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post May 4 2014, 21:49
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ May 5 2014, 02:07) *

PFUDOR ... why?
I still think it's rather slow ;(


What fighting style are u going with? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


QUOTE(kawaiikun @ May 5 2014, 03:00) *

Hi guys

So my stats right know:

Also, some questions:

what are the advantages of having a specific set?

Activating spirit stance with a figthing style with low prof consumes more overcharge?






-Stat is okay.
-Extend to IWBTH or even PFUDOR difficulty when playing REs, if you can afford doing so.
-Use Rapier if you're playing on high difficulty.
-Last but the most important one, UP YOUR LEVEL QUICKLY by doing Arenas or REs at high difficulty.

Your questions
*Specific set? You mean full heavy/light? If I'm not mistaken u get full bonus from equipping the same type of armors and you don't have to switch around light and heavy armor ability.
*I don't think prof. has anything to do with OC consumption.

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post May 4 2014, 22:06
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QUOTE(kawaiikun @ May 4 2014, 12:00) *

Hi guys

So my stats right know:

[pic]http://puu.sh/8z9wc.png[/pic]
And my equipment:

[pic]http://puu.sh/8z9Bn.png[/pic]
Anything i could improve?

Also, some questions:

what are the advantages of having a specific set?

Activating spirit stance with a figthing style with low prof consumes more overcharge?





Make sure your 1h & heavy abilities are slotted.
Replace your Helmet & Boots with Power from the Free Shop.
"Face Rolling" doesn't really start fully until 200 prof. The misses & monster evades eat up your overcharge, and only having 1 counter slows the gathering of extra overcharge.
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post May 4 2014, 22:10
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MY STATS:

(IMG:[dl.dropbox.com] https://dl.dropbox.com/s/1zn99o118ddgdvh/stats.jpg)

MY EQUIPMENT:

[OH-W-01] Exquisite Fiery Wakizashi of Slaughter
[TH-K-01] Legendary Fiery Katana of Slaughter

[L-S-01] Exquisite Shade Helmet of the Fleet
[L-S-02] Exquisite Savage Shade Breastplate of the Fleet
[L-S-03] Exquisite Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet
[L-S-04] Exquisite Shade Leggings of Negation
[L-S-05] Exquisite Shade Boots of the Fleet

AVALIABLE EQUIPMENT

[OH-W-01] Exquisite Wakizashi of Swiftness
[OH-W-02] Exquisite Wakizashi of Swiftness
[OH-W-03] Exquisite Wakizashi of Balance
[OH-W-04] Exquisite Wakizashi of the Nimble
[OH-W-05] Exquisite Wakizashi of Slaughter
[OH-W-06] Exquisite Wakizashi of Slaughter
[OH-W-07] Exquisite Wakizashi of the Nimble

[TH-K-01] Exquisite Tempestuous Katana of Balance
[TH-K-02] Exquisite Katana of Slaughter
[TH-K-03] Exquisite Katana of Slaughter

TRAINING:
(IMG:[dl.dropboxusercontent.com] https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/lpzq1zvofs2b9ir/TRAINING.jpg)

QUESTIONS:

I recently switched from "DW + Heavy" to "NITEN ICHITYUU + Light" and I want some advices on the equipment and playstyle.

my main interest are arena and IW

Should I use heavy or light armor

what stats should I look for on my equipment (especially on the armor and which are the best)

what infusions to use

what abilities should I use

what primary attributes to lvl up

what battle items to use (14 slots + 2S + 2N)

what training should I do

when I battle which monsters should I focus on first

also any tips are welcomed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

thank you for your time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post May 4 2014, 22:13
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QUOTE(something @ May 4 2014, 21:00) *

slow compared to who? dani?
considering it takes me ~60mins to get through PFUDOR T&T i'd say that's just fine. you must have either a fast connection or a stable one(mine keeps bouncing between 100 and 600)

out of curiousity, how many turns does it take for you to finish a round on average(not counting ED or DwD)? for me it's somewhere between 20-40, depending on how hard the mob is and if i'm getting trolled


I hadn't considered latency ... 50-100ms per request, usually it's the other way round from europe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I'd say it takes me 25-45 rounds on average (lower bound just now was 17, upper bound was 62, not counting ofc rounds) at least for non-boss monsters.
SG rounds usually take 60 turns for 1 SG, 90-120 for 2 SG. Although DwD after round 113 is back to about 120 rounds since i don't focus anymore ;P

QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 4 2014, 21:49) *

What fighting style are u going with? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

1H + Force Shield + Power

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post May 4 2014, 22:14
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QUOTE(AIDSFART2011 @ May 4 2014, 15:47) *

Now it's over, I cannot train Adept Leaner anymore with the current Credits output.
How do I gain more?
The creeps only drop EQ und crystals and maybe some credits but in two-digits.
I've been selling off the equips for some pocketchange and pots but also investing in Adept Learner, this really drops my money. I am also converting a lot of my GP into Credits but I've fallen to around 20 emergency kGP so I cant do that anymore.
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play in highest difficulty possible when doing arenas and RE to get to level 200 asap. at that point you'll be able to farm FSM for noodles, which you can sell to other players for ~60k each.

do the other RoBs on normal at least once get the clear bonuses they have, then grind arenas for blood tokens to spend on FSM on whatever difficulty you want(some would say only face him on PFUDOR, but since you have 0/25 LotD it won't make a difference)
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post May 4 2014, 22:32
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QUOTE(something @ May 4 2014, 22:14) *

play in highest difficulty possible when doing arenas and RE to get to level 200 asap. at that point you'll be able to farm FSM for noodles, which you can sell to other players for ~60k each.

do the other RoBs on normal at least once get the clear bonuses they have, then grind arenas for blood tokens to spend on FSM on whatever difficulty you want(some would say only face him on PFUDOR, but since you have 0/25 LotD it won't make a difference)


Thanks!
Is Arena the only place where I can receive Tokens of Blood?
In my entire time playing this, I've only gotten hold to two Tokens (didn't remember where I had them, but I did),
once I died, the second time I won.
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post May 4 2014, 22:32
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QUOTE(something @ May 4 2014, 22:14) *

QUOTE(AIDSFART2011 @ May 4 2014, 21:47) *

Now it's over, I cannot train Adept Leaner anymore with the current Credits output.
How do I gain more?
The creeps only drop EQ und crystals and maybe some credits but in two-digits.
I've been selling off the equips for some pocketchange and pots but also investing in Adept Learner, this really drops my money. I am also converting a lot of my GP into Credits but I've fallen to around 20 emergency kGP so I cant do that anymore.
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play in highest difficulty possible when doing arenas and RE to get to level 200 asap. at that point you'll be able to farm FSM for noodles, which you can sell to other players for ~60k each.

do the other RoBs on normal at least once get the clear bonuses they have, then grind arenas for blood tokens to spend on FSM on whatever difficulty you want(some would say only face him on PFUDOR, but since you have 0/25 LotD it won't make a difference)

You may also want to invest in Pack Rat, since it allows you to play at higher difficulty, and thus higher credit drops and of course exp.

If you have spare chaos tokens and crystals, create some new monsters in the monster lab, bring them to 25 and visit them once per day for feeding and hopefully to collect some bindings to sell in WTB.
Depending on your luck this can make some nice extra income for almost free.

QUOTE(AIDSFART2011 @ May 4 2014, 22:32) *

Thanks!
Is Arena the only place where I can receive Tokens of Blood?
In my entire time playing this, I've only gotten hold to two Tokens (didn't remember where I had them, but I did),
once I died, the second time I won.

Tokens can drop everywhere, but arena is the most common place to find them since they can drop as Token Bonus at the end of the arena. You either get Chaos or Blood Tokens this way. Higher Arenas have a higher chance for this bonus to occur, so the higher difficulty arenas have a higher chance to give a Token.]
Acquiring tokens from normal drops is rather rare since the drop chance is quite low.

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post May 4 2014, 22:37
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QUOTE(Flame Ryu @ May 4 2014, 13:10) *

MY STATS:

(IMG:[dl.dropbox.com] https://dl.dropbox.com/s/1zn99o118ddgdvh/stats.jpg)

MY EQUIPMENT:

[OH-W-01] Exquisite Fiery Wakizashi of Slaughter
[TH-K-01] Legendary Fiery Katana of Slaughter

[L-S-01] Exquisite Shade Helmet of the Fleet
[L-S-02] Exquisite Savage Shade Breastplate of the Fleet
[L-S-03] Exquisite Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet
[L-S-04] Exquisite Shade Leggings of Negation
[L-S-05] Exquisite Shade Boots of the Fleet

AVALIABLE EQUIPMENT

[OH-W-01] Exquisite Wakizashi of Swiftness
[OH-W-02] Exquisite Wakizashi of Swiftness
[OH-W-03] Exquisite Wakizashi of Balance
[OH-W-04] Exquisite Wakizashi of the Nimble
[OH-W-05] Exquisite Wakizashi of Slaughter
[OH-W-06] Exquisite Wakizashi of Slaughter
[OH-W-07] Exquisite Wakizashi of the Nimble

[TH-K-01] Exquisite Tempestuous Katana of Balance
[TH-K-02] Exquisite Katana of Slaughter
[TH-K-03] Exquisite Katana of Slaughter

TRAINING:
(IMG:[dl.dropboxusercontent.com] https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/lpzq1zvofs2b9ir/TRAINING.jpg)

QUESTIONS:

I recently switched from "DW + Heavy" to "NITEN ICHITYUU + Light" and I want some advices on the equipment and playstyle.

my main interest are arena and IW

Should I use heavy or light armor

what stats should I look for on my equipment (especially on the armor and which are the best)

what infusions to use

what abilities should I use

what primary attributes to lvl up

what battle items to use (14 slots + 2S + 2N)

what training should I do

when I battle which monsters should I focus on first

also any tips are welcomed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

thank you for your time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


Improve your 2h skill... alot. Get a Superior Eth Mace on the cheap and get your skill up.
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post May 4 2014, 22:39
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ May 4 2014, 16:13) *

I hadn't considered latency ... 50-100ms per request, usually it's the other way round from europe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

1H + Force Shield + Power


It's not the latency that kills me it's the flickering. Chrome is full-on seizure inducing. FF is slow as balls. IE is a trap. I've tried everything and it's either slow and visually non-assaulting or fast as hell and looks like I'm raving.
No happy mediums. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

My power set with full infusion/shard and rapier/force shield is not the fastest but it is safe as hell. Surprisingly so. TT&T'd twice in two days and finished in ~1000 turns and never got under 80% health. Course I use last exlir's only so that could also be a big part.

10m to go before I finally get that leg rapier, scrap this one and start forging anew. So looking forward to it, despite knowing it's only gonna be a modest gain at best.

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post May 4 2014, 22:50
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QUOTE(Flame Ryu @ May 5 2014, 04:10) *

I recently switched from "DW + Heavy" to "NITEN ICHITYUU + Light" and I want some advices on the equipment and playstyle.

thank you for your time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


To me, DW proficiency isn't as important as 2H prof. mainly because:

- Dmg and Parry ability which are more useful come from 2H, not DW.

- Domino strike dmg/range is capped at 100 2H-prof, but the chance is not, and you'll definitely need high Domino strike chance to be efficient.

- DW abilities only offer Acc. and Crit. chance to Niten which is a little shitty... Heck, if Niten's dmg ability comes from DW it'll be too OP. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

DW prof. is still important so don't forget to grind them too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post May 4 2014, 22:54
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QUOTE(dnbdave @ May 4 2014, 22:39) *

It's not the latency that kills me it's the flickering. Chrome is full-on seizure inducing. FF is slow as balls. IE is a trap. I've tried everything and it's either slow and visually non-assaulting or fast as hell and looks like I'm raving.
No happy mediums. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

My power set with full infusion/shard and rapier/force shield is not the fastest but it is safe as hell. Surprisingly so. TT&T'd twice in two days and finished in ~1000 turns and never got under 80% health. Course I use last exlir's only so that could also be a big part.

10m to go before I finally get that leg rapier, scrap this one and start forging anew. So looking forward to it, despite knowing it's only gonna be a modest gain at best.

Try Iron (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Same as Chrome, but doesn't flicker. Just crashes from time to time, but Chrome does that as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

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post May 4 2014, 22:57
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Firefox does job well, using it separately from Chrome just for HV.
Try portable or at least clean version of it.

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post May 4 2014, 23:25
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QUOTE(AIDSFART2011 @ May 4 2014, 22:32) *

Thanks!
Is Arena the only place where I can receive Tokens of Blood?
In my entire time playing this, I've only gotten hold to two Tokens (didn't remember where I had them, but I did),
once I died, the second time I won.

From the wiki:
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These rarely drop in normal battles. They are primarily obtained as Arena and Ring of Blood clear bonus drops or from The Lotteries. Tokens cannot be sold to the Item Shop, sent via MoogleMail, or be exchanged for other tokens.
Token of Blood: Can be used for the chance to face powerful monsters in the Ring of Blood.
Chaos Token: Used in the Monster Lab to create new monster slots and upgrade various stats of monsters.

Dammit I'm blind. Ignore this post if possible and I apologize for the inconvenience.

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post May 5 2014, 01:33
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Welp, Iron flickers just the same as Chrome does. Fuck that link too... adware installing piece of garbage. Easier to get offa SourceForge as a DD. Up the same creek, still no paddle. ARGH. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

So FF clean worked fine for a few rounds, then slowed right back down. It's like my browsers are telling me to go outside or something I swear.

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QUOTE(dnbdave @ May 5 2014, 05:39) *

It's not the latency that kills me it's the flickering. Chrome is full-on seizure inducing. FF is slow as balls. IE is a trap.


yes, there's no good browser (yet) I have seen, not even Iron. There's some kind of giant memory sink built into all those browsers, so I have to restart FF once a day.

QUOTE(dnbdave @ May 5 2014, 08:33) *

It's like my browsers are telling me to go outside or something I swear.


Or get outside and meet real girlz..... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post May 5 2014, 02:13
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 4 2014, 14:49) *

What fighting style are u going with? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
-Stat is okay.
-Extend to IWBTH or even PFUDOR difficulty when playing REs, if you can afford doing so.
-Use Rapier if you're playing on high difficulty.
-Last but the most important one, UP YOUR LEVEL QUICKLY by doing Arenas or REs at high difficulty.

Your questions
*Specific set? You mean full heavy/light? If I'm not mistaken u get full bonus from equipping the same type of armors and you don't have to switch around light and heavy armor ability.
*I don't think prof. has anything to do with OC consumption.


-2H or 1H Rapier, and why is better?

QUOTE(Drakewyn @ May 4 2014, 15:06) *

Make sure your 1h & heavy abilities are slotted.
Replace your Helmet & Boots with Power from the Free Shop.
"Face Rolling" doesn't really start fully until 200 prof. The misses & monster evades eat up your overcharge, and only having 1 counter slows the gathering of extra overcharge.


Thanks guys, but i think im pretty slow, and i think i need to change my Fighting style after watching this video:

Video


That guy surely does it fast with that lot of damage

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My chrome actually started flickering 2 days ago so I had to change back to FF. It was working just fine before that. I wonder what caused that change (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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My chrome actually started flickering 2 days ago so I had to change back to FF. It was working just fine before that. I wonder what caused that change (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


Probably related to this issue

[code.google.com] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=253388

Starting to see this again on Chromium for some reason

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slow compared to who? dani?
considering it takes me ~60mins to get through PFUDOR T&T i'd say that's just fine. you must have either a fast connection or a stable one(mine keeps bouncing between 100 and 600)

out of curiousity, how many turns does it take for you to finish a round on average(not counting ED or DwD)? for me it's somewhere between 20-40, depending on how hard the mob is and if i'm getting trolled
Tbh having to spend 3 hours to clear all SG arenas is borderline slow for me as well, if only because I have to go to Netcafe for that. Sure it's quite fast to be able to clear such a lengthy run in a few hours, but when you have a short time limit or otherwise have little time to spend on HV like I do then any arenas that takes >1 hour is simply too slow and longass really.
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Tbh having to spend 3 hours to clear all SG arenas is borderline slow for me as well, if only because I have to go to Netcafe for that. Sure it's quite fast to be able to clear such a lengthy run in a few hours, but when you have a short time limit or otherwise have little time to spend on HV like I do then any arenas that takes >1 hour is simply too slow and longass really.


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) You don't even have access to DwD yet.
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