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May 8 2014, 08:44
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kserox
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 727
Joined: 26-December 10

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QUOTE(something @ May 8 2014, 11:32)  Gentlemen, I think we should discern 'troll mags' (example: Power Slaughter with lowest ADB possible, Force Shield with 0 PABs) and 'shit mags' (example: Cotton, Leather of Stoneskin, Shortsword of Vamp or something like that).
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May 8 2014, 08:58
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something
Group: Members
Posts: 1,106
Joined: 14-January 07

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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 8 2014, 02:03)  Should I start one?
please no. there's already the equipment thread for that QUOTE(TheRapture @ May 8 2014, 02:13)  Oh sure. That was the idea, anyway, considering I mentioned the lack of Postage Paid. I guess that's my larger question, after all. Is it worth CODing the Phazon for 200k (what I assume it's worth) when the mail fee is 1k?
you don't HAVE to cod it, it's just more convenient to. just make sure you tell whoever you're selling it to that you didn't put a cod on it so you can get paid.
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May 8 2014, 09:07
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holy_demon
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 5,417
Joined: 2-April 10

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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 8 2014, 16:03)  I really wanna choke the "piece of cake statement" outta everyone, and I MEAN, EVERYONE! who said grinding profs was a cakewalk. I got my Assimilator Lv5 back when I still have megacredits to spend. For those who have a damned good ping and a damned good Net Connection, grinding'em is practically a train 'n forgot thing for them. But I don't. And grinding Divine/Forbidden prof is a hellborn plague on my Net connection.
Whats your ping? Cats Lover and I probably have the shittiest internet (400ms ping) of all the 350+ players here, and we both consider grinding prof to be easy even with no Assimilator. The trick is to get to 350, then start to gain prof naturally by playing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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May 8 2014, 09:18
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malkatmp
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,102
Joined: 30-April 12

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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 8 2014, 09:07)  Whats your ping? Cats Lover and I probably have the shittiest internet (400ms ping) of all the 350+ players here, and we both consider grinding prof to be easy even with no Assimilator. The trick is to get to 350, then start to gain prof naturally by playing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) but grinding melee prof is a lot faster/easier than grinding forbidden/divine/depreciating prof. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) even assuming 100% 0.03 gains, you'll need to spam the spell 10,000 times to grind 300lvls and that's why my depreciating prof is still in the lower 100s & divine prof in 0.17. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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May 8 2014, 10:36
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holy_demon
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 5,417
Joined: 2-April 10

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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 8 2014, 17:18)  but grinding melee prof is a lot faster/easier than grinding forbidden/divine/depreciating prof. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) even assuming 100% 0.03 gains, you'll need to spam the spell 10,000 times to grind 300lvls and that's why my depreciating prof is still in the lower 100s & divine prof in 0.17. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) forbidden/divine is easy to get because you can play normally with them. Its pretty much the same as melee. Only deprecation is annoying to get, but its a lot easier to afk grind. Since its not a killing spell, you can just set hover to Cure > Weaken in some easy battle mode (make sure youre not in your 1H set though, since 1H is capable of afk killing), and leave your computer there for a few hours (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I personally dont ever bother with that. I got my dep prof to 270 just from the few time I tried using imperil in SG (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Nowadays Im not even using dep spell anymore This post has been edited by holy_demon: May 8 2014, 10:41
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May 8 2014, 10:41
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Owyn
Group: Members
Posts: 692
Joined: 12-May 10

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you. forgot. about. grinding. STAFF.
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May 8 2014, 10:44
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kos9494
Group: Members
Posts: 837
Joined: 12-September 12

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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 8 2014, 16:36)  forbidden/divine is easy to get because you can play normally with them. Its pretty much the same as melee. Only deprecation is annoying to get, but its a lot easier to afk grind. Since its not a killing spell, you can just set hover to Cure > Weaken in some easy battle mode (make sure youre not in your 1H set though, since 1H is capable of afk killing), and leave your computer there for a few hours (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) You sir have some crazy degree of mana regen. This post has been edited by kos9494: May 8 2014, 10:44
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May 8 2014, 10:51
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,314
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 8 2014, 04:42)  Btw, I'd think you should report yourself to the FREE shop about taking two Magnificent without waiting for the cooldown to lift...
be careful guys, actually ai is a bit pissed with whoever don't respect rules, as far as i read it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(ferociousmoon @ May 8 2014, 05:41)  [TH-L-01] Magnificent Longsword of Slaughter DMG: MMAX+12.8 Acc: MMAX Crit: MMAX-0.6 you may try to IW it, with a few good stats it may become sellable...
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May 8 2014, 10:59
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holy_demon
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 5,417
Joined: 2-April 10

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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 8 2014, 18:44)  You sir have some crazy degree of mana regen.
Oh yeah I forgot, the rotation should be Cure > Weaken > Heroic Mana (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And if your weaken is not on a 0 cooldown, just put in all dep spell, or a sup spell This post has been edited by holy_demon: May 8 2014, 11:11
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May 8 2014, 11:01
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malkatmp
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,102
Joined: 30-April 12

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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 8 2014, 10:36)  forbidden/divine is easy to get because you can play normally with them. Its pretty much the same as melee. Only deprecation is annoying to get, but its a lot easier to afk grind. Since its not a killing spell, you can just set hover to Cure > Weaken in some easy battle mode (make sure youre not in your 1H set though, since 1H is capable of afk killing), and leave your computer there for a few hours (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) but then there'll be no one to grind my proficiency. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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May 8 2014, 11:16
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Usagi =
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,923
Joined: 29-October 13

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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 8 2014, 15:07)  Whats your ping? Cats Lover and I probably have the shittiest internet (400ms ping) of all the 350+ players here, and we both consider grinding prof to be easy even with no Assimilator. The trick is to get to 350, then start to gain prof naturally by playing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) It's not hard, it's broing and slow. And the natural thingy don't work if you want it ASAP like me.
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May 8 2014, 11:17
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n125
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 6,282
Joined: 23-May 08

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QUOTE(Owyn @ May 8 2014, 01:41)  you. forgot. about. grinding. STAFF.
It's the worst. I just finished sitting through about 3000 turns just to raise my Staff proficiency one point. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I noticed that the game starts to lag the more turns you take. At the start of the round I can go 3.5-4 turns/sec, but after about 2000 turns, it slows down to about 1 turn/sec.
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May 8 2014, 11:18
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Owyn
Group: Members
Posts: 692
Joined: 12-May 10

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QUOTE(n125 @ May 8 2014, 13:17)  It's the worst. I just finished sitting through about 3000 turns just to raise my Staff proficiency one point. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I noticed that the game starts to lag the more turns you take. At the start of the round I can go 3.5-4 turns/sec, but after about 2000 turns, it slows down to about 1 turn/sec. Just finished 4500 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) and nope, it doesn't start to lag for me. CleanFox.
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May 8 2014, 11:27
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n125
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 6,282
Joined: 23-May 08

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QUOTE(Owyn @ May 8 2014, 02:18)  and nope, it doesn't start to lag for me. CleanFox.
And here I was thinking that perhaps Tenboro added turn speed throttling.
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May 8 2014, 11:57
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slimyD
Group: Members
Posts: 111
Joined: 4-August 12

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So I was that guy a few pages back who posted about investing in agility as a DW heavy armor user, and I read everyone's comments afterwards (tl;dr: mage > 1h > barefists > DW + heavy power armor of slaughter). Just for the heck of it, I tried equipping a terrible 1h weapon with some silly old shield, paired with random crappy-ass heavy shield armor I had lying around, and with a 2.0 1h weapon proficiency, I messed around.
I'm happy to report that my damage is shit, and the rounds take forever, but damned, I'm unkillable. Also, mana is no longer an issue. As a DW user, I was burning through mana just to survive a round.
This post has been edited by slimyD: May 8 2014, 11:58
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May 8 2014, 12:11
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Cats Lover
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,800
Joined: 18-April 13

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Speaking about proficiency grinding for novice mage. ~ 12 days grinding project ~ Before  After  Staff 201.12 -> 419.68 Cloth 281.61 -> 421.00 Elemental 62.00 -> 386.90 Divine 179.90 -> 247.71 Deprecating 361.30 -> 421.00 Grinding 2~3 hr average per day on the last round of T&T. IMO staff is much easier than offensive spells unless mainly playing as mage. Thanks again to Lement and holy_demon for their great and powerful scripts. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by Cats Lover: May 8 2014, 12:19
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May 8 2014, 12:14
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malkatmp
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,102
Joined: 30-April 12

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QUOTE(slimyD @ May 8 2014, 11:57)  So I was that guy a few pages back who posted about investing in agility as a DW heavy armor user, and I read everyone's comments afterwards (tl;dr: mage > 1h > barefists > DW + heavy power armor of slaughter). Just for the heck of it, I tried equipping a terrible 1h weapon with some silly old shield, paired with random crappy-ass heavy shield armor I had lying around, and with a 2.0 1h weapon proficiency, I messed around. I'm happy to report that my damage is shit, and the rounds take forever, but damned, I'm unkillable. Also, mana is no longer an issue. As a DW user, I was burning through mana just to survive a round.
imo, DW + shade/leather is still a decent combination. DW is can provide decent dmg & shade can provide good resist+evade+more dmg. leather can provide some cheap & good protection & resist. however, DW + heavy might lack evade/block/resist to be you survivable for the long run. ie Axe/Axe + power slaughter provides a lot of dmg, but you'll die very easy for having 0% evade/block + low parry/resist.
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