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post Apr 28 2014, 22:16
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grrr... can't seem to figure why it wouldn't let me upload images.. I'll post the links if you don't mind. If you do, let me know, I'll try to upload it via some other domain:

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I understand that the mix of light/heavy armor that I have right now is prolly not a good way to go, but it's pretty much all I have anyway, so.. ;p
I got like 300k credits right now, not sure if it would be enough to improve my gear situation, so I'd also appreciate your input about what should I be spending money on. Thanks in advance!

gear stats scale with levels, and i'm not so good at understanding your current gears. could you replace them simply with equip links please?

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post Apr 28 2014, 22:18
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QUOTE(doesntmatterasd @ Apr 29 2014, 05:02) *

I got like 300k credits right now, not sure if it would be enough to improve my gear situation, so I'd also appreciate your input about what should I be spending money on. Thanks in advance!


should pick one type of armor and go with that.... skip niten for now, as you need profs, either 2h, DW, or 1H. 1H light is not bad. heavy isn't very good right now for anything but 1H, plus you have decent boots.... Find FREE gear. Too much training to do for you atm.
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post Apr 28 2014, 22:25
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you should also know that gear stats scale with levels, thus all those caps won't help understand your current gears. would you replace them simply with equip links please?


Sure thing. I didn't realize I could simply do that, thank you for looking into this for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=52f0de479f
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post Apr 28 2014, 22:32
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QUOTE(Mlee @ Apr 28 2014, 22:13) *

How much should I pay for a good staff?

60k.
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post Apr 28 2014, 22:32
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QUOTE(doesntmatterasd @ Apr 28 2014, 22:25) *

lol, much better.
as treesloth mentioned, boots semm good, but you should pick only one type of armor... i'd say shade, but you need to change helmet and gauntlets too because of their lack in PAB, i'd say you need at least 3 for each armor... as for katana, is it because you can't afford a slaughter one or do you really want to go with blance?
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post Apr 28 2014, 22:46
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Don't know why you guys are so down on maging at low levels. I've been maging since level 42 (!) And I'd say leave off maging till lv. 150 at least. But lv 300 is way too far.
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post Apr 28 2014, 22:53
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QUOTE(Aegnor Alkarin @ Apr 29 2014, 05:46) *

Don't know why you guys are so down on maging at low levels. I've been maging since level 42 (!) And I'd say leave off maging till lv. 150 at least. But lv 300 is way too far.


prob because it's hard to level fast as mage; can't play high diffs unless you have some god gear, and even then imperiling one/two mobs at a time probably sucks. But tbh, I don;t really know, I was >310 when 0.76 came out......
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post Apr 28 2014, 23:40
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Apr 28 2014, 16:53) *

prob because it's hard to level fast as mage; can't play high diffs unless you have some god gear, and even then imperiling one/two mobs at a time probably sucks. But tbh, I don;t really know, I was >310 when 0.76 came out......


For me personally I went from level 170-250 within two and a half weeks playing as a mage and I had only superior gear at the time. I don't believe it's a leveling issue

I wasn't able to play on very high difficulty, but I managed Hell & Nintendo

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post Apr 28 2014, 23:58
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Apr 28 2014, 22:53) *

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Don't know why you guys are so down on maging at low levels. I've been maging since level 42 (!) And I'd say leave off maging till lv. 150 at least. But lv 300 is way too far.

prob because it's hard to level fast as mage; can't play high diffs unless you have some god gear, and even then imperiling one/two mobs at a time probably sucks. But tbh, I don;t really know, I was >310 when 0.76 came out......


Long answer:
Maging at lower levels is nice, the problem is that you start facing more and more player created monsters as you progress. These monsters often have upward of 50% elemental restist, so you do less and less damage.
To offset this disadvantage you have to use Imperil to weaken the monters resistances. This takes some time in itself. To bring the time down and the effect of Imperil up you want maxed Better and Faster Imperil abilities.
But these only get unlocked later in your HV carreer (Faster Imperil @310, Better Imperil @330).

The second factor is that mages in basic gear are unbelievably squishey. To alleviate this you have to forge your gears into oblivion which costs quite a sum of credits (LostLogia4 has some calculations a couple pages back).
Also good mage gears are currently quite expensive themselves as some high-level players with more income pursue the mage path and sometimes have quite interesting bid-wars in auctions (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

As a side-thingy, imho mage-proficiencies take painfully long to go up in comparison to melee profs.

Meleeing on the other hand has less to deal with. First of all, mob specific physical resistances are fixed and can be bypassed with void-damage weapons which make you hit for 100% damage all the time.
You also get higher survivability since you armor abilities and armor gives you more health and survival in general when compared to cloth armor.

As treesloth mentioned, the biggest problem is probably increasing difficulty along the way, since you hit a wall at around level 170 (in my case) where you're kind of stuck and can't advance in difficulty.

The bottom line:
Meleeing is usually more advisable at lower levels because it's easier to play, safer and cheaper.
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post Apr 29 2014, 00:03
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QUOTE(darkx @ Apr 29 2014, 05:40) *

For me personally I went from level 170-250 within two and a half weeks playing as a mage and I had only superior gear at the time. I don't believe it's a leveling issue

I wasn't able to play on very high difficulty, but I managed Hell & Nintendo




Trust me, leveling fast (means playing REs and Arenas on high difficulty) using mage is definitely no easy thing at low levels unless you have OFC like our miku fan hereLostLogia4. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I went all the way from Lv. 10 to Lv.180 in just a single week using 2H and it took me another ~10 days to grind my DW prof. before I got to clear PF REs and reached Lv. 250. (Yup, I started playing HV at ~3 weeks ago if not any later)

It's certainly not the fastest, but if I were to go maging I won't even be half as fast. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

And again, I'm not saying one shouldn't mage at low levels but it is a fact that melee grinds level a lot faster than mage players, considering how many people are whining about it.
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post Apr 29 2014, 00:14
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I checked my inventory and I appeared to acquire an item called "Bubblegum"

The description is ambiguous, so what does it do?
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post Apr 29 2014, 00:17
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QUOTE(stingray970 @ Apr 29 2014, 00:14) *

I checked my inventory and I appeared to acquire an item called "Bubblegum"

The description is ambiguous, so what does it do?

better description
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post Apr 29 2014, 00:37
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 28 2014, 18:03) *

Trust me, leveling fast (means playing REs and Arenas on high difficulty) using mage is definitely no easy thing at low levels


Fair enough, but from my own experience jumping 80 levels within 3 weeks is considered fast leveling
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post Apr 29 2014, 03:18
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QUOTE(darkx @ Apr 29 2014, 07:40) *

For me personally I went from level 170-250 within two and a half weeks playing as a mage and I had only superior gear at the time. I don't believe it's a leveling issue

I wasn't able to play on very high difficulty, but I managed Hell & Nintendo


Not sure how much you play, but I think the current record is 0 to 300 in 1 month by tempasdf or something like that. He used 1H+Light IIRC. It's probably the best set up to do PFUDOR the earliest :/

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2014.02.03 - Level 000 - my inglizh is poor
2014.02.16 - Level 200 - equipment is even worse
2014.03.02 - Level 250 - 1H-250, L-250, sup-240, dep-140, lmn-100
2014.03.02 - Level 250 - IA1 - xp80, ap55, drop25/12/8/2, pr10 - posts:30
2014.03.09 - Level 275 - IA1 - xp141, ap68, drop25/14/9/2, pr10 - posts:45
2014.03.09 - Level 275 - 1H-275, L-275, sup-265, dep-225, lmn-100, 0 others
2014.03.18 - Level 300 - IA1 - xp160, ap90, drop25/17/9/3, pr10 - posts:56
2014.03.18 - Level 300 - 1H-300, L-300, sup-295, dep-280 ~,~ Dovahkiin


So 6 weeks. Try to beat that with maging (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Apr 29 2014, 03:20
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as for katana, is it because you can't afford a slaughter one or do you really want to go with blance?


It's actually because I didn't read about weapon suffixes until you asked me this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) So I should get slaughter? Or there's a better choice of weapon for my level? Not the best existing weapon I mean, but the one which would be fairly easy to attain..?
And thanks for the advices guys, I appreciate the input.
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post Apr 29 2014, 03:41
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QUOTE(Aegnor Alkarin @ Apr 29 2014, 05:46) *

Don't know why you guys are so down on maging at low levels. I've been maging since level 42 (!) And I'd say leave off maging till lv. 150 at least. But lv 300 is way too far.

Because we can raise level as melee from 0 to 200 in 3~4 days, and from 0 to 300 in 3~4 weeks with hard grinding nowadays.
But I'm not sure if this rate can be done as mage...
And as treesloth said, there's Imperil cooldown issue, as well.

Of course, not everyone wants quick growth, though. Someone may seek slow and easygoing play, or just don't have enough time to grind.

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 29 2014, 10:18) *

Not sure how much you play, but I think the current record is 0 to 300 in 1 month by tempasdf or something like that. He used 1H+Light IIRC. It's probably the best set up to do PFUDOR the earliest :/

EDIT: here, his sig
So 6 weeks. Try to beat that with maging (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

My friend's record from 0 to 300 is 23 days. I supported him with full know-how and tips, and he made it! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Apr 29 2014, 03:42
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Apr 29 2014, 01:06) *
don't play as a mage until you have amassed a shit load of credits.
Or at least a very reliable source of income, like H@H. And innate Arcana 3. I must say, this is the bare minimum to play as a mage for me.

QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Apr 28 2014, 20:55) *
(Yes! TBH I want to say 10B plz buff 2H and Niten, even though I'm 1H Heavy user from the beginning. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif))
Off topic, but I have a really good Niten skill in my mind, it's basically a powerful battoujustu like Amakakeru Ryū no Hirameki (天翔龍閃), except the second blow is done with the wakizashi. Both blows are as strong as 1H Merciful Blow, insta-kills low HP enemy. Heck, better make the waki bypass parry in Niten. And Overwhelming strike on 2H as wellm.

QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 29 2014, 06:03) *
Trust me, leveling fast (means playing REs and Arenas on high difficulty) using mage is definitely no easy thing at low levels unless you have OFC like our miku fan here LostLogia4. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I went all the way from Lv. 10 to Lv.180 in just a single week using 2H and it took me another ~10 days to grind my DW prof. before I got to clear PF REs and reached Lv. 250. (Yup, I started playing HV at ~3 weeks ago if not any later)

It's certainly not the fastest, but if I were to go maging I won't even be half as fast. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

And again, I'm not saying one shouldn't mage at low levels but it is a fact that melee grinds level a lot faster than mage players, considering how many people are whining about it.
Actually, no, mage won't do with PFUDOR RE really, in fact, OFC don't help mage setups very much. Even i do all my PFUDOR RE on 1H+force shield+light armor+OFC at first, then DW rapier+OFC, and i only gain a win streak as a holy mage very recently.

QUOTE(Aegnor Alkarin @ Apr 29 2014, 04:46) *
Don't know why you guys are so down on maging at low levels. I've been maging since level 42 (!) And I'd say leave off maging till lv. 150 at least. But lv 300 is way too far.
Any mages below level 310 for all practical purpose is considered as an acolyte due to how hard it is to win at high difficulty with them anyways...

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post Apr 29 2014, 04:20
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just realized my inventory's getting full due to never bothering to go through it, is it safe to say that anything under Superior should just be NPC'ed?
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post Apr 29 2014, 04:24
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Apr 29 2014, 11:41) *

Because we can raise level as melee from 0 to 200 in 3~4 days, and from 0 to 300 in 3~4 weeks with hard grinding nowadays.
But I'm not sure if this rate can be done as mage...
And as treesloth said, there's Imperil cooldown issue, as well.

Of course, not everyone wants quick growth, though. Someone may seek slow and easygoing play, or just don't have enough time to grind.
My friend's record from 0 to 300 is 23 days. I supported him with full know-how and tips, and he made it! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I suppose he also grind PFest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) There's no way he can get that much exp from just arena (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 29 2014, 10:24) *
I suppose he also grind PFest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) There's no way he can get that much exp from just arena (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

IWed my phase cap again, this time I get 13 minutes, thanks to infusions. Now I need shitloads of infusions, preferably holy and dark ones. I have a few Featherweight Shards to trade for it.

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