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post Apr 29 2014, 04:31
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How do you all determine value for equipment? I'd like to sell Superior Plate Cuirass of Warding and Superior Cotton Gloves of the Demon-Fiend, but I have no idea what they're worth.
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post Apr 29 2014, 04:36
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 29 2014, 10:24) *

I suppose he also grind PFest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) There's no way he can get that much exp from just arena (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


You might not even know if he shared him some of his godlike gears. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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post Apr 29 2014, 04:38
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 29 2014, 11:24) *

I suppose he also grind PFest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) There's no way he can get that much exp from just arena (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Yes, I suggested these simple and fundamental tips to maximize EXP earnings a day. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

- Keep raising up Adept Learner and Pack Rat as much as you can.
- Catch all the random encounters (24 times a day max) with highest difficulty.
- Run all the arena with highest difficulty you can go, and do IWBTHfest or PFUDORfest after daily arenas done.
- Keep stamina over 80 if possible. (He uses some Energy Drinks)

QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:36) *

You might not even know if he shared him some of his godlike gears. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I lent him some minimum gears, their grade is not hard to get freely, that sup~exq plate protections.
(I suggested that I will give him the better equips, but he rejected it.)
Moreover there's godlike FreeSHop nowadays! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(rsx2xsr @ Apr 29 2014, 11:20) *

just realized my inventory's getting full due to never bothering to go through it, is it safe to say that anything under Superior should just be NPC'ed?

Simpe answer: Bazzar fodder including superior one.

Some exceptions for superior)
- Keep it if you're using it now or will use it someday later as starter set, like sup ethereal slaughter weapon.
- Power slaughter gear which has near max ADB.

That is up to you because all the "generally worthless equipment" could be sold to low level players at WTS Shop.
But it may take a lot of time (maybe forever) and it would bother you for just 1~2k more credits per piece.

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post Apr 29 2014, 04:46
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QUOTE(TheRapture @ Apr 29 2014, 04:31) *

How do you all determine value for equipment? I'd like to sell Superior Plate Cuirass of Warding and Superior Cotton Gloves of the Demon-Fiend, but I have no idea what they're worth.

Cotton, plate, leather = worth nothing. Magnificent plate, power (with sweet PABz, etc) may cost something.
QUOTE(TheRapture @ Apr 29 2014, 04:31) *
I'd like to sell Superior Plate Cuirass of Warding and Superior Cotton Gloves of the Demon-Fiend, but I have no idea what they're worth.

200-300c.

QUOTE(rsx2xsr @ Apr 29 2014, 04:20) *
is it safe to say that anything under Superior should just be NPC'ed?

Under Exquisite, yeah.

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post Apr 29 2014, 05:31
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QUOTE(Mlee @ Apr 28 2014, 22:13)

How much should I pay for a good staff?

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or how do you tell a good staff from a bad one?

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post Apr 29 2014, 05:59
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 29 2014, 12:31) *

or how do you tell a good staff from a bad one?

Prefix/suffix matching or prefix/destruction

Ex+ Fiery Redwood of Surtr
Ex+ Fiery Redwood of Destruction

Ex+ Arctic Redwood of Niflheim
Ex+ Arctic Redwood of Destruction

Ex+ Shocking Redwood of Mjolnir
Ex+ Shocking Redwood of Destruction
Ex+ Shocking Willow of Destruction

Ex+ Tempestuous Redwood of Freyr
Ex+ Tempestuous Redwood of Destruction
Ex+ Tempestuous Willow of Destruction

Ex+ Hallowed Katalox of Heimdall
Ex+ Hallowed Katalox of Destruction
Ex+ Hallowed Oak of Heimdall

Ex+ Demonic Katalox of Fenrir
Ex+ Demonic Katalox of Destruction
Ex+ Demonic Willow of Destruction

It should have high MDB, EDB, Int and Wis, of course. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Apr 29 2014, 06:11
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QUOTE(Laboq @ Apr 29 2014, 12:46) *

Cotton, plate, leather = worth nothing. Magnificent plate, power (with sweet PABz, etc) may cost something.

200-300c.
Under Exquisite, yeah.

Superior power of slaughter can fetch a decent price if it got good ADB roll though :/
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post Apr 29 2014, 06:30
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 29 2014, 05:31) *

or how do you tell a good staff from a bad one?

QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Apr 29 2014, 05:59) *

It should have high MDB, EDB, Int and Wis, of course. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This. And the thing I told before: crit, pab, etc' balance which is usually better on Magnificents+.
QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 29 2014, 06:11) *

Superior power of slaughter can fetch a decent price if it got good ADB roll though :/

Go for it!:
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post Apr 29 2014, 06:39
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Yay... This little demonic kid dropped for me just right now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ...so, I guess I can auction this one now, right?! If so, how much can I expect? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(please, someone can give me some analisys on the demonic rapier?... it's a good one right?... is it worth to forge?)


Also... I'm going to Lv.10 the baby... should I go for Butcher Lv.5, Fatality Lv.5 or "whatever one of the two comes first"?


Thanks in advance... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Apr 29 2014, 06:42
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Apr 29 2014, 13:39) *

Yay... This little demonic kid dropped for me just right now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ...so, I guess I can auction this one now, right?! If so, how much can I expect? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(please, someone can give me some analisys on the demonic rapier?... it's a good one right?... is it worth to forge?)
Also... I'm going to Lv.10 the baby... should I go for Butcher Lv.5, Fatality Lv.5 or "whatever one of the two comes first"?
Thanks in advance... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


wow, nice drop! congrats... of course it's good, I would probably go for butcher5.

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post Apr 29 2014, 06:45
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Apr 28 2014, 21:39) *

Yay... This little demonic kid dropped for me just right now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ...so, I guess I can auction this one now, right?! If so, how much can I expect? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(please, someone can give me some analisys on the demonic rapier?... it's a good one right?... is it worth to forge?)
Also... I'm going to Lv.10 the baby... should I go for Butcher Lv.5, Fatality Lv.5 or "whatever one of the two comes first"?
Thanks in advance... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

about your exq eth, it has shitty damage, but rapiers are in demand, so 250k? +?

Nice, wish I'd get something nice from T&T. Butcher (for 1h right?) is best. Counter attacks don't crit. Forge it, will be hard to find something better, unless you want to throw money at an auction or lottery.

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post Apr 29 2014, 06:57
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QUOTE(etothex @ Apr 29 2014, 06:45) *
but rapiers are in demand

p\a' duration is extremely short. 5 turns is not enough for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
As for the demonic baby, now that's the million credits weapon. Cheers!
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post Apr 29 2014, 07:21
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Apr 29 2014, 06:39) *

Yay... This little demonic kid dropped for me just right now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ...so, I guess I can auction this one now, right?! If so, how much can I expect? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(please, someone can give me some analisys on the demonic rapier?... it's a good one right?... is it worth to forge?)
Also... I'm going to Lv.10 the baby... should I go for Butcher Lv.5, Fatality Lv.5 or "whatever one of the two comes first"?
Thanks in advance... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


congrats on that awesome rapier. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

aside from the parry% being "only" very good. other stats are great. imo, Butcher Lv.5, Fatality Lv.4, if you're going to forge it.

as for the ethereal one. i don't know. the damage & parry% are a bit low for my taste, but i guess some people will pay 200k for it.
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post Apr 29 2014, 07:23
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QUOTE(Laboq @ Apr 29 2014, 12:57) *
p\a' duration is extremely short. 5 turns is not enough for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
As for the demonic baby, now that's the million credits weapon. Cheers!
A legendary holy rapier is the best, but a demonic one is awesome too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Oh, just dropping by to... uh, post this list.
The infusion list for the upcoming Hellfest war.

03 Featherweight Shards
03 Voidseeker Shards
12 Infusions of Flames
12 Infusions of Darkness
... and 3*6=18 Infusions for each elements.

Aether Shards is totally optional, not gonna go squishy wizard way for the war.

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post Apr 29 2014, 07:28
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 29 2014, 07:21) *
but i guess some sucker will pay 200k for it.

FTFY.
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post Apr 29 2014, 07:29
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 29 2014, 07:23) *

A legendary holy rapier is the best, but a demonic one is awesome too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Oh, just dropping by to... uh, post this list.
The infusion list for the upcoming Hellfest war.

03 Featherweight Shards
03 Voidseeker Shards
12 Infusions of Flames
12 Infusions of Darkness
... and 3*6=18 Infusions for each elements.

Aether Shards is totally optional, not gonna go squishy wizard way for the war.


imo, i'll rather finish all the arenas first (for tokens/credits) then if i've time left i'll do hellfest (which is never for me.) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

iirc, last time it took me 6hrs to get to ~600rds.

QUOTE(Laboq @ Apr 29 2014, 07:28) *

FTFY.


nah, some people just hv way too much credits/haths. the price difference between 20k or 200k is just a drop in a bucket ocean for them. i still remember a Superior Power Slaughter gear got sold for 200k a few weeks ago.

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post Apr 29 2014, 07:57
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 29 2014, 13:29) *
imo, i'll rather finish all the arenas first (for tokens/credits) then if i've time left i'll do hellfest (which is never for me.) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Yeah, I'll gonna do the arenas someplace else (spend all morning near McDonald's WiFi), then go to Netcafe for the hellfest war itself, what with the grindfesting costs 30 Stamina from 99 or 20 Stamina from 79.

That, too, I already have a few awesome songs up the snuff: Start Up, Valhalla, Rage Awakened, Swordsland, Alert Sign and Omnis Lacrima among them (wait! I gave away all the songs atm!). Need moar songs. And a vid recording software that doesn't suck.

QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 29 2014, 13:29) *
iirc, last time it took me 6hrs to get to ~600rds.
1 minute just to get 1 round? You know, lugging heavy armor in 1H isn't the wisest thing to do while grindfesting, you need at least 2H for that... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

P.S. thanks for the potions.

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post Apr 29 2014, 09:06
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Thanks treesloth16, etothex, Laboq, malkatmp and LostLogia4... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


QUOTE(etothex @ Apr 29 2014, 01:45) *
about your exq eth, it has shitty damage, but rapiers are in demand, so 250k? +?

Yes... I knew it was not so good... well, i'll throw it in an auction and see what happens... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(etothex @ Apr 29 2014, 01:45) *
Nice, wish I'd get something nice from T&T.

That was my first useful Legendary drop... 'till then I had only 2 cottons and 1 leather... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (and a peerless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )...

Anyway, would be very pleased (even more 'cause my LotD is only at 18 ['am working on that])... but... I play mainly as mage... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


QUOTE(etothex @ Apr 29 2014, 01:45) *
Forge it, will be hard to find something better, unless you want to throw money at an auction or lottery.

Probably will not happen (at least not so soon)... as I said I'm playing as mage, actually my half-dusty 1H set is composed all for my own drops... and I'll probably never use my hard earned money to gamble in lottery... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 29 2014, 02:21) *
imo, Butcher Lv.5, Fatality Lv.4, if you're going to forge it.

Wow... I'm really not expecting that... too many resets and shards required... but I'll go for butcher Lv5... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 29 2014, 02:23) *
A legendary holy rapier is the best, but a demonic one is awesome too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yes, I think that too... but this is what Lordess Snowflake gave me, better be grateful and not enrage her... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 29 2014, 09:20
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 29 2014, 15:57) *

1 minute just to get 1 round? You know, lugging heavy armor in 1H isn't the wisest thing to do while grindfesting, you need at least 2H for that... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

P.S. thanks for the potions.


1H with OFC is faster than 2H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 29 2014, 09:56
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1H with OFC is faster than 2H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

no it's not. You're just less likely to finish w/ 2h. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) OFC doesn't exactly save heaps of time on hell difficulty as it does for PFUDOR.
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