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post Apr 23 2014, 18:19
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QUOTE(Ashi17 @ Apr 24 2014, 00:05) *

Any tips on increasing my magical damage and survival chances on higher difficulty

Please tell me if the staff is good or not its from freeshop and I took it due to its mana conservation and diff spell damage and 3 prof but it didnt decrease the cost that much and was thinking on returning it back...So plz give a advice on what a good staff should have or not....
The staff link http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e68a35f5ad
Your staff have a pretty bad Wind EDB, assuming that's your primary element.
Also, if you're using Phase armaments, insist on sticking to only one element (=all Phase equips of Freyr). spreading EDBs on several elements won't help.

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post Apr 23 2014, 18:20
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 24 2014, 00:15) *

*test-equipping other staffs-pls wait*
Uh, version number says 2.0.3.1
More importantly, what's your Magic score script thingy's version number, did the version you're using work with equipment tooltips?


Should be the same if you get that from wiki. And I've no problem with it. As treesloth16 said, check if you've equipped the staff.

QUOTE(darkx @ Apr 24 2014, 00:16) *

Stop training your Strength and Dexterity, as a mage they have no use. I stopped training my Strength and Dexterity at 41


It's still good for more SP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 23 2014, 18:38
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Is it actually worth the effort to collect 21 pony figurines for the Orbital Friendship Cannon skill? Not to mention the Manehattan Project hath perk as I won't be making anywhere near enough of hath to unlock that in the foreseeable future. (lol I always thought Manehattan was misspelled but it turns out it's a place in the MLP universe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))

Right now I only have 2, used to have a couple more but being an ignorant fool I sold some to the bazaar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Apr 23 2014, 18:44
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 24 2014, 00:20) *
Should be the same if you get that from wiki. And I've no problem with it. As treesloth16 said, check if you've equipped the staff.
Why, of course I did, unless if my constant switch between my DW and holy mage setup would mess up anything.
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I never managed to get the tooltip to work at all... on second thought. IT'S THE FONT! It goes haywire on Hentaiverse's default font... what luck...
Will change to custom font anytime I wanna compare equips now... but which kinda custom font would you recommend...?

QUOTE(mcz @ Apr 24 2014, 00:38) *
Is it actually worth the effort to collect 21 pony figurines for the Orbital Friendship Cannon skill? Not to mention the Manehattan Project hath perk as I won't be making anywhere near enough of hath to unlock that in the foreseeable future. (lol I always thought Manehattan was misspelled but it turns out it's a place in the MLP universe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))

Right now I only have 2, used to have a couple more but being an ignorant fool I sold some to the bazaar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
Well, I'll sell you your would-be 21st Pony (if nobody else will) if you're in the Santa Pony's list. Anyway, OFC is quite a powerful AoE skill that would prove invaluable for melee users, especially for 1H style. Manehattan Project perk is entirely optional.

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post Apr 23 2014, 18:48
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Apr 23 2014, 21:39) *

Your setup looks Schizophrenic..... What element are you playing? Pick one (fire, cold, wind, electric) and get phase gear for that element. And get a staff of prefixed and suffixed element or of destruction. For example, Magnificent 'Tempestuous' Redwood Staff of 'Freyr' or MAgnificent 'Tempestuous' Redwood Staff of 'Destruction'

Once you have picked out an element, find phase gear of that type. You can go to my store and pick out free exquisite ones.


QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 23 2014, 21:49) *

Your staff have a pretty bad Wind EDB, assuming that's your primary element.
Also, if you're using Phase armaments, insist on sticking to only one element (=all Phase equips of Freyr). spreading EDBs on several elements won't help.

So you guys are saying I should pick up a single element and use all the equips with that element.Ok..Thanks
QUOTE(darkx @ Apr 23 2014, 21:46) *

Stop training your Strength and Dexterity, as a mage they have no use. I stopped training my Strength and Dexterity at 41

Well I wanted to keep a balanced state so I can go back to melee as I am maging cos I want to grind my deprecating proficiency.
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post Apr 23 2014, 19:04
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QUOTE(Ashi17 @ Apr 24 2014, 00:48) *
Well I wanted to keep a balanced state so I can go back to melee as I am maging cos I want to grind my deprecating proficiency.
Why, you can free up to 10 stat levels a day. As for depreciating proficiency, grind it to at least 30 now. as high a Faster Weaken skills available to you. Spam these spells (slot several of your depreciating spells with lowest CD and spam away) on the grindfest for a few hours should do the trick.

Speaking of melee, I've pretty much melee'd all the way from level 200 to level 250, all on PFUDOR RE. Trying the same with a holy mage setup would get me pwned anytime I've met more than 5 of these at once...

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post Apr 23 2014, 19:09
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 23 2014, 19:04) *

Why, you can free up to 10 stat levels a day. As for depreciating proficiency, grind it to at least 30 now. as high a Faster Weaken skills available to you. Spam these spells (slot several of your depreciating spells with lowest CD and spam away) on the grindfest for a few hours should do the trick.

he's on the way, let's say 40, so he will earn also Silence (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 23 2014, 19:13
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 24 2014, 01:09) *

he's on the way, let's say 40, so he will earn also Silence (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Melee players don't often spam deprecating buffs except silence they say. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
But I spam sleep, slow, confuse too these days. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

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post Apr 23 2014, 19:14
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 24 2014, 00:44) *

Will change to custom font anytime I wanna compare equips now... but which kinda custom font would you recommend...?


I'm using verdana. Also, just use the custom font because
1. it's faster
2. many scripts won't support original font


QUOTE(Ashi17 @ Apr 24 2014, 00:48) *

Well I wanted to keep a balanced state so I can go back to melee as I am maging cos I want to grind my deprecating proficiency.


You don't need to be a melee to grind deprecating prof. Just pick a staff and some heavy armor, go into any crude IW on normal difficulty, then start spamming.
Just get to 40 deprecating prof for silence, then stop grinding and focus on leveling. The next (useful) deprecating spell which has a prof requirement is magnet, which you won't need till later (lv.300+ against dragons). And you'll be using imperil so often, you don't even need to grind the prof.

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post Apr 23 2014, 19:34
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 23 2014, 19:13) *

Melee players don't often spam deprecating buffs except silence they say. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
But I spam sleep, slow, confuse too these days. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

lol, i spam almost only buffs these days, rarely silence if i have too many 'in memory of' or too much channelling (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 23 2014, 19:34
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QUOTE(mcz @ Apr 23 2014, 18:38) *

Is it actually worth the effort to collect 21 pony figurines for the Orbital Friendship Cannon skill? Not to mention the Manehattan Project hath perk as I won't be making anywhere near enough of hath to unlock that in the foreseeable future. (lol I always thought Manehattan was misspelled but it turns out it's a place in the MLP universe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))

Right now I only have 2, used to have a couple more but being an ignorant fool I sold some to the bazaar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


it depends.

1h+heavy. it's a great addition that stays with you. also, speed up your clear time for 10-20%.
other melee. okay addition. though, without counters from 1H, your overcharge build up is slower. hence, not using OFC as much, because it cost 200 overcharge.
for mages, it's a nice collectibles.

QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 23 2014, 19:13) *

Melee players don't often spam deprecating buffs except silence they say. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
But I spam sleep, slow, confuse too these days. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)


imo, weaken is another decent spell to spam. Low cost, at max faster weaken upgraded, it hits 3targets with 0 cooldowns. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Base Physical and Magical damage reduction: 25%


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post Apr 23 2014, 19:38
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 23 2014, 22:44) *

You don't need to be a melee to grind deprecating prof. Just pick a staff and some heavy armor, go into any crude IW on normal difficulty, then start spamming.
Just get to 40 deprecating prof for silence, then stop grinding and focus on leveling. The next (useful) deprecating spell which has a prof requirement is magnet, which you won't need till later (lv.300+ against dragons). And you'll be using imperil so often, you don't even need to grind the prof.

Thanks for the info.
QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 23 2014, 22:34) *

Why, you can free up to 10 stat levels a day. As for depreciating proficiency, grind it to at least 30 now. as high a Faster Weaken skills available to you. Spam these spells (slot several of your depreciating spells with lowest CD and spam away) on the grindfest for a few hours should do the trick.

Speaking of melee, I've pretty much melee'd all the way from level 200 to level 250, all on PFUDOR RE. Trying the same with a holy mage setup would get me pwned anytime I've met more than 5 of these at once...

Well I have tried melee before and on melee I have done arenas on IWBTH without any problem but I wanted the 2nd tier elemental and higher deprecating spells thats why I am maging right now.
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post Apr 23 2014, 20:26
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Thank you for the input, much appreciated.

About Pack Rat, I agree its very important, however I just went through "New Wings" on Hell difficulty and I still had 4 Heroic Mana and 3 Heroic Spirit pots left when I finished it so it can probably wait at least 20 more levels or so don't you agree?

Agreed, more damage would be nice, I've started looking for a magnificent rapier of slaughter. My only concern is with accuracy, won't the inevitably base accuracy bring down my damage like alot? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I already have an Exquisite Rapier of Slaughter from a drop and sure, damage is slightly higher (~2800 vs ~2600) but the slaughter is an item lvl 4 (4 butcher ranks) and the balance lvl 5 1 in butcher 1 in swift strike 2 in fatality and 1 in overpower; Wouldn't they pretty much be equivalents at item lvl 1?

Magnificent Arctic Rapier of Balance

Exquisite Rapier of Slaughter

Scremaz: Of course your'e right, I should've thought of that myself. Links below:

Superior Shade Helmet of Negation
Exquisite Shade Breastplate of the Shadowdancer
Exquisite Ruby Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet
Exquisite Agile Shade Leggings of the Fleet
Exquisite Agile Shade Boots of the Fleet

Magnificent Agile Kite Shield of Warding


malkatmp: Something along these lines?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3c3f49dc10

EDIT: Oh, and also, is Evade really THAT important that reducing the penalty incurred by the shield from ~12 to 3.5 is enough to justify a major increase in Interference (12 -> 30)? 12->30 will mean ~10% increased spell cost, right? Crit isn't very important since I self-cast almost always but spell cost seems important?


I found these two Rapiers that are even possibly in my price range, but they don't seem to be any major upgrade to me, or am I wrong? :S

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f6f9043f06

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bda3caaa6a

Otherwise I seem to be confined to either (Mag/Leg) Balance/Nimble etc OR items a bit out of price range (found a single one that was even close, at 1.8m)
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e184b51813

Sorry to bombard you guys like this but I now feel thoroughly insecure about all this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



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post Apr 23 2014, 21:10
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QUOTE(NMRUI @ Apr 23 2014, 20:26) *

as primary goal helmet needs an upgrade, the rest is still good to go. though as secondary goal you may want to try and search for 4PAB gears of the same class, you would have a nice boost in some stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(NMRUI @ Apr 23 2014, 20:26) *

EDIT: Oh, and also, is Evade really THAT important that reducing the penalty incurred by the shield from ~12 to 3.5 is enough to justify a major increase in Interference (12 -> 30)? 12->30 will mean ~10% increased spell cost, right? Crit isn't very important since I self-cast almost always but spell cost seems important?

evade is *THE* most important thing which all the shade concept goes around with: compared to leather it's a particular kind of armor which give additional damage and a nice boost to evade, in exchange for the loss in piercing mitigation; the aftermath is that evade is influenced by BUR: you can see how much simply by applying featherweights on your shield and rapier and comparing evade values before and after. note that evade is given also by AGI, thus another important stat to have. as for ITR, well... you have a nice HP tank and pack rat lv7, thus 12 potions. frankly speaking, what are we talking about? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(NMRUI @ Apr 23 2014, 20:26) *

holy_demon's shield sure is nice, IW8 and 3PABs, but imo the (almost) only benefit to yours may be the high END stat: given the actual price of force shields the price is good, but it's up to you whether to buy it or to keep searching for armors. you may still try to ask for a free ride (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(NMRUI @ Apr 23 2014, 20:26) *

I found these two Rapiers that are even possibly in my price range, but they don't seem to be any major upgrade to me, or am I wrong? :S

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f6f9043f06

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bda3caaa6a

Otherwise I seem to be confined to either (Mag/Leg) Balance/Nimble etc OR items a bit out of price range (found a single one that was even close, at 1.8m)
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e184b51813

warachision's rapier is something out of ordinary, thus the high price. maybe it isn't neither that high, but i'm not sure. komica's one had really good stats, fully IWed, but a very low proc duration - though you can still go for it if you kill mobs within 2 or 3 hits each; soso's one is a bit better but it isn't ethereal. first of all you should try to understand how much BUR is a burden for your armore, thus deciding to go for an ethereal rapier or for other kinds. btw, except for the missing PAB your exquisite one isn't so bad either...
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post Apr 23 2014, 23:47
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Well, I'll sell you your would-be 21st Pony (if nobody else will) if you're in the Santa Pony's list. Anyway, OFC is quite a powerful AoE skill that would prove invaluable for melee users, especially for 1H style. Manehattan Project perk is entirely optional.

Thanks I'll keep that in mind if I ever get there, what is this list you mentioned?

QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 23 2014, 19:34) *

it depends.

1h+heavy. it's a great addition that stays with you. also, speed up your clear time for 10-20%.
other melee. okay addition. though, without counters from 1H, your overcharge build up is slower. hence, not using OFC as much, because it cost 200 overcharge.
for mages, it's a nice collectibles.

I'm playing as 2H+light, okay addition sounds good enough to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

On another note, is it worth getting items which boosts your resist aka of negation suffix? There isn't much info on resist in the wiki as far as I can tell.
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post Apr 23 2014, 23:49
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will higher divine proff get me anything? like cheaper smite or smth?
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post Apr 23 2014, 23:58
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I've been wondering, are there any upgrades and such after level 500??
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post Apr 24 2014, 00:36
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Apr 23 2014, 14:49) *

will higher divine proff get me anything? like cheaper smite or smth?


For offensive spells, proficiency can reduce both cast speed and MP cost by 25% at most; provide a counter-resist bonus of up to 50%; and, reduce specific mitigation by 25 points at most.
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post Apr 24 2014, 00:53
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Okay, My Force Shield.

A Force Shield in action with a current bid of 1.2m.

A Force Shield for sale for 400k.

I'm lucky if I have 200k...

Should I really keep saving up? The only notable improvements I see are +End (and a very, very slight +Block improvement).
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post Apr 24 2014, 01:09
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What fighting style should I be using at 250?
And what type of armor should I have?

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