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post May 3 2014, 22:15
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 3 2014, 10:21) *

Ohhh I see I see.
Yeah I asked that exactly because I noticed sir etothex having 11% block without shield... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


Try disarming your shield and see how much block you get from your empty offhand - I have 8% without shield, 41% with. I wonder how much block is etothex is actually getting from his shielding plate gear, I know I am not getting any from my Shade because I've tried disarming everything except for the Rapier and the block chance remains unchanged at 8%.
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post May 3 2014, 22:26
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QUOTE(ferociousmoon @ May 3 2014, 12:52) *

for 2-H which is btter?

mace or estoc?

lately i saw so many people going for mace.
been trying to buy one, but the price keep jumping to 400~500k for ex ethereal


Estoc does more damage, but Mace is safer.

When I want to use 2h, I use an Illithid Mace and can often go 80+ rounds on BT without needing a Mana Potion.

But then, I do have pretty good gear. A Slaughter Mace would do 50% more damage per swing, and I could probably find one with a longer Stun duration, too.

Overall, don't bother with an Ethereal Mace if you're wearing Plate/Power. The extra cost isn't worth it compared to an Elemental/Holy/Dark one.

If you're using Leather/Shade, then Ethereal is more important.
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post May 3 2014, 23:53
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Is it worth spending time to IW this rapier http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=76ec744df4 or is the lack of ethereal and only 2 PAB's make it not too good? The damage is pretty decent and the PA is quite okay too.

Should I just save up credits and buy a better rapier and work on that one instead?
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post May 4 2014, 00:57
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QUOTE(Kazetenshi @ May 3 2014, 14:53) *

Is it worth spending time to IW this rapier http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=76ec744df4 or is the lack of ethereal and only 2 PAB's make it not too good? The damage is pretty decent and the PA is quite okay too.

Should I just save up credits and buy a better rapier and work on that one instead?


I would not consider a 2 pab rapier with mere SMax ADB as a weapon of choice for a long term use. If it had an L or MMax ADB, I'd think real hard about it. I think you will be better off looking for another to Level up instead of this one.
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post May 4 2014, 01:03
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QUOTE(Kazetenshi @ May 3 2014, 14:53) *

Is it worth spending time to IW this rapier http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=76ec744df4 or is the lack of ethereal and only 2 PAB's make it not too good? The damage is pretty decent and the PA is quite okay too.

Should I just save up credits and buy a better rapier and work on that one instead?

lack of dex (on exq rapier) is only like 15-20 pts of damage. a bit of spirit and maybe 1%parry. It's more a question of how long it takes you, and if you are willing to put in the time for it. I'm totally ok w/ IWing random Exqs for myself, cuz it's like 8 min a run for me; unlikely as fast for you.

Always good to "wait for a better one" to come along, but you never know how long that will be (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

@zen_zen you make it sound like mmax+ slaughter rapiers are just sitting around in groups waiting to be bought for a decent price (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post May 4 2014, 01:16
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ May 4 2014, 04:15) *

Try disarming your shield and see how much block you get from your empty offhand - I have 8% without shield, 41% with. I wonder how much block is etothex is actually getting from his shielding plate gear, I know I am not getting any from my Shade because I've tried disarming everything except for the Rapier and the block chance remains unchanged at 8%.


I'd believe ~80% of his block came from his "Shield" leggings not "Shielding" boots. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 4 2014, 03:02
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I finally cleared a dance with dragons on Nintendo... took a few hours, glad I didn't go any higher in difficulty cuz it took forever! But I was able to clear it without using potions until round 145, didn't have to but it got so boring so I had to end it faster.

I got this at the end, is it worth anything?

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post May 4 2014, 03:14
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QUOTE(darkx @ May 4 2014, 03:02) *

I finally cleared a dance with dragons on Nintendo... took a few hours, glad I didn't go any higher in difficulty cuz it took forever! But I was able to clear it without using potions until round 145, didn't have to but it got so boring so I had to end it faster.

I got this at the end, is it worth anything?

Exquisite Amber Force Shield of Deflection


Low block rate and no str (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) maybe a few thousand credits?
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post May 4 2014, 03:38
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QUOTE(Kazetenshi @ May 3 2014, 21:14) *

Low block rate and no str (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) maybe a few thousand credits?


Dang
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post May 4 2014, 03:40
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QUOTE(darkx @ May 3 2014, 18:02) *

I finally cleared a dance with dragons on Nintendo... took a few hours, glad I didn't go any higher in difficulty cuz it took forever! But I was able to clear it without using potions until round 145, didn't have to but it got so boring so I had to end it faster.

I got this at the end, is it worth anything?

Exquisite Amber Force Shield of Deflection


Even that low of block & no STR, you could probably get 20k out of it.
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post May 4 2014, 04:39
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QUOTE(etothex @ May 3 2014, 16:03) *

lack of dex (on exq rapier) is only like 15-20 pts of damage. a bit of spirit and maybe 1%parry. It's more a question of how long it takes you, and if you are willing to put in the time for it. I'm totally ok w/ IWing random Exqs for myself, cuz it's like 8 min a run for me; unlikely as fast for you.

Always good to "wait for a better one" to come along, but you never know how long that will be (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

@zen_zen you make it sound like mmax+ slaughter rapiers are just sitting around in groups waiting to be bought for a decent price (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


If you take away 15-20 points of damage from that axe, it becomes pretty run of the mill (perhaps slightly better). It certainly won't be a an equipment worthy of sending out for levelling. As a transitional gear, levelling it to level 5 by the owner to reveal it's potency could prove interesting. If you can get Butcher 5, that can change the complexion of things immensely.

I guess I was being a tad optimistic about the abundance of slaughter rapiers - looking at the the recent auction results along with what WTS sellers are asking for a Slaughter rapier, the price point for what constitutes a "decent" price need to be adjusted upwards quite significantly. This is just another typical runaway inflation in HV caused by 1H being in vogue at the moment. I think it was around October of last year, I was paying 6k for bindings of Balance and Isaac. Now, they are 20k each minimum. If I want to forge accuracy and crit chance, I have to suck it up and pay the going rate for these bindings. The saddest part is that soon you start feeling relieved to have acquired them for 'only' 20k each... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

QUOTE(darkx @ May 3 2014, 18:02) *

I finally cleared a dance with dragons on Nintendo... took a few hours, glad I didn't go any higher in difficulty cuz it took forever! But I was able to clear it without using potions until round 145, didn't have to but it got so boring so I had to end it faster.

I got this at the end, is it worth anything?

Exquisite Amber Force Shield of Deflection


If you did not end up needing a potion until 145th round, you are definitely playing below your level. Time to step it up to BT, tomorrow. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post May 4 2014, 05:04
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ May 3 2014, 22:39) *

If you did not end up needing a potion until 145th round, you are definitely playing below your level. Time to step it up to BT, tomorrow. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


I don't think I'll be playing it on a higher difficulty any time soon... it took me 4 hours to clear on nintendo! I can only imagine it would take an extra hour or two to complete it at higher difficulty levels

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post May 4 2014, 05:12
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Is there any way to calculate the pre-forged stats and initial PXP from an IWed item (assuming the latter is not maxed)?
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post May 4 2014, 05:17
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ May 4 2014, 04:39) *

If you take away 15-20 points of damage from that axe, it becomes pretty run of the mill (perhaps slightly better). It certainly won't be a an equipment worthy of sending out for levelling. As a transitional gear, levelling it to level 5 by the owner to reveal it's potency could prove interesting. If you can get Butcher 5, that can change the complexion of things immensely.

I guess I was being a tad optimistic about the abundance of slaughter rapiers - looking at the the recent auction results along with what WTS sellers are asking for a Slaughter rapier, the price point for what constitutes a "decent" price need to be adjusted upwards quite significantly. This is just another typical runaway inflation in HV caused by 1H being in vogue at the moment. I think it was around October of last year, I was paying 6k for bindings of Balance and Isaac. Now, they are 20k each minimum. If I want to forge accuracy and crit chance, I have to suck it up and pay the going rate for these bindings. The saddest part is that soon you start feeling relieved to have acquired them for 'only' 20k each... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)



Yeah sadly rapiers of slaughter, especially ethereal ones are crazy expensive and out of my budget right now. Well pretty much anything is above my budget atm since right now I'm living in poverty haha.

I guess I'll probably slowly work on the rapier I currently have until I get my hands on a good rapier that I can actually forge. Hopefully my current main weapon http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a18926c9f0 will last me for the time being until I farm up enough credits for an upgrade.

To be honest though, is the rapier's PA really THAT amazing to justify its crazy price tag? Currently at my level, I breeze through Hell difficulty 1-2 shotting mobs with spirit stance on. I guess when I start doing SG runs on high difficulties the 75% shred becomes invaluable towards killing them quickly?
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post May 4 2014, 05:17
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First time seeing a Rare class boss in RE. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Do they even appear in RE seriously?

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post May 4 2014, 05:27
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First time seeing a Rare class boss in RE. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Do they even appear in RE seriously?

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Ive seen even SG in RE. Never see the Goddesses, Dragons or Gods though
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post May 4 2014, 05:32
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Yea they do I had came acrosse two of them last week in doing RE's.
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post May 4 2014, 05:32
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QUOTE(Kazetenshi @ May 4 2014, 11:17) *
Yeah sadly rapiers of slaughter, especially ethereal ones are crazy expensive and out of my budget right now. Well pretty much anything is above my budget atm since right now I'm living in poverty haha.

I guess I'll probably slowly work on the rapier I currently have until I get my hands on a good rapier that I can actually forge. Hopefully my current main weapon http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a18926c9f0 will last me for the time being until I farm up enough credits for an upgrade.

To be honest though, is the rapier's PA really THAT amazing to justify its crazy price tag? Currently at my level, I breeze through Hell difficulty 1-2 shotting mobs with spirit stance on. I guess when I start doing SG runs on high difficulties the 75% shred becomes invaluable towards killing them quickly?
I must say, the rapiers are quite popular, what with the Penetrated Armor proc being the most useful status proc against the SGs after the Bleeding Wound nerf (I think?), not to mention everything else. A defensive debuff against monsters is certainly useful against tankish monsters.

And that's before mentioning the high parry rate of a rapier of balance, only shortshort and wakizashi comes close to them.

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Never seen one in all of my Hentaiverse career, but I'd say the possibility is about the same as the Grindfest.
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post May 4 2014, 05:34
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I have a question for people who have tokenizer and play a lot. Does tokenizer 1 give you enough blood token to sustain both FSM and TT&T?
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I have a question for people who have tokenizer and play a lot. Does tokenizer 1 give you enough blood token to sustain both FSM and TT&T?
Iirc, tokenizer only affects chaos tokens for obvious reasons. Doublechecked, and yeah, from 4:1 to 9:1 according to wiki.

Then again, token grinders might have different opinion...

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