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post May 8 2014, 08:44
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QUOTE(something @ May 8 2014, 11:32) *

Gentlemen, I think we should discern 'troll mags' (example: Power Slaughter with lowest ADB possible, Force Shield with 0 PABs) and 'shit mags' (example: Cotton, Leather of Stoneskin, Shortsword of Vamp or something like that).
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post May 8 2014, 08:58
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 8 2014, 02:03) *

Should I start one?


please no. there's already the equipment thread for that

QUOTE(TheRapture @ May 8 2014, 02:13) *

Oh sure. That was the idea, anyway, considering I mentioned the lack of Postage Paid. I guess that's my larger question, after all. Is it worth CODing the Phazon for 200k (what I assume it's worth) when the mail fee is 1k?


you don't HAVE to cod it, it's just more convenient to. just make sure you tell whoever you're selling it to that you didn't put a cod on it so you can get paid.
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post May 8 2014, 09:07
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 8 2014, 16:03) *

I really wanna choke the "piece of cake statement" outta everyone, and I MEAN, EVERYONE! who said grinding profs was a cakewalk. I got my Assimilator Lv5 back when I still have megacredits to spend. For those who have a damned good ping and a damned good Net Connection, grinding'em is practically a train 'n forgot thing for them. But I don't. And grinding Divine/Forbidden prof is a hellborn plague on my Net connection.


Whats your ping? Cats Lover and I probably have the shittiest internet (400ms ping) of all the 350+ players here, and we both consider grinding prof to be easy even with no Assimilator. The trick is to get to 350, then start to gain prof naturally by playing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 8 2014, 09:09
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Also, another contribution to the bandwagon of troller mag Magnificent Shocking Willow Staff of Destruction

SMAX-5 MDB and MMAX ADB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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post May 8 2014, 09:18
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 8 2014, 09:07) *

Whats your ping? Cats Lover and I probably have the shittiest internet (400ms ping) of all the 350+ players here, and we both consider grinding prof to be easy even with no Assimilator. The trick is to get to 350, then start to gain prof naturally by playing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


but grinding melee prof is a lot faster/easier than grinding forbidden/divine/depreciating prof. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

even assuming 100% 0.03 gains, you'll need to spam the spell 10,000 times to grind 300lvls and that's why my depreciating prof is still in the lower 100s & divine prof in 0.17. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post May 8 2014, 10:36
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 8 2014, 17:18) *

but grinding melee prof is a lot faster/easier than grinding forbidden/divine/depreciating prof. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

even assuming 100% 0.03 gains, you'll need to spam the spell 10,000 times to grind 300lvls and that's why my depreciating prof is still in the lower 100s & divine prof in 0.17. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

forbidden/divine is easy to get because you can play normally with them. Its pretty much the same as melee. Only deprecation is annoying to get, but its a lot easier to afk grind. Since its not a killing spell, you can just set hover to Cure > Weaken in some easy battle mode (make sure youre not in your 1H set though, since 1H is capable of afk killing), and leave your computer there for a few hours (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I personally dont ever bother with that. I got my dep prof to 270 just from the few time I tried using imperil in SG (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Nowadays Im not even using dep spell anymore

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post May 8 2014, 10:41
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you. forgot. about. grinding. STAFF.
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post May 8 2014, 10:44
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 8 2014, 16:36) *

forbidden/divine is easy to get because you can play normally with them. Its pretty much the same as melee. Only deprecation is annoying to get, but its a lot easier to afk grind. Since its not a killing spell, you can just set hover to Cure > Weaken in some easy battle mode (make sure youre not in your 1H set though, since 1H is capable of afk killing), and leave your computer there for a few hours (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



You sir have some crazy degree of mana regen.

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post May 8 2014, 10:51
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 8 2014, 04:42) *

Btw, I'd think you should report yourself to the FREE shop about taking two Magnificent without waiting for the cooldown to lift...

be careful guys, actually ai is a bit pissed with whoever don't respect rules, as far as i read it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(ferociousmoon @ May 8 2014, 05:41) *

[TH-L-01] Magnificent Longsword of Slaughter DMG: MMAX+12.8 Acc: MMAX Crit: MMAX-0.6

you may try to IW it, with a few good stats it may become sellable...
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post May 8 2014, 10:59
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 8 2014, 18:44) *

You sir have some crazy degree of mana regen.

Oh yeah I forgot, the rotation should be Cure > Weaken > Heroic Mana (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And if your weaken is not on a 0 cooldown, just put in all dep spell, or a sup spell

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post May 8 2014, 11:01
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 8 2014, 10:36) *

forbidden/divine is easy to get because you can play normally with them. Its pretty much the same as melee. Only deprecation is annoying to get, but its a lot easier to afk grind. Since its not a killing spell, you can just set hover to Cure > Weaken in some easy battle mode (make sure youre not in your 1H set though, since 1H is capable of afk killing), and leave your computer there for a few hours (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



but then there'll be no one to grind my proficiency. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 8 2014, 11:16
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 8 2014, 15:07) *

Whats your ping? Cats Lover and I probably have the shittiest internet (400ms ping) of all the 350+ players here, and we both consider grinding prof to be easy even with no Assimilator. The trick is to get to 350, then start to gain prof naturally by playing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


It's not hard, it's broing and slow.

And the natural thingy don't work if you want it ASAP like me.
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post May 8 2014, 11:17
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QUOTE(Owyn @ May 8 2014, 01:41) *

you. forgot. about. grinding. STAFF.


It's the worst. I just finished sitting through about 3000 turns just to raise my Staff proficiency one point. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

I noticed that the game starts to lag the more turns you take. At the start of the round I can go 3.5-4 turns/sec, but after about 2000 turns, it slows down to about 1 turn/sec.
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post May 8 2014, 11:18
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QUOTE(n125 @ May 8 2014, 13:17) *

It's the worst. I just finished sitting through about 3000 turns just to raise my Staff proficiency one point. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

I noticed that the game starts to lag the more turns you take. At the start of the round I can go 3.5-4 turns/sec, but after about 2000 turns, it slows down to about 1 turn/sec.

Just finished 4500 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
and nope, it doesn't start to lag for me. CleanFox.
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post May 8 2014, 11:22
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I just made a thread asking for bigger sigs and avatars!

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=165714

SUPPORT!
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post May 8 2014, 11:27
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QUOTE(Owyn @ May 8 2014, 02:18) *

and nope, it doesn't start to lag for me. CleanFox.


And here I was thinking that perhaps Tenboro added turn speed throttling.
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post May 8 2014, 11:57
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So I was that guy a few pages back who posted about investing in agility as a DW heavy armor user, and I read everyone's comments afterwards (tl;dr: mage > 1h > barefists > DW + heavy power armor of slaughter).
Just for the heck of it, I tried equipping a terrible 1h weapon with some silly old shield, paired with random crappy-ass heavy shield armor I had lying around, and with a 2.0 1h weapon proficiency, I messed around.


I'm happy to report that my damage is shit, and the rounds take forever, but damned, I'm unkillable.
Also, mana is no longer an issue. As a DW user, I was burning through mana just to survive a round.

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post May 8 2014, 12:11
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Speaking about proficiency grinding for novice mage.
~ 12 days grinding project ~

Before
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After
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Staff 201.12 -> 419.68
Cloth 281.61 -> 421.00
Elemental 62.00 -> 386.90
Divine 179.90 -> 247.71
Deprecating 361.30 -> 421.00

Grinding 2~3 hr average per day on the last round of T&T.
IMO staff is much easier than offensive spells unless mainly playing as mage.

Thanks again to Lement and holy_demon for their great and powerful scripts. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post May 8 2014, 12:14
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QUOTE(slimyD @ May 8 2014, 11:57) *

So I was that guy a few pages back who posted about investing in agility as a DW heavy armor user, and I read everyone's comments afterwards (tl;dr: mage > 1h > barefists > DW + heavy power armor of slaughter).
Just for the heck of it, I tried equipping a terrible 1h weapon with some silly old shield, paired with random crappy-ass heavy shield armor I had lying around, and with a 2.0 1h weapon proficiency, I messed around.
I'm happy to report that my damage is shit, and the rounds take forever, but damned, I'm unkillable.
Also, mana is no longer an issue. As a DW user, I was burning through mana just to survive a round.


imo, DW + shade/leather is still a decent combination. DW is can provide decent dmg & shade can provide good resist+evade+more dmg. leather can provide some cheap & good protection & resist.

however, DW + heavy might lack evade/block/resist to be you survivable for the long run. ie Axe/Axe + power slaughter provides a lot of dmg, but you'll die very easy for having 0% evade/block + low parry/resist.
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post May 8 2014, 12:29
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Double Post. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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