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May 6 2014, 14:49
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kos9494
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Just did Road Less Traveled on PFUDOR using Colman's(thank you for that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)) axe and a new shield in Shade set, with 4 one-handed prof. and this is the only notable good result: - Spirit Stance last 3 times longer than my DW Will be reporting it once I get to 100+ and 200+ 1H prof. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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May 6 2014, 14:50
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boulay
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 6 2014, 14:41)  Good time to start. Oh, and IW all your phase armors of your choosing before you try it out. And if you haven't grinded'em up already, be prepared to spend some time grinding elemental/divine/forbidden prof.
Sounds like a pain ^^" I grinded a bit my divine proficiency to test if it had an impact on the holy strike of my mace... And it didn't. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) But at least I've unlocked Banishment (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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May 6 2014, 14:52
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catdrag0n
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 6 2014, 14:32)  Since many people are playing 1H, I might try playing it (no harm trying a new style right?). Bought a new not-so-bad shield, using Colman's Axe (C'mon, untrack the axe already you (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) with my Shades set and-.... ...4.0 1H prof. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) Let's hope my curiosity won't get me pawned. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I feel the pain too... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Just started a few days ago, my 1H prof was at 1.05... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Using this: Exquisite Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter + Exquisite Mithril Buckler of the Barrier (I know buckler sucks, but it's enough for grinding, I'll look for a Shield later, when all 1H skills are unlocked, BTW the rapier already cost me an arm) Now I'm at 49.57 prof, still a long way to go...
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May 6 2014, 14:54
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 6 2014, 21:44)  Are your gears worth 9 digits? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Not at all, just novice gears with 6 digits. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE Also keep in mind that ping is relatively bigger than most mage you would be comparing against (treesloth has half your ping, for instance), so even if they are melee, they will clear faster than you (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Yes, not only for clear speed by the ping (melee vs melee), but also for the turn per round. (melee vs mage) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) BTW as a novice elemental mage with magic score 15.7k, it's hard to clear T&T PFUDOR at the latter half rounds without using Weaken, like 2H. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) How much magic score (and defensive stat) required without using Weaken? About 20~25k? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Or, Weaken should be the best friend to all mages (maybe except dani? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)) on PFUDOR or last rounds of GF?
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May 6 2014, 15:01
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animeai
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ May 6 2014, 14:59)  Yep, Even I found myself hard pressed to meet my maging ends meet really... Speaking of briefcase... I do have them... three of them, in fact. That's back when I have wads of haths though... and now these briefcases are devoid of money.
Dood.... you didn't correct a thing while leaving your codes open... I one upped your correction.
Also, iirc, a fully-forged hallowed mage set costs about 450 Megacredits just for the forging alone. I know, because I did the math. To counter treesloth's sarcasm no less. Even animeai falls into "lacrima" state in the wake of the cold figures.
pft tell me about it I do love my shade and 1h set though... I get hit so rarely with this any non-schoolgirl arena is a cakewalk. The downside is a heroic mana potion only refills about 75% of my mana pool! I wish my IW had given me more jugganaut >_> Ah well, reforge time perhaps lol. As always though, schoolgirl arenas are a pain in the backside becuase they take so long... the girlies can't touch me for much damage but even with IA V I have to focus like crazy in late battle. Perhaps I should turn everything but spirit shield and spark off and give that a try... The one thing I do really need though is an lmax damage rapier >_> but that's probably going to be in the megacredit range too lmao. I refuse to put bindings of slaughter on my current one since I know it isn't overly high damage compared to what I could have This post has been edited by animeai: May 6 2014, 15:03
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May 6 2014, 15:50
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 6 2014, 22:54)  Not at all, just novice gears with 6 digits. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) That piece in your sig alone is worth 8 digits (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I reckon your gears stand at the 200m mark whereas more accomplished mage is standing at 1b mark (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) EDIT: uhm I think we are misunderstanding each other, I was referring to your melee gears Either way, is your T&T clear time faster with mage than 1H? This post has been edited by holy_demon: May 6 2014, 15:54
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May 6 2014, 16:03
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(animeai @ May 6 2014, 21:01)  pft tell me about it These briefcases are nothin' fancy, they're just Innate Arcanas really. I used to have about 12 Megacredits, which kickstarted me into Hentaiverse for really reals. Now it's all spent, and it's all just fun memories now. I get my first phase armaments from varst, got one from free shop as my graduation gift, the rest is all bought for around 50k each when 95% of my bounty fortunes has been all spent. This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 6 2014, 16:05
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May 6 2014, 16:06
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TheRapture
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Wait wait wait, I feel like I've been tricked.
1H is strictly better than 2H and DW? Dafuq?
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May 6 2014, 16:21
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Owyn
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Mage > 1H > 2H > DW
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May 6 2014, 16:34
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kawaiikun
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How do i get more random encounters guys?
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May 6 2014, 16:39
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Kazetenshi
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QUOTE(kawaiikun @ May 6 2014, 16:34)  How do i get more random encounters guys?
It's once every 30 minutes after you click the notice so visit the e-h site whenever it's up. You can also download the script that times it for you.
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May 6 2014, 16:41
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Colman
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QUOTE(TheRapture @ May 6 2014, 22:06)  Wait wait wait, I feel like I've been tricked.
1H is strictly better than 2H and DW? Dafuq?
It does not matter at your level. 1H require lv 200+ to be useful. On early level, DW/2H should be better.
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May 6 2014, 16:42
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(TheRapture @ May 7 2014, 00:06)  Wait wait wait, I feel like I've been tricked.
1H is strictly better than 2H and DW? Dafuq?
In low level, 1H has the best survivability to play highest difficulty early so you can power level. In high level, it has almost unlimited OC to spam OFC, and doesnt have any problem with parry or evade like 2H or DW. It also has great survivability so you can stack power slaughter without worry low level 1H and high level 1H are 2 very different styles of play though (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by holy_demon: May 6 2014, 16:44
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May 6 2014, 16:46
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 6 2014, 22:50)  EDIT: uhm I think we are misunderstanding each other, I was referring to your melee gears
Yep, I meant my novice wind mage gear (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE Either way, is your T&T clear time faster with mage than 1H?
At least for me, 1H was much faster and much safter than novice wind mage. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) Well, my magic score 15.7k mage gears are worth 6 digits after all. (Staff is 7 digits + forged) All doing with maging on PFUDOR (~20 min) - Weaken and Imperil to all enemies. I should recast especially Imperil if even one enemy resists it. This takes much time than I expected. - Cast 3-tier to all -> 2-tier -> 1-tier -> 1-tier: Most monsters die at this section except some horrible ones, like in memory of dark mages. - Cure if taken a very little scratch hit. All doing with 1H on PFUDOR (~14 min) - Recast when Regen and Heartseeker expire. - Just up and down the mouse with mousemelee, watching animation. - When there's 6+ mobs and enough OC, press some keys to activate OFC. (Without this, the time 15~16 min) - No Cure at all. This post has been edited by Cats Lover: May 6 2014, 16:50
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May 6 2014, 16:47
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ferociousmoon
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 6 2014, 22:42)  In low level, 1H has the best survivability to play highest difficulty early so you can power level. In high level, it has almost unlimited OC to spam OFC, and doesnt have any problem with parry or evade like 2H or DW. It also has great survivability so you can stack power slaughter without worry low level 1H and high level 1H are 2 very different styles of play though (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) what's OFC? im planning to fund for 1H with power armor now, stilll looking for the right 1h weapon. which is better for 1H, rapier or a club. This post has been edited by ferociousmoon: May 6 2014, 16:49
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May 6 2014, 16:56
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(ferociousmoon @ May 6 2014, 22:47)  what's OFC? Orbital Friendship Cannon, get 21 Pony figurines, and you'll get a powerful AoE void-elemental cannon based on your ADB (attack damage bonus). Melee users likes this one a lot, and it save my arse many times since Level 180 or so. I guess I'm glad to jump into the OFC bandwagon when I could. Btw, I only have 1 Pony figurine obtained as loot, the rest is all bought, usually for 90k or so, so it'll take about 2 Megacredits to buy'em all. QUOTE(ferociousmoon @ May 6 2014, 22:47)  im planning to fund for 1H with power armor now, stilll looking for the right 1h weapon.
which is better for 1H, rapier or a club. Club for low-level, rapier for high levels, especially schoolgirl arenas. I'd say, you should start looking for a rapier now. This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 6 2014, 17:09
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May 6 2014, 17:03
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Colman
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QUOTE(ferociousmoon @ May 6 2014, 22:47)  what's OFC?
im planning to fund for 1H with power armor now, stilll looking for the right 1h weapon.
which is better for 1H, rapier or a club.
1H do not use club. Axe for higher damage on the first hit. Rapier for higher damage for tough monster + more parry.
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May 6 2014, 17:21
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kos9494
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 6 2014, 22:41)  It does not matter at your level. 1H require lv 200+ to be useful. On early level, DW/2H should be better.
IMO DW and 1H are somehow worse than 2H at low difficulty (<200) since they only shine at high proficiency so they gain better damage from ability bonus (2H weapons have higher raw power thus not needing ability bonus to raise damage at low level) and satisfactory strike chance (2H with 0 proficiency still grants 40%++ Domino Strike chance) and at high difficulty, which low level will most likely not be attempting. Still, 2H sucks when it comes to high level AND high difficulty cuz they can't stun+penetrated armor at the same time like DW's Club+Rapier does. QUOTE(TheRapture @ May 6 2014, 22:06)  Wait wait wait, I feel like I've been tricked.
1H is strictly better than 2H and DW? Dafuq?
In fact, 1H + Power is the combined strength of DW+Shade and 2H+Shade. Correct me if I'm wrong. DW+Shade is still a good option as it is cheap to build and it can perform almost as well as 1H+Power in Arenas. (The price of a full Legendary Shade set with good roll is equal if not a little more than a single Legendary Shield with LMax Block you see. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ) You can still play DW at high difficulty in place of 1H + Power and 2H at low difficulty. If you play them both, you can even attempt Niten Ichiryuu which is a very fast melee style (done by Sir etothex) in doing Hellfest without OFC. This post has been edited by kos9494: May 6 2014, 17:35
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May 6 2014, 18:37
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(ferociousmoon @ May 7 2014, 00:47)  what's OFC?
im planning to fund for 1H with power armor now, stilll looking for the right 1h weapon.
which is better for 1H, rapier or a club.
shortsword at low level, rapier at high level, axe only works when you have very high block and youre not doing SG, club doesnt work with 1H By high level, I mean 300+ This post has been edited by holy_demon: May 6 2014, 18:45
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May 6 2014, 18:49
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 7 2014, 01:21)  IMO DW and 1H are somehow worse than 2H at low difficulty (<200) since they only shine at high proficiency so they gain better damage from ability bonus (2H weapons have higher raw power thus not needing ability bonus to raise damage at low level) and satisfactory strike chance (2H with 0 proficiency still grants 40%++ Domino Strike chance) and at high difficulty, which low level will most likely not be attempting.
Best low level style is the style that can do RE PFUDOR the earliest with little investment (no forging or IW) so you can rush into high level All the power levelers (ie level 300 in a month) are 1H+Shade or Leather (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by holy_demon: May 6 2014, 18:53
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