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Is that so? Didn't know that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Here's the phrase itself

As for the price of materials, it's been intended by Tenboro to avoid people with lots of monsters to get most of of the game's wealth. The same ones who are mostly mages and kept their mage mats for themselves and flooded the market with melee stuff

Tbh going by Blacksmith-kun's word Admin-kun pricesettings didn't solve a thing really... the prevent maging full circle is my conjecture really... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 10 2014, 16:20

Aww..Colman, why must you always make sense.

I was hoping for something like this:

Player A: "Why RA price so low?"
Player B: "Good question, that's no reason for it"
Player A: "You're right! Let's start buying it at 200k so that it makes sense!"
Everyone: "Yeah!"
*RA price rises*

I have been here long enough to understand how they work .
However , I still have no credit to play with the forge . The best I can do is to focus on a single stat of a single piece .

Hope the new patch do not nerf melee too much .

Player A: "Why RA price so low?"
Player B: "Good question, that's no reason for it"
Player A: "You're right! Let's start buying it at 200k so that it makes sense!"
Everyone: "Yeah!"
*RA price rises*

No one is THAT much retarded. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Here's the phrase itself

Is the Blacksmith-kun revealing Admin-kun as the culprit behind the material inflaction warrant this big a "BIG WHAT"!?

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 10 2014, 16:32

Oh, come on, the same applies to mages too!
Now THAT makes sense.

I strongly doubt your reading skills. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

High-end power gears of slaughter are hard to come along, so there isn't any point to forge them.
And yes, people forge ADB more often than mitigation or anything else and even then forging ADB on Power (armors + slaughter suffix only, the other parts are less prioritized due to much lesser ADB) becomes reasonable only after mainhand weapon is fully forged.

It's because forging power armor do not give much gain in damage output in compare with phase .

Use cat as example . He have around 9xxx ADB , with highly forged weapon and mildly forge armor . If he fully forge the armor ,I doubt he can add an addition 1000 ADB . Which mean a few hundreds of forge may not even give you 10% increase in ADB .

On the other hand , fully forge the edb of phase armor can give you ~35% damage increase . A bit more with fully forged int/wis .

Now, let's get to mage gears vs power gears in terms of "source"

If you take a look in most of the WTS threads, you'll find more high-end Phase than Power gears left unsold. Many usually start maging only after reaching VERY HIGH level, say, 310 for Maxed Imperil or even higher to run anything safely while even newbies could start with 1H Power before they even got the Godslayer title. There are also some who just stay 1H Power all the way to 400 before which they start to mage.

The demand for power gears from low to mid-high level players are strong, thus making high-end power gears much harder to come across with.

This post has been edited by kos9494: May 10 2014, 16:36

High-end power gears of slaughter are hard to come along, so there isn't any point to forge them.

You got it backwards. High-end gear of any kind is hard to find and that's all the more reason why people do forge them: to get the most out of something already high-specced and end up with something uniquely powerful.

You got it backwards. High-end gear of any kind is hard to find and that's all the more reason why people do forge them: to get the most out of something already high-specced and end up with something uniquely powerful.

Okay, sorry for not making it clear, let me fix that one.

"High-end power gears of slaughter are hard to come along, so there isn't any point to forge those that aren't high-end."

Adding something before somebody's trying to troll the shit out of me again:

Even forging a piece of PMax ADB power doesn't give as much damage as forging a piece of LMax Phase so there's downright pointless forging a non-high end equipments.

This post has been edited by kos9494: May 10 2014, 16:58

Is the Blacksmith-kun revealing Admin-kun as the culprit behind the material inflaction warrant this big a "BIG WHAT"!?

Who Knows?

If you take a look in most of the WTS threads, you'll find more high-end Phase than Power gears left unsold. Many usually start maging only after reaching VERY HIGH level, say, 310 for Maxed Imperil or even higher to run anything safely while even newbies could start with 1H Power before they even got the Godslayer title. There are also some who just stay 1H Power all the way to 400 before which they start to mage.

The demand for power gears from low to mid-high level players are strong, thus making high-end power gears much harder to come across with.

Your statement is contradictory. More Demand = Highier Price. Or are you saying that the market works the opposite way? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by kuro009: May 10 2014, 16:43

Is the Blacksmith-kun revealing Admin-kun as the culprit behind the material inflaction warrant this big a "BIG WHAT"!?

speculations everywhere... -.-"

I'm almost at lvl 200, what should i do right now?

I'm 1h, with heavy armor:

(IMG:[puu.sh] http://puu.sh/8GGxt.png)

My stats:

(IMG:[puu.sh] http://puu.sh/8GGAl.png)

Your statement is contradictory. More Demand = Highier Price. Or are you saying that the market works the opposite way? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

-facepalm-

Duh more demand doesn't always mean higher price. Mage stuffs are generally more expensive than Power because:

1) The ones that mage are usually high level players, and they usually come from the rich community. Their bid war is ridiculously intensive, thus setting the price of high-end Mage gears much higher compared to Power ones.
2) Mage do need high-end armors more than 1H do. For 1H, the potential mainly comes from the combination of a good rapier and a good shield where as mage has to get as much EDB as they can from every single pieces.
3) Somewhat related to point #2. 1H players with unforged elite power gears can almost do as well as those with forged high-end ones, and such gap grows so much bigger when it comes to mages.

Note: Just because your level is higher doesn't mean that you're more experienced. Learn to respect your juniors, they were all suckers who buy noob stuffs from you.

This post has been edited by kos9494: May 10 2014, 17:00

you may want to keep that couple of shielding, but you should start to replace those two plate armors with power.
also, a bit more deprecating prof wouldn't hurt... if you're able to go to 40, you will unlock silence (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

you may want to keep that couple of shielding, but you should start to replace those two plate armors with power.
also, a bit more deprecating prof wouldn't hurt... if you're able to go to 40, you will unlock silence (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Ok im think i will be working on derpecating today

Thanks

I strongly doubt your reading skills. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Now, let's get to mage gears vs power gears in terms of "source"

If you take a look in most of the WTS threads, you'll find more high-end Phase than Power gears left unsold. Many usually start maging only after reaching VERY HIGH level, say, 310 for Maxed Imperil or even higher to run anything safely while even newbies could start with 1H Power before they even got the Godslayer title. There are also some who just stay 1H Power all the way to 400 before which they start to mage.

The demand for power gears from low to mid-high level players are strong, thus making high-end power gears much harder to come across with.

I think you may have a few misunderstanding.

1) Lv310 is not considered high level. It is a starting level for (hardcore?!) HV player.
2) Low to mid level player do not use power armor much. It is because they cannot survive with 1H power, as their counter and stun rate is far too low. Also, 1H have extremely slow killing speed for low level.
3) Mage is not that good in low level only in the last few patchs. People used to mage from level 1 before. There were times only mage can survive. From the statistic by 10B, most of the active players are mage, not melee. Most of the melee here are either play for fun or want to multi-task.
Most of the speaker in this thread are melee, it is because mage do not really need any guide, but not because there are fewer mage.

4) lazy to write, go watching animation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

edit: I found that my English is at kindergarten level. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by Colman: May 10 2014, 17:10

-facepalm-

Duh more demand doesn't always mean higher price. Mage stuffs are generally more expensive than Power because:

1) The ones that mage are usually high level players, and they usually come from the rich community. Their bid war is ridiculously intensive.
2) Mage do need high-end armors than 1H. For 1H, the potential mainly comes from the combination of a good rapier and a good shield while mage has to get as much MDB as they can from every single pieces.

Note: Just because your level is higher doesn't mean that you're more experienced. Learn to respect your juniors, they were all suckers who buy cheap stuffs from you.

Ahem! May I know what I did to Disrespect you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

And You just added more contradictions to your own statement again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
1) Point to be noted, you said Usually, which I'll agree is damn true. But not every rich person here is mage.
2) Isn't that more reason to forge power armor to get a even better one? And on another note, Mana conservation does matter a lot for mages. So a Radiant is just as desirable as a Frugal.

Ahem! May I know what I did to Disrespect you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

One Piece characters hater here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) , especially those with stupid personality and ugly design, Mr. Two being one of the shittest gaylord I've ever seen in my anime/manga life.

Your words don't, but that picture alone DEE-respected me.

And You just added more contradictions to your own statement again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
1) Point to be noted, you said Usually, which I'll agree is damn true. But not every rich person here is mage.
2) Isn't that more reason to forge power armor to get a even better one? And on another note, Mana conservation does matter a lot for mages. So a Radiant is just as desirable as a Frugal.

1) Is there even a need to add something to this since you said you agreed with it?
2) Colman answered that just a while ago oh dear...

This post has been edited by kos9494: May 10 2014, 17:05

One Piece characters hater here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) , especially those with stupid personality and ugly design, Mr. Two being one of the shittest gaylord I've ever seen in my anime/manga life.

That picture wasn't for you, dear.

One Piece characters hater here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) , especially those with stupid personality and ugly design

BUT you don't have anything against nami, robin or vivi, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

BUT you don't have anything against nami, robin or vivi, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Not really liking their designs, either. Though not to the pointing of getting disgusted by them.

That picture wasn't for you, dear.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) ...

I can't stand a gaylord's being right above a quote of MY post. ヽ(#ﾟДﾟ)ﾉ

This post has been edited by kos9494: May 10 2014, 17:17

I think you may have a few misunderstanding.

1) Lv310 is not considered high level. It is a starting level for (hardcore?!) HV player.
2) Low to mid level player do not use power armor much. It is because they cannot survive with 1H power, as their counter and stun rate is far too low. Also, 1H have extremely slow killing speed for low level.
3) Mage is not that good in low level only in the last few patchs. People used to mage from level 1 before. There were times only mage can survive. From the statistic by 10B, most of the active players are mage, not melee. Most of the melee here are either play for fun or want to multi-task.
Most of the speaker in this thread are melee, it is because mage do not really need any guide, but not because there are fewer mage.

4) lazy to write, go watching animation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

edit: I found that my English is at kindergarten level. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

1) Uh huh, in your respective, maybe. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) I'm already doing PFUDOR TT&T everyday and trying to clear PFUDOR SG arenas, if PFUDOR is the starting difficulty for arenas in your view.

2) Low level can be a range from Lv. 1 to 200, and mid level can go up to Lv. 300. I was using Power from 1 to 150 (doing BT/IWBTH difficulty) before switching to Shades. And there's always the fancy Mace + Power setup which can easily get you close to Lv. 200 without needing 1H. And yes, talking about 1H being slow, remember someone who got to Lv. 300 with the your-so-called-slow 1H? Oh, I haven't even mentioned he wasn't even using POWER but SHADE. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

3) We're talking about THIS patch. And wait, how is that related to our gears topic again? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

4) Meh, whatever you do.

This post has been edited by kos9494: May 10 2014, 17:31