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post May 13 2014, 12:13
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ May 13 2014, 18:32) *

don't bother IW-ing armor, too much trolling...

Armor is much easier than to get lv5 something than weapon
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post May 13 2014, 12:17
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ May 13 2014, 16:41) *

Okay, so I just spent 300 hath on Multi page viewer and although reading doujins are now more enjoyable, I still have this bad feeling that I compromised my HV career because I could have done lots of training and bought lots of bindings, crystals and a Leg for that money.

What excuse can I use to justify my spending from a HV player perspective?

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I still dont have it, cos I doggie bag everything. Im considering getting Tag Flagging now, just to make my porn searching easier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post May 13 2014, 12:45
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 13 2014, 18:11) *

You can counteract the HA burden with high HA proficiency back then? I had no idea... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Also, I remember that Twilight-kun said something like making the gears with elementalist suffix viable again, so I assume that elemental, divine and forbidden prof was more useful back then (instead of acting as tier spell barriers like it was now), what kind of stat boost they give back then anyways?

Magic proficiency give 0.5% magic damage per point. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Making magic is the only way to play. They have level^3 damage.
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post May 13 2014, 13:08
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Proficiency used to contribute directly to damage. I think the divisor was /200. It contributed less to damage than EDB though. In fact, way way back, EDB used to unintentionally count twice. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post May 13 2014, 13:20
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 13 2014, 18:13) *
Armor is much easier than to get lv5 something than weapon
Doesn't apply to Juggernaut and Capacitor, I assume?

QUOTE(Colman @ May 13 2014, 18:45) *

Magic proficiency give 0.5% magic damage per point. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Making magic is the only way to play. They have level^3 damage.
QUOTE(n125 @ May 13 2014, 19:08) *

Proficiency used to contribute directly to damage. I think the divisor was /200. It contributed less to damage than EDB though. In fact, way way back, EDB used to unintentionally count twice. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Wow... Must've been quite a dream to be a high-level mage back then. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post May 13 2014, 13:24
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 13 2014, 18:17) *

I still dont have it, cos I doggie bag everything. Im considering getting Tag Flagging now, just to make my porn searching easier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


You could probably use your pro scripting skills to make a script that fetches the image url automatically and arrange them in a new page.

What photo viewer are you using anyway?
And is it me or does leggings drop the most among shade things?

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post May 13 2014, 13:47
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finally, did Eternal Darkness @PF. it took ~1.5hrs, and i got 20k credits + this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

i'd barely survive til the end & used all potions (10MP +3 SP). Haste/SS/Regen/Heartseaker always on. didn't use SV or Sol to save mp.

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thanks, for everyone's advice & the ones that sold me Haths for VV. VV really helps on saving spirit shield SP consumption + less likely to use cure. the SG crits still takes 60-80sp + 20%HP. though, i can't imagine reliably/regularly doing Eternal Darkness @PF. i guess non-forged gear can only take you this far with VV. also, low cold & dark mitigation aren't helping.

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post May 13 2014, 13:50
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 13 2014, 19:47) *

finally, did Eternal Darkness @PF. it took ~1.5hrs, and i got 20k credits + this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

i'd barely survive til the end & used all potions (10MP +3 SP). Haste/SS/Regen/Heartseaker always on. didn't use SV or Sol to save mp.

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thanks, for everyone's advice & the ones that sold me Haths for VV. VV really helps on saving spirit shield SP consumption + less likely to use cure. the SG crits still takes 60-80sp + 20%HP. though, i can't imagine reliably/regularly doing Eternal Darkness @PF. i guess non-forged gear can only take you this far with VV. also, low cold & dark mitigation aren't helping.

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46.9 % Fire 15.2 %Cold
18.6 %Elec 8.0 %Wind
19.4 %Holy 11.5 %Dark

Make the block chance become 50%+ and it would be easy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 13 2014, 13:54
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 13 2014, 13:50) *

Make the block chance become 50%+ and it would be easy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


i'm still rocking an Emax non-forged shield. haven't upgraded anything in about a month. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

i guess like what others have said, for 1H

you need some IW to do 1st SG@PF
VV + more IW for the 2nd SG@PF
some forging for 3rd?

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post May 13 2014, 13:58
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 13 2014, 13:20) *

Doesn't apply to Juggernaut and Capacitor, I assume?

it doesn't apply for almost every combination i'd say. don't know if multiplicators are actually different, but i think having holyproof 5 or (darkproof 3 + coldproof 2) - just two examples - isn't so easy as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(LOL50015 @ May 13 2014, 13:24) *

What photo viewer are you using anyway?

ACDSee 9. a bit old, but that's the last italian localized version available. i think i'll switch to XnView with next format though...

QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 13 2014, 13:47) *

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you're quite broken with credits, aren't you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post May 13 2014, 14:03
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 13 2014, 19:54) *
i'm still rocking an Emax non-forged shield. haven't upgraded anything in about a month. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

i guess like what others have said, for 1H

you need some IW to do 1st SG@PF
VV + more IW for the 2nd SG@PF
some forging for 3rd?
I'll give you your first Defense Matrix Modulator. Too lazy to put a price atm, so you can pay it later if you want.
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post May 13 2014, 14:25
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 13 2014, 13:58) *

you're quite broken with credits, aren't you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


yes, i'm quite broke. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 13 2014, 14:03) *

I'll give you your first Defense Matrix Modulator. Too lazy to put a price atm, so you can pay it later if you want.


thanks for the offer, but i think i'm not going to forge/buy anything for now. even if i've forged my current emax shield, it won't be good enough to do 3rd SG@PF. i'll probably need a MMax shield. also, i don't really hv the patience to sit down for 1.5hrs to do the 2nd SG, the third will be even longer.

though, if you need credits, cruelsion is currently buying them @27.5k and often enough, people will be buying them @30k in WTB section.

i'll probably try to do DwD@BT this weekend to get Dovahkiin. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post May 13 2014, 14:28
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 13 2014, 14:25) *

i'll probably try to do DwD@BT this weekend to get Dovahkiin. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

you make me remember that at this rate it will require me about a month to go at level 300 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 13 2014, 14:33
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 12 2014, 22:15) *

All because of high pricing for phazons, which could be better spent on acquiring better phases, so I might as well save up all my phazons for later if i acquire some.
I'll have to make do with IW potencies until then I guess... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)



You want at least magnificent phase with mag max EDB good evade and three pabs with good wisdom and intelligence as the minimum for forging. Even then I've never put more than five phason on a magnificent item.

Magic specialisation choice is quite important in terms of affordability and utility (though that could change in a single patch)

Dark - prices have crashed, in the past it used to be prohibititively expensive but good staffs can go for a fortune still
Holy - currently the most popular, it can be tricky and expensive to build right as there are a few choices

Wind - Best element at SG marathons, good resist profile, possibly the most popular all round element
Ice - Nice debuff, good resist profile, fairly constant popularity
Fire - Good defensive debuff, gear was quite common except for staffs only moderately popular.
Electric - Worst resist profile but strong against giants and mechanoids also only offensive elemental debuff. The fad of being popular may be wearing off its been dumped by a lot of top mages.
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post May 13 2014, 14:34
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anyone having problems getting into an arena challenge right now?

when i press start, nothing happens.
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post May 13 2014, 14:36
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 13 2014, 14:28) *

you make me remember that at this rate it will require me about a month to go at level 300 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


i'm 328 & still hvn't got it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ May 13 2014, 14:34) *

anyone having problems getting into an arena challenge right now?

when i press start, nothing happens.


just tried it, it works fine, but a bit laggy. maybe restart browser/computer?

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Wind - Best element at SG marathons, good resist profile, possibly the most popular all round element
Ice - Nice debuff, good resist profile, fairly constant popularity
Fire - Good defensive debuff, gear was quite common except for staffs only moderately popular.
Electric - Worst resist profile but strong against giants and mechanoids also only offensive elemental debuff. The fad of being popular may be wearing off its been dumped by a lot of top mages.


so, just curious, how much would something like this, sell for?

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post May 13 2014, 14:40
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 13 2014, 20:28) *
you make me remember that at this rate it will require me about a month to go at level 300 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Same to me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ May 13 2014, 20:33) *
You want at least magnificent phase with mag max EDB good evade and three pabs with good wisdom and intelligence as the minimum for forging. Even then I've never put more than five phason on a magnificent item.

Magic specialisation choice is quite important in terms of affordability and utility (though that could change in a single patch)

Dark - prices have crashed, in the past it used to be prohibititively expensive but good staffs can go for a fortune still
Holy - currently the most popular, it can be tricky and expensive to build right as there are a few choices

Wind - Best element at SG marathons, good resist profile, possibly the most popular all round element
Ice - Nice debuff, good resist profile, fairly constant popularity
Fire - Good defensive debuff, gear was quite common except for staffs only moderately popular.
Electric - Worst resist profile but strong against giants and mechanoids also only offensive elemental debuff. The fad of being popular may be wearing off its been dumped by a lot of top mages.
Side note: I'm jumping ship to windmage bandwagon real soon.

QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 13 2014, 20:36) *
so, just curious, how much would something like this, sell for?
1 Megacredits, or at half that price at the very least, if me buying a similar hallowed staff for the same price is of any indication.

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post May 13 2014, 14:41
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 13 2014, 14:36) *

so, just curious, how much would something like this, sell for?

for comparison this was worthy 50k (only offer) at an auction. not the best around but i wanted something decent to start with wind (and worthy enough to be IWed for some credits later (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ), maybe redwood will be a bit more since it has all elements, boh...

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post May 13 2014, 14:50
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 13 2014, 14:40) *

Same to me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Side note: I'm jumping ship to windmage bandwagon real soon.

1 Megacredits, or at half that price at the very least, if me buying a similar hallowed staff for the same price is of any indication.



QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 13 2014, 14:41) *

for comparison this was worthy 50k (only offer) at an auction. not the best around but i wanted something decent to start with wind (and worthy enough to be IWed for some credits later (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ), maybe redwood will be a bit more since it has all elements, boh...


maging is too foreign to me. even when so many users tried to explain it to me, i still found it confusing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post May 13 2014, 14:56
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 13 2014, 14:50) *

maging is too foreign to me. even when so many users tried to explain it to me, i still found it confusing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

[youtu.be] welcome to the club! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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