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post Apr 27 2014, 21:00
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QUOTE(Caia @ Apr 28 2014, 02:23) *

Any kind of melee can benefit from Spirit Theft. As 1H heavy the occasional Spirit Theft off of Ragnarok has been very helpful to me (and then I just convert excess OC to mana so it's not like I'm wasting excessive mana on Ragnarok or anything).


So what happened if your Ragnarok/Drain is resisted or if Ripened Soul doesn't proc? Also keep in mind that buffs are costly for heavy, so any unnecessarily longer round will end up using up even more mana. In practice, with my 1H + force shield + power set up, using focus or drain always consume more pots than not using them

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post Apr 27 2014, 21:16
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 27 2014, 21:00) *

So what happened if your Ragnarok/Drain is resisted or if Ripened Soul doesn't proc? Also keep in mind that buffs are costly for heavy, so any unnecessarily longer round will end up using up even more mana. In practice, with my 1H + force shield + power set up, using focus or drain always consume more pots than not using them

I have to disagree, just finished Eternal Darkness@PF and only used 4 mana potions.
It takes forever to regen all the mana through focusing (was probably 90min or so in there) and i think i could've gotten away with using only 1 mana potion, but all the focussing got boring (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .
Still it's less than i use when rushing EoD@PF.

To be fair, i stuck to Disintegrate for the higher proc chance and i don't have access to Ragnarok yet (but i doubt it'll be any more effective in proc/mana ratio).

Drain resist is a non-issue since the drain-spirit portion is always applied, even when drain gets resisted.
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post Apr 27 2014, 22:06
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I remember reading somewhere something about permanent spirit stance, just wondering how is that possible?

Is there a way to stack overcharge while in SS?
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post Apr 27 2014, 22:12
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QUOTE(catdrag0n @ Apr 27 2014, 22:06) *

I remember reading somewhere something about permanent spirit stance, just wondering how is that possible?

Is there a way to stack overcharge while in SS?

only with 1H style: every successful 'counter-attack' hit adds something to your overcharge: wiki
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post Apr 27 2014, 22:23
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 28 2014, 04:12) *

only with 1H style: every successful 'counter-attack' hit adds something to your overcharge: wiki


That's one thing that made me feel like re-rolling to 1H heavy but seeing how people bid so much on 1h equipment I got turned away. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Apr 27 2014, 23:05
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Mikuru Beam is a spell that deals void type damage.

void type damage cannot be reduced (i.e. mitigated) because there is no armor that grants mitigation against void type damage.

however since Mikuru Beam is a spell so resist still works.


Thanks for the explanation, makes sense
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post Apr 27 2014, 23:12
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I've just started out, what build should one follow to focus on magic-using?

[puu.sh] http://puu.sh/8q5rU/69e2707b9a.png

Here's my stats, I don't think equip counts for much at this point.
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post Apr 27 2014, 23:20
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Hello experts, I've got a quick question: I've got my hands on a few items that I think could be worth selling on the WTS sub-forum, nothing extraordinary, mostly a couple of superior phase/shade equipments with a few exquisites.

Problem is, I have no idea how much I should sell them for. Looking around, there seem to be a lot of things that influence the worth of any given equipment and I'm not sure what makes a piece of equipment more valuable than another.

I've been thinking of setting the price of each item at about 5 times what I'd get if I sold it at the Bazaar. Would that be a good starting point? Too high? Too low?
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post Apr 28 2014, 00:43
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 27 2014, 04:09) *

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4129 only. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
Hope I can get to around ~5k by Lv. 300 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Well, you have many levels to play still before Lv300 and if you can improve upon your gear you might be able to do so. I was slightly below 5k at around Lv303 when I was equipped with this axe, even now if I switch it with with my current Primary Axe, I drop from 5536 (I added another Binding of Slaughter today) to 5286.

QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 27 2014, 06:42) *

Well, my stats is geared toward a mage setup, so I'm nowhere as strong as kos9494 in melee... but here it is.

STR 260 DEX 260
AGI 288 END 276
INT 286 WIS 286

Fighting Style
Dualwield (void / piercing)
82 % Offhand Strike on hit

Physical Attack
3080 attack base damage
129.3% hit chance
30% crit chance / +51 % damage
8.7% attack speed bonus

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97.8% HP Boost
75.2% MP Boost

Defense
56.8% physical mitigation
50.5% magical mitigation
37% evade chance
0% block chance
38.1% parry chance
51.9% resist chance

Compromise
37.1 interference
0 burden

Specific Mitigation
0.0% Fire 0.0% Cold
0.0% Elec 0.0% Wind
0.0% Holy 0.0% Dark
19.3% Crushing 21.1% Slashing
0.0% Piercing
0.0% Void

Equips are classified for now.

Whoa, just looking at the stats alone make me dawwed in awe. The damage in really high, but the estoc being able to overpower is really makes quite a difference.

You know, it's nighttime here at my home. As for my dinner, welp, nothing worth mentioning.
You know, I had once bidded for an even more meh-ethereal rapier of slaughter for nearly a million... I'd say it's just the hype and popularity more than anything, but bids for ethereal rapier of slaughter can get out of control really fast.

EDIT: Corrected the link.


Are you using a Slaughter Rapier for your offhand, it's the only thing I could think of for the 82% offhand strike. A Balance Rapier with 1/2 to 2/3 ADB and base 32+ accuracy will make your battles much more easier to manage than any Slaughter Rapier as your offhand.
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post Apr 28 2014, 01:07
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Apr 28 2014, 06:43) *

Well, you have many levels to play still before Lv300 and if you can improve upon your gear you might be able to do so. I was slightly below 5k at around Lv303 when I was equipped with this axe, even now if I switch it with with my current Primary Axe, I drop from 5536 (I added another Binding of Slaughter today) to 5286.


After upping 2 levels, my atk increased by 71.
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So I guess that's possible for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

That's one nice used axe you have there (too bad it's an exquisite) and your current Axe is fancy too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
Though, I won't use any elemental weapon if its burden is over 7 cuz that extra burden affects my performance a lot. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

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Are you using a Slaughter Rapier for your offhand, it's the only thing I could think of for the 82% offhand strike. A Balance Rapier with 1/2 to 2/3 ADB and base 32+ accuracy will make your battles much more easier to manage than any Slaughter Rapier as your offhand.


I supposed you're right, or if you're wrong, it must be because his DW prof. is still at 80-ish.
A Rapier Slaughter is much much much much more inferior than a Rapier Balance as an offhand mainly because having lower accuracy, thus lower offhand strike chance means having less PA proc. chance and less dps.
Well I guess that's generally known. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Apr 28 2014, 02:37
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 27 2014, 16:07) *

After upping 2 levels, my atk increased by 71.
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So I guess that's possible for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

That's one nice used axe you have there (too bad it's an exquisite) and your current Axe is fancy too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
Though, I won't use any elemental weapon if its burden is over 7 cuz that extra burden affects my performance a lot. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
I supposed you're right, or if you're wrong, it must be because his DW prof. is still at 80-ish.
A Rapier Slaughter is much much much much more inferior than a Rapier Balance as an offhand mainly because having lower accuracy, thus lower offhand strike chance means having less PA proc. chance and less dps.
Well I guess that's generally known. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Why, you won't touch an exquisite? I never gave it a second thought as they are just tools (my second max levelled axe).

If Burden of 7 is your limit of tolerance, you are severely limiting yourself on the choice of weapons. Any elemental axe is definitely out since their minimum burden is 14, most elemental rapiers will also be a no no, since their minimum burden is 6.3. I guess you will be using ethereal all the way which would be great if you can afford or let alone find them. I'll be using Featherweight shards to mitigate the burden somewhat - about time, since all I've been doing is selling them to generate income.
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post Apr 28 2014, 02:58
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ Apr 28 2014, 03:16) *
I have to disagree, just finished Eternal Darkness@PF and only used 4 mana potions.
It takes forever to regen all the mana through focusing (was probably 90min or so in there) and i think i could've gotten away with using only 1 mana potion, but all the focussing got boring (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .
Still it's less than i use when rushing EoD@PF.

To be fair, i stuck to Disintegrate for the higher proc chance and i don't have access to Ragnarok yet (but i doubt it'll be any more effective in proc/mana ratio).
I guess Spirit Theft helped you with SP then, To be fair the SG's are basically tanks in the last three arenas really.

QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 28 2014, 07:07) *
QUOTE(zen_zen @ Apr 28 2014, 06:43) *
Are you using a Slaughter Rapier for your offhand, it's the only thing I could think of for the 82% offhand strike. A Balance Rapier with 1/2 to 2/3 ADB and base 32+ accuracy will make your battles much more easier to manage than any Slaughter Rapier as your offhand.
I supposed you're right, or if you're wrong, it must be because his DW prof. is still at 80-ish.
Must've been the 80-ish prof that comes with part-timing DW style (and HV for that matter). Tried out all Light Armor abilities, none of them worked to increase the offhand chance. I've got this damned good rapier as well but the offhand chance is still at a measly 82% with it.

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post Apr 28 2014, 04:07
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I already have 22 ponies, how long does it take for OFC available in battle?
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post Apr 28 2014, 04:12
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Just wait, it takes a moment for the system to settle.

You might try buying a potion to force the caches, but am not sure if it will work for OFC
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post Apr 28 2014, 04:16
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QUOTE(blue penguin @ Apr 28 2014, 09:12) *

Just wait, it takes a moment for the system to settle.

You might try buying a potion to force the caches, but am not sure if it will work for OFC

I already wait for almost a day, guess i have to wait more.
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post Apr 28 2014, 04:26
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IWed my heimdall phase cap on DW setup (got pwned twice as holy mage... ugh...)
1,157 turns
22 m 11 s

13,765,121 EXP
1,154 credits

DW prof still at 80's... 84.66 to be exact

and a really high APM on Netcafe (the biggest advantage for melee imo), on my home shitnet I'm lucky to get 10 APM.
Pretty good, but on a Netcafe, this is waaaaay too slow of a clear time, I need to be at least half as fast as Blacksmith-kun (Danixxx) to break even.

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post Apr 28 2014, 04:30
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Do people use Illithid maces? Cuz I just got one and am wondering if it's worth anything

Exquisite Demonic Mace of the Illithid

Also got a phase surtur cap

Exquisite Phase Cap of Surtr

They worth anything?

I also happen to get surtur gear moreso than any other element

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post Apr 28 2014, 04:39
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QUOTE(darkx @ Apr 28 2014, 10:30) *
Do people use Illithid maces? Cuz I just got one and am wondering if it's worth anything

Exquisite Demonic Mace of the Illithid
Sounds good enough to me. but I'm not speaking for melee.

QUOTE(darkx @ Apr 28 2014, 10:30) *
Also got a phase surtur cap

Exquisite Phase Cap of Surtr

They worth anything?

I also happen to get surtr gear moreso than any other element
EX EDB, 3PAB, not the best there is, but very worth auctioning.

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post Apr 28 2014, 04:46
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QUOTE(darkx @ Apr 27 2014, 19:30) *

Do people use Illithid maces? Cuz I just got one and am wondering if it's worth anything

Exquisite Demonic Mace of the Illithid

Also got a phase surtur cap

Exquisite Phase Cap of Surtr

They worth anything?

I also happen to get surtur gear moreso than any other element


I use this Illithid Mace... but not as my primary style. Mainly just to do SGs on lower difficulties. Though I have been using it with my Shade set to improve my Light Armor proficiency.

It's sad that yours is better than mine in every aspect except Mana Drain, and mine being ethereal... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Apr 28 2014, 04:53
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