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post Apr 27 2014, 15:00
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 27 2014, 14:35) *

just got 21 a few days ago, because gave up on bidding holy demon's force shield.

lol, that feeling of having new funds available when you quite biddin' (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

btw, i quit when another user bid 800k on this rapier, was it worth even more?
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post Apr 27 2014, 15:09
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post Apr 27 2014, 15:12
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 27 2014, 17:00) *
lol, that feeling of having new funds available when you quite biddin' (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

btw, i quit when another user bid 800k on this rapier, was it worth even more?

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Penetrated Armor: 19% chance - 4 turns

Eww.
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post Apr 27 2014, 15:15
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Apr 27 2014, 15:12) *

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Penetrated Armor: 19% chance - 4 turns

Eww.

yep, i noted it and that was one of the reasons because i left it, my actual rapier(s) are much better from that point of view. but it's also ethereal, IW5, 4PABs, decent overall stats...

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post Apr 27 2014, 15:23
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 27 2014, 15:00) *

lol, that feeling of having new funds available when you quite biddin' (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

btw, i quit when another user bid 800k on this rapier, was it worth even more?


probably not, but it seems like most 1H power stuff are getting to a somewhat ridiculous expensive phase. saved up some credits for the pass 2 auctions to buy a MMax force shield & end up getting out bid to no tomorrow.

i still can't believe this 1PAB rapier is sold for 350k. or this rapier sold for 450k iirc, it both were lvl 0 during auction. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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post Apr 27 2014, 15:31
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 27 2014, 21:23) *
i still can't believe this 1PAB rapier is sold for 350k. or this rapier sold for 450k iirc, it both were lvl 0 during auction. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

Mine was level 9 so in a way I was also paying for IW service. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 27 2014, 15:42
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 27 2014, 19:09) *
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4129 only. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
Hope I can get to around ~5k by Lv. 300 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Well, my stats is geared toward a mage setup, so I'm nowhere as strong as kos9494 in melee... but here it is.

STR 260 DEX 260
AGI 288 END 276
INT 286 WIS 286

Fighting Style
Dualwield (void / piercing)
82 % Offhand Strike on hit

Physical Attack
3080 attack base damage
129.3% hit chance
30% crit chance / +51 % damage
8.7% attack speed bonus

Vitals
97.8% HP Boost
75.2% MP Boost

Defense
56.8% physical mitigation
50.5% magical mitigation
37% evade chance
0% block chance
38.1% parry chance
51.9% resist chance

Compromise
37.1 interference
0 burden

Specific Mitigation
0.0% Fire 0.0% Cold
0.0% Elec 0.0% Wind
0.0% Holy 0.0% Dark
19.3% Crushing 21.1% Slashing
0.0% Piercing
0.0% Void

Equips are classified for now.

QUOTE(dnbdave @ Apr 27 2014, 19:20) *
The Estoc dani's loaned me really owns, but I think it's a combo of being conflicted by habit and the damage/mitigation twofer DW with my power set affords me. I can just mow through mobs like butter and not spam cure but maybe 1/4 as much as 2H Estoc/Shade.
Whoa, just looking at the stats alone make me dawwed in awe. The damage in really high, but the estoc being able to overpower is really makes quite a difference.

QUOTE(dnbdave @ Apr 27 2014, 19:20) *
Yes, I know this is due to low prof in 2H and light armor. No, I dunno if I have the patience to play low level and up it to where it should be for buttery smooth play like with my primary set. Still waffling. Mmmm... waffles. Gonna go get me some since it's breakfast time here now.
You know, it's nighttime here at my home. As for my dinner, welp, nothing worth mentioning.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 27 2014, 21:00) *
lol, that feeling of having new funds available when you quite biddin' (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

btw, i quit when another user bid 800k on this rapier, was it worth even more?


QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 27 2014, 21:23) *
probably not, but it seems like most 1H power stuff are getting to a somewhat ridiculous expensive phase. saved up some credits for the pass 2 auctions to buy a MMax force shield & end up getting out bid to no tomorrow.

i still can't believe this 1PAB rapier is sold for 350k. or this rapier sold for 450k iirc, it both were lvl 0 during auction. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
You know, I had once bidded for an even more meh-ethereal rapier of slaughter for nearly a million... I'd say it's just the hype and popularity more than anything, but bids for ethereal rapier of slaughter can get out of control really fast.

EDIT: Corrected the link.

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post Apr 27 2014, 15:52
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QUOTE(Caia @ Apr 27 2014, 15:31) *

Mine was level 9 so in a way I was also paying for IW service. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

i was tempted to bid too, then i saw overpower 5 (i also wrote in this topic to ask if that was worthy) and forbid it... i hoped to have the one i posted at a reasonable price, but i think i still have to go with mine: straight rapier or hallowed rapier, for bonus Cure

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post Apr 27 2014, 15:59
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QUOTE(dnbdave @ Apr 27 2014, 13:20) *

EDIT: The Estoc dani's loaned me really owns, but I think it's a combo of being conflicted by habit and the damage/mitigation twofer DW with my power set affords me. I can just mow through mobs like butter and not spam cure but maybe 1/4 as much as 2H Estoc/Shade.

Yes, I know this is due to low prof in 2H and light armor. No, I dunno if I have the patience to play low level and up it to where it should be for buttery smooth play like with my primary set. Still waffling. Mmmm... waffles. Gonna go get me some since it's breakfast time here now.


Well a part of the problem comes from the unforged shade, 10-20 upgrades would do the trick in greatly increasing your survivability.
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post Apr 27 2014, 16:02
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 27 2014, 21:42) *

Well, my stats is geared toward a mage setup, so I'm nowhere as strong as kos9494 in melee... but here it is.

STR 260 DEX 260
AGI 288 END 276
INT 286 WIS 286

Fighting Style
Dualwield (void / piercing)
82 % Offhand Strike on hit

Physical Attack
3080 attack base damage
129.3% hit chance
30% crit chance / +51 % damage
8.7% attack speed bonus

Vitals
97.8% HP Boost
75.2% MP Boost

Defense
56.8% physical mitigation
50.5% magical mitigation
37% evade chance
0% block chance
38.1% parry chance
51.9% resist chance

Compromise
37.1 interference
0 burden

Specific Mitigation
0.0 %Fire 0.0 %Cold
0.0 %Elec 0.0 %Wind
0.0 %Holy 0.0 %Dark
19.3 %Crushing 21.1 %Slashing
0.0 %Piercing
0.0 %Void

Equips are classified for now.


Here are the stats I haven't mentioned yet:

278 on STR/AGI/DEX/END
237 on INT and 252 on WIS
Parry 43.1%
Resist 56.5%
Interference 41.3
HP boost 107.4%
MP boost 79.5%

What's your DW and Light armor prof.? It seems like they're both ridiculously low looking at the difference between our melee stats... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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You know, it's nighttime here at my home. As for my dinner, welp, nothing worth mentioning.
You know, I had once bidded for an even more meh-ethereal rapier of slaughter for nearly a million... I'd say it's just the hype and popularity more than anything, but bids for ethereal rapier of slaughter can get out of control really fast.

EDIT: Corrected the link.


Rapier of Balance, given high accuracy / parry could be expensive too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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post Apr 27 2014, 16:07
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Apr 27 2014, 21:59) *
Well a part of the problem comes from the unforged shade, 10-20 upgrades would do the trick in greatly increasing your survivability.
Speaking of which, how much Phazons do you need forge into the phase armaments to survive PFUDOR DwD in a mage setup?

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post Apr 27 2014, 16:12
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 27 2014, 11:23) *

10b had nerfed the estoc to death in the wake of PFUDOR, if you're still on melee then I would suggest either 1H or DW, but since I'm a mage I'm no expert in either of them...

Also, Divine and Forbidden proficiency took me weeks to grind, so I'm a weak little acolyte till... wait, the SP tank? Equiped that, and bam, the pwnage become the pwned, what with I pwned PFUDOR REs on a mage setup three times in a row.


well, i was alternating between 2h mace and 2h estoc for the stuns and penetrating procs... is it better to be a mage now ? O_o


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http://ehwiki.org/wiki/advice

stats are fine, keep em level, with int lagging (70%-80% of the others). Get some new gears. For shade you want to aim for exq+ and 4 pabs (primary attribute bonuses) pieces, and for heavy 3 pabs. Shadowdancer is still best shade suffix, but overall stats is more important.

Estoc will be difficult if you want to do PFUDOR at your level. Lack of anti-parry really hurts, and until your defense is high enough, you'll have to wear plate > power, or leather > shade, which slows things down too much compared to just using something else. It should be fine for IWBTH and down, but I've never managed to master IWBTH in my unforged shade.

If you weren't around for the big abilities patch make sure you take some time to figure it out (make sure you have the abilities actually equipped, not just points put into them).

use your chaos tokens, make some monsters, hope for some good bindings and materials. Use your blood tokens; gamble for a good drop, or just fight FSM and get the noodle and sell it for 60k+.

If you can find the time, try IWing your weapon at least (or paying for it). Also if your proficiencies are solid, you might as well start diversify a bit and start upping the other weapon/armor proficiencies. Practically all 300+ melees max multi-fighting styles cuz the styles are good/better for different things.


what new gears do u think i should go for ? i really like the shadowdancer suffix, thats why i went for them, but since my gears are only "superior" and "fine" tiers, i doubt they are of any use for my current level...

furthermore, i'm not sure of the market price for a decent set of equips at the moment... anyone care to share some findings with me ?

also, how long does it take to do itemworld and how much will it roughly cost for someone to level it for me ?
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post Apr 27 2014, 16:14
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 27 2014, 22:02) *
Here are the stats I haven't mentioned yet:

278 on STR/AGI/DEX/END
237 on INT and 252 on WIS
Parry 43.1%
Resist 56.5%
Interference 41.3
HP boost 107.4%
MP boost 79.5%

Mine's got 118.6% mana cost modifier
Health points 9861
Magic points 1046
Spirit points 724

QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 27 2014, 22:02) *
What's your DW and Light armor prof.? It seems like they're both ridiculously low looking at the difference between our melee stats... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Dual wielding 80.34
Light armor 174.02

Light armor is my second highest prof, after Supportive prof at 177.14, thanks to all the PFUDOR RE's I've gone through in DW setup. The lack of stat must've come from not spending enough Ability Points into DW and light armor prof aside from more DW damage, DW crit and HP/MP I think.

Also, both of your weapons are more powerful than mine, my offhand is an ethereal rapier of balance.

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post Apr 27 2014, 16:15
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 27 2014, 16:07) *

Speaking of which, how much Phazons do you need forge into the phase armaments to survive PFUDOR DwD in a mage setup?


Dunno it depends on your level, gear and perks but 10-20 phazons on each piece would give you the best return and should be enough.
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post Apr 27 2014, 16:18
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 27 2014, 16:14) *

Light armor is my second highest prof, after Supportive prof at 177.14, thanks to all the PFUDOR RE's I've gone through. The lack of stat must've come from not spending enough Ability Points into DW and light armor prof aside from more DW damage, DW crit and HP/MP I think.

just for show (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

One-handed 268.57
Two-handed 263.37
Dual wielding 238.42 (dismissed for now)
Light armor 263.99
Heavy armor 265.26

Deprecating 132.76 (almost unused)
Supportive 262.01

jokes apart, it seems to me that being at lv259 and having max prof at 177 is a bit... well, no offense intended but a bit low...

[edit] ethereal rapier of balance for offhand is good, you need to stack PA with the highest (offhand) chance possible afterall...

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post Apr 27 2014, 16:24
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 27 2014, 07:09) *

4129 only. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
Hope I can get to around ~5k by Lv. 300 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


i'm sitting at ~5100 atm so your damage should slightly more than that at my level considering your axe/rapier has about the same damage as my club/rapier.


also, since everyone's posting stats for one reason or another:
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 27 2014, 21:52) *
i was tempted to bid too, then i saw overpower 5 (i also wrote in this topic to ask if that was worthy) and forbid it... i hoped to have the one i posted at a reasonable price, but i think i still have to go with mine: straight rapier or hallowed rapier, for bonus Cure

I just wanted to replace my main rapier which has no STR PAB... I probably wouldn't have bid as much for it had it not been level 9 though. Eventually I'll have to replace it of course, but right now I have some pieces of Power Slaughter I need to swap out for better ones.
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post Apr 27 2014, 16:34
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 27 2014, 22:18) *
just for show (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

One-handed 268.57
Two-handed 263.37
Dual wielding 238.42 (dismissed for now)
Light armor 263.99
Heavy armor 265.26

Deprecating 132.76 (almost unused)
Supportive 262.01

jokes apart, it seems to me that being at lv259 and having max prof at 177 is a bit... well, no offense intended but a bit low...
So much for being no offense. I dunno if it's just melee user have easier time to grind profs or whatnot, but the landmine here is that I'm grinding Divine and Forbidden proficiency RIGHT NOW and didn't made much progress so far (due to shitty Net connection), so don't give me that just because I couldn't grind hard enough to get 200 prof within a week...

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 27 2014, 22:18) *
ethereal rapier of balance for offhand is good, you need to stack PA with the highest (offhand) chance possible afterall...
I think it's probably the accuracy ability that's needs investing, maybe I'll try it out later...

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QUOTE(jimmy123 @ Apr 27 2014, 16:12) *

well, i was alternating between 2h mace and 2h estoc for the stuns and penetrating procs... is it better to be a mage now ? O_o


mages are always a bit OP. then probably 1H. though 2H+shade is pretty safe.

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what new gears do u think i should go for ? i really like the shadowdancer suffix, thats why i went for them, but since my gears are only "superior" and "fine" tiers, i doubt they are of any use for my current level...

furthermore, i'm not sure of the market price for a decent set of equips at the moment... anyone care to share some findings with me ?


though, Exq or Mag (non-shadowdancer) might have better stats than the items you currently have. you can get a general idea from viewing pass auction prices here & here.

there's still 20mins left in THIS AUCTION

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also, how long does it take to do itemworld and how much will it roughly cost for someone to level it for me ?


really depends your gear & the item you want to IW. generally, 20-25c/pxp.
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 27 2014, 16:34) *

So much for being no offense. I dunno if it's just melee user have easier time to grind profs or not, but the landmine here is that I'm grinding Divine and Forbidden proficiency RIGHT NOW and didn't made much progress so far, so don't give me that just because I couldn't grind hard enough to get 200 prof within a week...

mmm... wait, are you a mage?
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