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Nah, we've been nerfed several times in succession. Now it's your turn! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thanks to a certain Troller-kun... and to rub salt on wounds, they sicced hordes of terrible, skull-reaping monsters on us.
Also, I'd say melees is simply way underpowered is all, especially 2H and Niten. Everything else is fine as it is, except for a few buffs.

I was pissed that I did all the arenas and got 0 artifacts so I figured that I might check the item drops, seems this dropped. Is this thing worth anything or is it a troll drop? Its ranges don't seem that impressive.

Legendary Ethereal Axe of Slaughter

I'd say it's worth auctioning, at least...

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 6 2014, 11:28

Id prefer DW and 2H to suck less and mage to suck more. Keep 1H as it is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

as a former, DW/2h user, i'd really wish DW/2h suck a lot less,

DW is suppose to do the most damage + crits & 2h is suppose to overpower a group of enemies with domino strike.

however, somehow 1h+sheild does both. arguably better. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

perma-spirit stance makes 1h effective damage output(excluding counters&OFC) higher than DW & counters are more useful than domino strike in terms of handling a group of guys.

I was pissed that I did all the arenas and got 0 artifacts so I figured that I might check the item drops, seems this dropped. Is this thing worth anything or is it a troll drop? Its ranges don't seem that impressive.

Legendary Ethereal Axe of Slaughter

imo, actually, a pretty good drop, especially, for DW. i'd imagine some people will pay ~2 million for it.

@m118: Thanks for the advice but I don't have OFC
Well, there's me too. And don't listen to treesloth.

Let's just assume that people have invested too much in 1H to not talk about it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Still, 1H is considered better than DW in most cases. The only proper reason DW is used is to sync with 2H to get Niten for doing <BT difficulty marathon at about the same speed as Mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I was pissed that I did all the arenas and got 0 artifacts so I figured that I might check the item drops, seems this dropped. Is this thing worth anything or is it a troll drop? Its ranges don't seem that impressive.

Legendary Ethereal Axe of Slaughter

Axe is mainly for DW as 1H using an Axe performs very badly at high difficulty I guess? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
And since axe is mostly for DW, its price is gonna be low because-

DW, 2H sucks a fat, hairy, stinky, syphilitic, AIDs infested dick, compared to 1H.

This post has been edited by kos9494: May 6 2014, 11:28

however, somehow 1h+sheild does both. arguably better. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

yeah, 1H does higher damage better than DW. 1H does domino strike better than 2H. Ridiculous.

Axe is mainly for DW as 1H using an Axe performs very badly at high difficulty I guess? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
And since axe is mostly for DW, its price is gonna be low because-

DW is decent at high diffs, simply for the skills. Estoc is okay at low diffs. But try playing estoc on PFUDOR in gfest; you'll want to impale yourself with it after a couple of rounds.

yeah, 1H does higher damage better than DW. 1H does domino strike better than 2H. Ridiculous.
DW is decent at high diffs, simply for the skills. Estoc is okay at low diffs. But try playing estoc on PFUDOR in gfest; you'll want to impale yourself with it after a couple of rounds.

No kidding... Tenbero didn't state he'll nerf the estocs to death for nothing, cuz you can't bring one on PFUDOR...

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 6 2014, 11:38

Axe is mainly for DW as 1H using an Axe performs very badly at high difficulty I guess? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
And since axe is mostly for DW, its price is gonna be low because-

as long as you've a good enough shield/block, an Axe can perform as good as an rapier for non-SG stuff. non-SG arenas, IW, Grindfest, etc at high difficulty.

you just've to forge the shit out of the axe. i'd imagine lv5 butcher + leg (non-ethereal) Axe + 90+lvls of damage upgrade can do 50%(?!) more damage as a rapier with similar upgrades.

as long as you've a good enough shield/block, an Axe can perform as good as an rapier for non-SG stuff. non-SG arenas, IW, Grindfest, etc at high difficulty.

you just've to forge the shit out of the axe. i'd imagine lv5 butcher + leg (non-ethereal) Axe + 90+lvls of damage upgrade can do 50%(?!) more damage as a rapier with similar upgrades.

Ethereal discrimination I see.
Well not being able to efficiently do SGs alone can give axe a good bring-down.

yeah, 1H does higher damage better than DW. 1H does domino strike better than 2H. Ridiculous.

We should buff DW and 2H, plus nerf 1H at that.

Say, what about lowering down the number limit of counter attack to one? And only the one that's being targeted can be countered?
Completely remove the OC bonus from counter attack sounds like a good idea too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Each target successfully hit by Domino strike gives 1~3% OC; Each offhand strike gives 3~7% OC or something might be tasty... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by kos9494: May 6 2014, 11:48

Ethereal discrimination I see.
Well not being able to do SGs alone can give axe a good bring-down.

not really, but burden isn't such a huge deal to power users. however, it is towards shade. 15 pts burden can mean a less evade + speed bonus.

power users just use "cheap" featherweight shard and calls it a day.

Does anyone know how much better the loot quality bonus for Triple Trio and the Tree is compared to FSM? Thinking about switching to doing FSM every day instead of TT&T every other day.

i'd imagine lv5 butcher + leg (non-ethereal) Axe + 90+lvls of damage upgrade can do 50%(?!) more damage as a rapier with similar upgrades.

Yes, an axe has naturally 1.45x more WD than a rapier according to the wiki.
If I wield an axe silimiar to my current leg rapier whose WD is 2022 with forged x50, my AD will be increased from 9618 to 10528. About 10% damage output increase.
But the ratio will be increased to those who gain less AD from their gears.

Does anyone know how much better the loot quality bonus for Triple Trio and the Tree is compared to FSM? Thinking about switching to doing FSM every day instead of TT&T every other day.

As you know, TT&T obviously gives an overall better LQB than FSM, but I don't know the exact gap between them.
There's someone who gets the best drop from an arena bonus of 1 page, while someone don't get any legendaries from TT&T, so...
BTW my best drops - leg force shield, leg frugal heimdall, leg savage shades, leg plate protections, and 10x leg wakis (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) - are mostly based on daily TT&T and DwD after 25/25 LotD. So I'd prefer 1 TT&T to 2 FSM.
But this is just my opinion. A noodle is not only worth 50~60k credits, but a chance to get a decent equipment for those who shrine it by themselves.

The best option is to get 15+ blood tokens and go both TT&T and FSM everyday. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by Cats Lover: May 6 2014, 12:24

Nah, we've been nerfed several times in succession. Now it's your turn! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Well melee is still considered inferior than mage at endgame. Nerfing melee's most viable style 1H will practically drive all melee user to mage (holy partifularly) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And then people will complain about crazy inflation caused by imbalance

I mean its already happening. Pretty much all 350+ 1H mains are thinking about switching to mage. Melee now serves like a stepping stone to grind for capital for mage gears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

The best option is to get 15+ blood tokens and go both TT&T and FSM everyday. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Easier said than done (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by holy_demon: May 6 2014, 12:40

Easier said than done (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I wanna sell the extra blood tokens if I could. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I wanna sell the extra blood tokens if I could. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

hmm I should try doing hellfest all day instead of doing arena. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

I wanna sell the extra blood tokens if I could. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I wanna buy them. Up to 10k each.

hmm I should try doing hellfest all day instead of doing arena. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

And I can't even do arena runs on my home net connection...

Also, working on ability spreadsheet, and boy it certainly is development hell to get the formulas to work...

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 6 2014, 13:12

Mmm...then I guess all melee except 1H should be buffed while mages should be nerfed.

I'm thinking about DW off-hand does 100% and cap on speed from AGI be removed.

Honestly I would be happier if TenB would balance the game more rather than getting funny ideas about "rapair cost" over his head.

Mmm...then I guess all melee except 1H should be buffed while mages should be nerfed.

Absolutely.

Honestly I would be happier if TenB would balance the game more rather than getting funny ideas about "rapair cost" over his head.

No, we need his funny ideas, otherwise there won't be any tasty whining in every patch thread. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

This post has been edited by Evil Scorpio: May 6 2014, 13:27

Mmm...then I guess all melee except 1H should be buffed while mages should be nerfed.

As if the mages wasn't nerfed enough already... I guess the dark mages must've really sucks for it to not to be put into the to-buff list... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

No, we need his funny ideas, otherwise there won't be any tasty whining in every patch thread. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

You... just have to say that, didn't you? The word "troll" must've been kind to you... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 6 2014, 13:38

Absolutely.
No, we need his funny ideas, otherwise there won't be any tasty whining in every patch thread. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Well, it's tasty until you happened to be one of the most adversely affected.

As if the mages wasn't nerfed enough already... I guess the dark mages must've really sucks for it to not to be put into the to-buff list... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

You... just have to say that, didn't you? The word "troll" must've been kind to you... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Sure you might feel that mage sucks dicks at our levels now but who knows once you go over 300 or something you run anything twice the speed of the melee me.

IT'S LIKE GETTING YOUR POTENTIAL UNLOCKED AND TURNING INTO ULTIMATE GOHAN LOSTLOGIA4 PAL.

Mmm...then I guess all melee except 1H should be buffed while mages should be nerfed.

I'm thinking about DW off-hand does 100% and cap on speed from AGI be removed.

Honestly I would be happier if TenB would balance the game more rather than getting funny ideas about "rapair cost" over his head.

I don't quite understand how the speed from AGI is capped. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Absolutely.
No, we need his funny ideas, otherwise there won't be any tasty whining in every patch thread. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

You sarcastic scorpion.

This post has been edited by kos9494: May 6 2014, 13:43

As if the mages wasn't nerfed enough already... I guess the dark mages must've really sucks for it to not to be put into the to-buff list... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Because GC is a dark mage.

Buff dark Mage > buff GC > GC clears GF faster > more tokens more crystals > buff in memories