use a mana potion, Use spirit drain x2. generally, i can pop the potion => Ragnarok => Drain => kill off everything => next rd => Ragnarok => Drain & end up with almost full MP. usually, do this with Kotana, because she's the weakest, but you'll probably need to shield bash (stun)=>vital strike her first. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(HNTI @ May 14 2014, 16:33) *

A for gears :

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Block : 47.5 %
Parry : 44.1 %
PMI : 70.3
MMI : 65.9

Resistances : +25 % Fire from shield + what's on gear atm => next to nothing.


you've much better stuff than i do, my stats are lower than yours by 4-6% each. but imo, you do need more mitigation. especially, Cold/Holy/Dark with 12%+. those mitigation saves your SP & MP which makes you last longer.

though, Colman mentioned something about hving 50% block makes things easier, though, i'd imagine a crit from SG can still take off ~100-130SP away from you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 14 2014, 10:35) *

simrock87 mentioned he will upload a video of him doing DwD@PF in here later, because he's quite busy now. probably, this weekend. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

also, i think shadow veil is actually very bad for mana consumption & IA3-4 might not actually do you any good. maybe Haste/SS/Protection for all your IA slots.

then early on, you do have to conserve mana, but don't use focus. though, whenever you use a mana potion, Use spirit drain. generally, i can pop the potion => Ragnarok => Drain => kill off everything => next rd => Ragnarok => Drain & end up with almost full MP. usually, do this with Kotana, because she's the weakest, but you'll probably need to shield bash (stun)=>vital strike her first. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)



Melee sounds very complex
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post May 14 2014, 16:38
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QUOTE(HNTI @ May 14 2014, 21:33) *

Just wondering as the price of hath is falls (yay! as no H@Her). Which amongst these remaining for me perks might get me a bit closer to clearing these damn SG runs (still didn't managed to clear even 110 arena despite of 367 lvl.)

1) 10 %+ DMG
2) +25 % mana pool
3) IA4 (in the long run)?

Higher the level, longer the fight. Because monster effective hp (hp/(1-PMI) ) grow much faster than ABD of player. Even with PA, hp of the monsters still grow faster than melees adb.
To prevent mana run out, you need to increase your damage as much as possible.
Good thing about higher level is that your defense is better so you only need to worry about damage.

So, get some power slaughters. Piece of missing END is ok if you are not dying. Then, get a good weapon if you do not have one. Next, go for DD. Followed by others hath damage perks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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