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Agreed. though, 2H Mace+shade is also another safe way to do most arenas on IWBTH. though, it's slow. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Yeah, when I first unlocked and tried out the first arena in Nightmare (not switched to DW style that time yet) I had to spam Imperil like no tomorrow. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Estoc's still a better choice for SGs.

Well, TenB actually just said you potency with higher lvl will have a 50% chance to raise in level. It's more on luck.

I think the wiki is outdated on 2% and scaling:
Proof: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=81f218f763

you could see the base is 5.

My interpretation of what he said is that lv4 potency and lv1 potency will have the exact same chance to get one the next item level. And if your items have more than 2 potencies, you will actually have higher chance to get another potency rather than the one you want. So if you have, say, butcher lv4, fatality lv1 and swift strike lv1 , you have 50/3= 16.7% of getting butcher, but a whooping 50% to get overpower.

Basically best strategy is to reforge if you don't get lv4 at item lv4 or lv5 at item lv6 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Basically best strategy is to reforge if you don't get lv4 at item lv4 or lv5 at item lv6 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

i should've reforged almost every item i IWed until now then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

i should've reforged almost every item i IWed until now then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

reforging cost is high though. You need to expect to spend 50-100 amnesia shard to get lv5 of something you want (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

lv3 at lv3 is much more affordable, like one fourth of that :/

My interpretation of what he said is that lv4 potency and lv1 potency will have the exact same chance to get one the next item level. And if your items have more than 2 potencies, you will actually have higher chance to get another potency rather than the one you want. So if you have, say, butcher lv4, fatality lv1 and swift strike lv1 , you have 50/3= 16.7% of getting butcher, but a whooping 50% to get overpower.

So if have it the other way around, say, Archmage Lv4 on a staff, I would have 50% chance of getting Archmage Lv5 while having 50/4 = 12.5% chance of getting Annihilator, Economizer, Penetration and Spellweaver each, right?

Basically best strategy is to reforge if you don't get lv4 at item lv4 or lv5 at item lv6 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

reforging cost is high though. You need to expect to spend 50-100 amnesia shard to get lv5 of something you want (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I wish I could do IW right now, though I'll need to up my evade stats first... (now at measly 33.2%)
Guess I'll try asking danixxx about that... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/lurk.gif)

DW with the armor in my sig. i used my waki(didn't have rapier back then) and my old shocking club. the game was also alot easier back then since it was before gc's dark mage mobs started popping up in every round.

for the most part, DW shade and 1H power are pretty equal with the exception of grindfest where 1H has the edge

some other 1H users can chime in, but im pretty sure they'll agree that 250 is the point where you should be able to do most arenas on IWBTH.

1H and DW are equal? Really? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
I tot 1H is more OP considering most >300 players (other than you)are either 1H/Mage...

3rd time's the charm. finally, successful finished "End of Days" @PF & got Exquisite Phase Robe of Fenrir dropped. is any it good or just bazaar material?

also, thanks for all the tips & advise from Simrock87 here & many others in this thread.

imo, once you realize the "pacing", how to use your Overcharge & the "crowd" is the issue instead of the SGs. it's not that bad & i end up with 3 heroic mana potions left.

lastly some info for those who are interested:
-rapier with Void+Holy+Dark makes things a lot easier
-13 heroic mana & 2 spirit. (with 3 mana left)
-total: 1hr7mins
-17,437 credits & 162.5 mil exp gain total.
-6 equip drops, 5 superior bazaar material, & 1 Exqusite
-IA slots Haste/Spirit Shield. Protection/Regen/Heartseaker always on. didn't use SoL, but probably should.



This post has been edited by malkatmp: Apr 24 2014, 16:13

what is a good strategy to clear PFUDOR RE as holy mage? now I just spam all debuffs I have then fastly kill em (with heals, sparks, spirit pots), I use weaken and silence, sleep, (slow might be good, right?, but I'd need ability points to upgrade it fully)

This post has been edited by Owyn: Apr 24 2014, 16:15

3rd time's the charm. finally, successful finished "End of Days" @PF & got Exquisite Phase Robe of Fenrir dropped. is any it good or just bazaar material?

good! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

btw, yesterday i earned this from PF arena, got the same question: is it any good? is it worth the effort of IWing it a bit?

Tried to do flying spaghetti monster used all my pots and nearly died. hahaha.

is any it good or just bazaar material?

35-50k, imo.

what is a good strategy to clear PFUDOR RE as holy mage?

Weak, silence, arcane/regen + Health & Mana pots, imperil, spam offensive spells. Though it's difficult enough for an "ordinary" players. I mean PF-maging.

@Scremaz
Spell damage is too low, imo.

This post has been edited by Laboq: Apr 24 2014, 16:40

3rd time's the charm. finally, successful finished "End of Days" @PF & got Exquisite Phase Robe of Fenrir dropped. is any it good or just bazaar material?

I'll give you 1K Crystals for each primary attribute for it (total = 6000 crystals). By all means sell it to me please.
Sending my crystals with CoD now. you can CoD me back the robe to me.

3rd time's the charm. finally, imo, once you realize the "pacing", how to use your Overcharge & the "crowd" is the issue instead of the SGs. it's not that bad & i end up with 3 heroic mana potions left.

lastly some info for those who are interested:
-rapier with Void+Holy+Dark makes things a lot easier
-13 heroic mana & 2 spirit. (with 3 mana left)
-total: 1hr7mins
-17,437 credits & 162.5 mil exp gain total.
-6 equip drops, 5 superior bazaar material, & 1 Exqusite
-IA slots Haste/Spirit Shield. Protection/Regen/Heartseaker always on. didn't use SoL, but probably should.

That's a short yet a long time. I'll try to break your arena clear record with holy/dark mage build after I've obtained the "Mark of the Magi". (read:good enough to run IW shop)
Now I just need to learn to use SpellSpam script...

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Apr 24 2014, 16:48

35-50k, imo.

thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'll give you 1K Crystals for each primary attribute for it (total = 6000 crystals). By all means sell it to me please.

That's a short yet a long time. I'll try to break your arena clear record with holy/dark mage build after I've obtained the "Mark of the Magi". (read:good enough to run IW shop)
Now I just need to learn to use SpellSpam script...

thanks for your offer, but i'm leaning towards sending it to auctions & see if it sticks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

imo, it too me way too long (in terms of lvl) to do End of Days @PF. low holy/dary mitigation is bad. also, my Emax shield is also bad. i'll probably need so IW some more mitigation later on, but somehow i'm keep getting fire ones. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
thanks for your offer, but i'm leaning towards sending it to auctions & see if it sticks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

imo, it too me way too long (in terms of lvl) to do End of Days @PF. low holy/dary mitigation is bad. also, my Emax shield is also bad. i'll probably need so IW some more mitigation later on, but somehow i'm keep getting fire ones. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I've only been able to do it on normal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

3rd time's the charm. finally, successful finished "End of Days" @PF & got Exquisite Phase Robe of Fenrir dropped. is any it good or just bazaar material?

also, thanks for all the tips & advise from Simrock87 here & many others in this thread.

imo, once you realize the "pacing", how to use your Overcharge & the "crowd" is the issue instead of the SGs. it's not that bad & i end up with 3 heroic mana potions left.

lastly some info for those who are interested:
-rapier with Void+Holy+Dark makes things a lot easier
-13 heroic mana & 2 spirit. (with 3 mana left)
-total: 1hr7mins
-17,437 credits & 162.5 mil exp gain total.
-6 equip drops, 5 superior bazaar material, & 1 Exqusite
-IA slots Haste/Spirit Shield. Protection/Regen/Heartseaker always on. didn't use SoL, but probably should.

Not even Veil used?
Such badass... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

what is a good strategy to clear PFUDOR RE as holy mage? now I just spam all debuffs I have then fastly kill em (with heals, sparks, spirit pots), I use weaken and silence, sleep, (slow might be good, right?, but I'd need ability points to upgrade it fully)

I choose to rely on only SP shield, spark and imperil. You can add weaken into the mix, or you can just intentionally let spark activate, use a cure, then spam your strongest spells.

I've only been able to do it on normal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

imo, hving a decent enough Hallowed/Demonic rapier of slaughter +maxed to get Void strike is the key to clearing SG. you've to use holy/dark infusions & maybe a few featherweight shards to get slightly more crits%, but i think you can clear it @lvl310.

Not even Veil used?
Such badass... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

for 1H+heavy, you generally don't rely on evades. mostly parry/block. also, veil is actually quite costly with all these heavy armor. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

imo, hving a decent enough Hallowed/Demonic rapier of slaughter +maxed to get Void strike is the key to clearing SG. you've to use holy/dark infusions & maybe a few featherweight shards to get slightly more crits%, but i think you can clear it @lvl310.
for 1H+heavy, you generally don't rely on evades. mostly parry/block. also, veil is actually quite costly with all these heavy armor. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I play as a mage, so rapier won't work for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

1H and DW are equal? Really? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
I tot 1H is more OP considering most >300 players (other than you)are either 1H/Mage...

some may disagree but i say they're about the same with enough forging. i can't speak from experience but 1H probably goes better with OFC, which is another thing alot of >300 players except me have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

mage>>>>melee though. since day 1.


@malkatmp congrats. also, thanks for reminding me that i never bothered trying to do a PFUDOR schoolgirl arena(closest i came was BT DwD). guess i know what i'm casually strolling through this weekend

This post has been edited by something: Apr 24 2014, 18:28

some disagree but i say they're about the same with enough forging. i can't speak from experience but 1H probably goes better with OFC, which is another thing alot of >300 players except me have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

mage>>>>melee though. since day 1.

I'm not sure if OFC is really worth getting since I'd think I could do better with just Stance + whacking. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
So far the only <300 who has OFC I know is LostLogia4. (Heck he might already have it since <200) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


So, I have a question again.
Does reforging using Amnesia shard remove all the upgrades (those you do using Bindings)?
It wasn't mentioned in wiki (it only says removing potency) so I'm not sure. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)