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post Apr 24 2014, 01:30
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Apr 24 2014, 00:53) *

Okay, My Force Shield.

A Force Shield in action with a current bid of 1.2m.

A Force Shield for sale for 400k.

I'm lucky if I have 200k...

Should I really keep saving up? The only notable improvements I see are +End (and a very, very slight +Block improvement).

i own this, my block chance is as high as yours (both Emax, btw) and i really don't feel like to change it anytime soon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
you can say that it's more of a status symbol to be able to say 'my shield has MMax block' rather than a real need. imo your shield is okay, it has good rolls, the only thing you really lack compared to other two is all those END points: if it isn't a priority for you keep yours, go on IWing it and save money (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 24 2014, 03:12
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QUOTE(mcz @ Apr 24 2014, 05:47) *
Thanks I'll keep that in mind if I ever get there, what is this list you mentioned?
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QUOTE(darkx @ Apr 24 2014, 05:58) *
I've been wondering, are there any upgrades and such after level 500??
Ability Boost + Manifest Destiny, and forging. They costs an insane amount of Credits though...

Also, good luck getting to Level 500. Danixxx is the only one around who had reached LV500 afaik... and it takes about a few hundred trillons of EXP to reach that level.

QUOTE(Owyn @ Apr 24 2014, 05:49) *
will higher divine proff get me anything? like cheaper smite or smth?
raising divine prof to 100 earns you Banish, at 200 you earn Paradise Lost.

That too, I have a few questions regarding Coalesced Mana...
1. Does Coalesced Mana reduces MP cost if it wasn't my main target but is wihin my spell range?
2. Does the Coealeasced Mana and Ether Tap stacks? If so, how many times?
3. Does the Coalesced Mana effect stacks when it hit multiple targets?
4. Does the MP cost halving from Coalesced Mana and Spirit Stance affects proficiency gain rate?

And lastly... is the Cloth Armor abilities worth investing at all for a mage...? I've got 124 Cloth Armor prof and all of them only gave marginal stat boost while occupying my ability slots...

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post Apr 24 2014, 03:32
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 23 2014, 18:12) *
That too, I have a few questions regarding Coalesced Mana...
1. Does Coalesced Mana reduces MP cost if it wasn't my main target but is wihin my spell range?
2. Does the Coealeasced Mana and Ether Tap stacks? If so, how many times?
3. Does the Coalesced Mana effect stacks when it hit multiple targets?
4. Does the MP cost halving from Coalesced Mana and Spirit Stance affects proficiency gain rate?

And lastly... is the Cloth Armor abilities worth investing at all for a mage...? I've got 124 Cloth Armor prof and all of them only gave marginal stat boost while occupying my ability slots...


1) No, it has to be the main target.
2) Coalesced Mana does not stack. Ether Tap can stack once to double the MP returned per tick.
3) No.
4) I want to say "yes", but I'll admit that I'm not sure. It's completely irrelevant in practice though.

And shit, yes, Cloth abilities are worth it. If you are short on slots and AP, and if your Cloth proficiency is low, then you can try leaving them out for now, but definitely invest in them in the future.

You can ignore Staff Damage if you like, though.
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post Apr 24 2014, 03:38
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Apr 23 2014, 15:53) *

Okay, My Force Shield.

A Force Shield in action with a current bid of 1.2m.

A Force Shield for sale for 400k.

I'm lucky if I have 200k...

Should I really keep saving up? The only notable improvements I see are +End (and a very, very slight +Block improvement).


Pity your shield is only 2 PAB, the other two will add 450+ points to the HP tank, quite a significant amount for just about anyone. There is a hefty price increase going from an Exquisite to Magnificent, but you can perhaps pick up an ExMax, 3 PAB Force Shield for under 100k, forge it for 5, 6 levels of Block Chance upgrade at a cost of about 30k per level should raise your Block chance to MMax level or higher. A slightly cheaper alternative to the two Mag Shields you'd presented.
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post Apr 24 2014, 04:21
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Apr 23 2014, 18:53) *

Okay, My Force Shield.

A Force Shield in action with a current bid of 1.2m.

A Force Shield for sale for 400k.

I'm lucky if I have 200k...

Should I really keep saving up? The only notable improvements I see are +End (and a very, very slight +Block improvement).


assuming you're 1H power, holy demon's shield is probably your best bet if you want an upgrade. the block chance isn't much better than yours but it has almost double the MMI, which is great for 1H power players. END is nice too, but not a big deal IMO. at least try to find a warding shield with stats close to yours.

if you don't really care about MMI then ignore this post and be happy with your shield

@scremaz i considered that rapier to be a failure because i couldn't clear PFUDOR T&T with it faster than with my waki.

@LOL i might actually consider loaning it out to people that want to give it a shot

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post Apr 24 2014, 04:36
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Apr 23 2014, 18:38) *

Pity your shield is only 2 PAB, the other two will add 450+ points to the HP tank, quite a significant amount for just about anyone. There is a hefty price increase going from an Exquisite to Magnificent, but you can perhaps pick up an ExMax, 3 PAB Force Shield for under 100k, forge it for 5, 6 levels of Block Chance upgrade at a cost of about 30k per level should raise your Block chance to MMax level or higher. A slightly cheaper alternative to the two Mag Shields you'd presented.


Well, if I could find a ExMax Force Shield with similar block to mine... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Apr 24 2014, 05:37
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Just an update on my stats and training would like to know If I have anything to improve:

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And what kind of style should I used at 250?
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post Apr 24 2014, 06:29
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QUOTE(Mikey_Mike @ Apr 23 2014, 23:37) *

Just an update on my stats and training would like to know If I have anything to improve:

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And what kind of style should I used at 250?


-get your DEX and END up to where your STR is for more parry/crit and PMI/MMI/health
-your trainings seem fine but don't put anymore training into scavenger(for now anyway) or assimilator(never ever again)
-use whatever style you feel like using that works. try to get it to work on PFUDOR

-try to find some pieces with less burden if you can. 92 burden seems a bit much but i could be wrong.

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post Apr 24 2014, 06:42
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QUOTE(something @ Apr 24 2014, 06:29) *

-get your DEX and END up to where your STR is for more parry/crit and PMI/MMI/health
-your trainings seem fine but don't put anymore training into scavenger(for now anyway) or assimilator(never ever again)
-use whatever style you feel like using that works. try to get it to work on PFUDOR

-try to find some pieces with less burden if you can. 92 burden seems a bit much but i could be wrong.


Using one handed with shield atm and can get through nightmare on all the arenas I can do right now pretty easily with regen but what to try to use a higher difficulty.

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post Apr 24 2014, 07:01
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QUOTE(Mikey_Mike @ Apr 24 2014, 00:42) *

Using one handed with shield atm and can get through nightmare on all the arenas I can do right now pretty easily with regen but what to try to use a higher difficulty.


try to clear each one on a higher difficulty than the last. at around 250 you should be able to do most of them at IWBTH without too much trouble(at least i was able to anyway)
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post Apr 24 2014, 07:01
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check em

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post Apr 24 2014, 07:14
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QUOTE(something @ Apr 24 2014, 07:01) *

try to clear each one on a higher difficulty than the last. at around 250 you should be able to do most of them at IWBTH without too much trouble(at least i was able to anyway)


Was It with one handed with shield? With what kind of armor?
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post Apr 24 2014, 07:57
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QUOTE(NMRUI @ Apr 23 2014, 20:26) *



Exquisite Rapier of Slaughter


Magnificent Agile Kite Shield of Warding
malkatmp: Something along these lines?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3c3f49dc10

EDIT: Oh, and also, is Evade really THAT important that reducing the penalty incurred by the shield from ~12 to 3.5 is enough to justify a major increase in Interference (12 -> 30)? 12->30 will mean ~10% increased spell cost, right? Crit isn't very important since I self-cast almost always but spell cost seems important?
I found these two Rapiers that are even possibly in my price range, but they don't seem to be any major upgrade to me, or am I wrong? :S

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f6f9043f06

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bda3caaa6a

Otherwise I seem to be confined to either (Mag/Leg) Balance/Nimble etc OR items a bit out of price range (found a single one that was even close, at 1.8m)
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e184b51813

Sorry to bombard you guys like this but I now feel thoroughly insecure about all this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


imo, while this rapier is decent for now, but imo, it's missing 2 things. 1. Strength Stat (hence more damage) & 2. some elemental strike. if you're not doing SG runs @BT+, holy/dark is not necessary. so fire/cold/storm/elec strike is good enough. the parry is less important for 1H+shade due to evade, but the parry% can also be better.

holy dememon's MMax sheild, this shield is great, i've bid on it, but it seems like i never have deep enough pockets as Caia. currently, i'm still wondering how bad i want the shield. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

though, feel free to jump in if you want it too.

lastly, those 2 rapiers are good, but i don't know how much they're asking for them. the etheareal one is decent, but low parry chance. generally, you just hv to balance Damage & safety. for 1H+shade, you generally feel pretty safe with 30+%evade/block/parry & somewhat high resist. if you feel safe enough, turn up the difficulty a bit, then a bit more & more.

ps. you can also look into shortswords of slaughter too.
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post Apr 24 2014, 08:00
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A few question about the Item World:
1. What's the formula for minimizing the Amnesia Shard usage while IWing for a level 5 potency?
2. How much damage mitigation/stat bonus do each potency give per level for IWing armor?
3. How much Mana cost reduction does Economizer gives per level?
4. How much magic damage bonus does Archmage gives per level?
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post Apr 24 2014, 08:08
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 24 2014, 14:00) *

A few question about the Item World:
1. What's the formula for minimizing the Amnesia Shard usage while IWing for a level 5 potency?
2. How much damage mitigation/stat bonus do each potency give per level for IWing armor?
3. How much Mana cost reduction does Economizer gives per level?
4. How much magic damage bonus does Archmage gives per level?


1)
Advice someone gave me:

lv.1 - stat you want if not reforge
lv.2 - stat you want if not reforge
lv.3 - any stat
lv.4 - stat you want if not reforge
lv.5 - any stat
lv.6 - stat you want if not reforge
lv.7-10 - hope for the stat you want

Basically always make sure that the lvl. of the stat you want is higher than other potency.

2) Potency that can be gained per level of IW: +4% specific miti on an element, +2% hp or +2% mp
3) 5% per level for a total of 25% on lvl.5
4) Don't know lol, not a mage.
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post Apr 24 2014, 08:15
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 24 2014, 08:00) *

A few question about the Item World:
1. What's the formula for minimizing the Amnesia Shard usage while IWing for a level 5 potency?
2. How much damage mitigation/stat bonus do each potency give per level for IWing armor?
3. How much Mana cost reduction does Economizer gives per level?
4. How much magic damage bonus does Archmage gives per level?


1. 10B said it's 6.25% to get lv5 potency. so in other words, you'll need on average 1/(6.25%*#possible potency^-1) = # of Amnesia Shards. so a staff will probably need 1/(6.25%*5^-1) = ~80 shards. don't really know how accurate this is. please let me know if i'm way off. thanks.
2. 4% elemental mitigation per lvl.
3. iirc, 2% for all non-elemental mitigation & overpower.
4. 2%.

ps. wiki - http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Item_World

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post Apr 24 2014, 08:25
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QUOTE(Mikey_Mike @ Apr 24 2014, 01:14) *

Was It with one handed with shield? With what kind of armor?


DW with the armor in my sig. i used my waki(didn't have rapier back then) and my old shocking club. the game was also alot easier back then since it was before gc's dark mage mobs started popping up in every round.

for the most part, DW shade and 1H power are pretty equal with the exception of grindfest where 1H has the edge

some other 1H users can chime in, but im pretty sure they'll agree that 250 is the point where you should be able to do most arenas on IWBTH.

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post Apr 24 2014, 08:32
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 24 2014, 14:15) *

1. 10B said it's 6.25% to get lv5 potency. so in other words, you'll need on average 1/(6.25%*#possible potency^-1) = # of Amnesia Shards. so a staff will probably need 1/(6.25%*5^-1) = ~80 shards. don't really know how accurate this is. please let me know if i'm way off. thanks.
2. 4% elemental mitigation per lvl.
3. iirc, 2% for all non-elemental mitigation & overpower.
4. 2%.

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Well, TenB actually just said you potency with higher lvl will have a 50% chance to raise in level. It's more on luck.

I think the wiki is outdated on 2% and scaling:
Proof: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=81f218f763

you could see the base is 5.

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post Apr 24 2014, 09:38
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Apr 24 2014, 14:32) *

Well, TenB actually just said you potency with higher lvl will have a 50% chance to raise in level. It's more on luck.

I think the wiki is outdated on 2% and scaling:
Proof: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=81f218f763

you could see the base is 5.


Added economizer.
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post Apr 24 2014, 09:45
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QUOTE(something @ Apr 24 2014, 08:25) *

DW with the armor in my sig. i used my waki(didn't have rapier back then) and my old shocking club. the game was also alot easier back then since it was before gc's dark mage mobs started popping up in every round.

for the most part, DW shade and 1H power are pretty equal with the exception of grindfest where 1H has the edge

some other 1H users can chime in, but im pretty sure they'll agree that 250 is the point where you should be able to do most arenas on IWBTH.


Agreed. though, 2H Mace+shade is also another safe way to do most arenas on IWBTH. though, it's slow. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Apr 24 2014, 08:32) *

Well, TenB actually just said you potency with higher lvl will have a 50% chance to raise in level. It's more on luck.

I think the wiki is outdated on 2% and scaling:
Proof: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=81f218f763

you could see the base is 5.


didn't know that. thanks for the correction. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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