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Apr 20 2014, 17:50
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(catdrag0n @ Apr 20 2014, 22:26)  what's the better way to gain magic proficiency without burning lots of stamina on dozens of rounds? If you aren't grindfesting or otherwise running at least nearly half a thousand of rounds in a day, stamina would be the least of your concern. If it is, though, there's the Hard/Nightmare difficulty for you. Hellfesting to grind your magic proficiency is very ill-adviced at your level. I know, cuz I tried, and i ended up spend an entire mana potion just for healing&support spells. QUOTE(catdrag0n @ Apr 20 2014, 22:26)  I think the best way would be to somehow deal as low magic damage as possible so that I can spam lots of elemental spells before killing the mobs and if possible without getting too much damage myself. Lemme guess, you started considering mage setup now? As the wiki itself said, just spam your spells in your phase armaments, then start using shade armaments after your proc gain slows down to a crawl, which would happen around the time the proficiency have reached half your current level. QUOTE(catdrag0n @ Apr 20 2014, 22:26)  If a spell fails to connect, can I still gain proficiency? You can gain proficiency just fine even if it's evaded or resisted. This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Apr 20 2014, 17:56
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Apr 20 2014, 18:20
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something
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QUOTE(catdrag0n @ Apr 20 2014, 10:26)  Assuming effects processed by elemental spikes gets better with proficiency (so it occurs more often and lasts longer) , what's the better way to gain magic proficiency without burning lots of stamina on dozens of rounds?
I think the best way would be to somehow deal as low magic damage as possible so that I can spam lots of elemental spells before killing the mobs and if possible without getting too much damage myself.
Should I use cloth armor or just my usual mag shade build with a staff of focus?
If a spell fails to connect, can I still gain proficiency?
to build any prof ridiculously easy, go against the trio & the tree and attack everyone but the tree. if you're lucky the tree will be at the top or bottom, so you never have to worry about killing anyone. if you're a mage you can just spam t1 spells and ether tap all day.(edit: this trick doesn't work that well for grinding 2h prof. you're pretty much stuck doing it the hard way) you can also go against high difficulty real life as a mage and take 10 years to kill it w/o imperil and only t1 spells This post has been edited by something: Apr 20 2014, 18:27
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Apr 20 2014, 18:46
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etothex
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 20 2014, 07:10)  Unlike new players and power leveler player, old players mostly already have what they need. And they know how to improve the clear time so they can forge the suitable equipment without doubt.
In addition, old players mostly have some monsters that give them forge material so they do not need to spend extra credits if they are not in hurry.
So, start HV earlier is more important than having higher level IMO.
I'd say the the biggest advantage players who've been around awhile have is inflation. Even though drops are better now, can't compare to the dramatic cost in forging. If i had known SLaughter bindings would become so high priced, I would have bought as many as i could when they were 15k. I think they were around 35k when i took a long break from HV, and when I came back, they were like 140k. And now, you can't even get 5 for a million credits.
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Apr 21 2014, 04:26
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EsotericSatire
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Don't forget people doing 10k rounds of old grindfest.
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Apr 21 2014, 04:42
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Apr 21 2014, 10:26)  Don't forget people doing 10k rounds of old grindfest. Wait... there used to be 10000 rounds in grindfest? If so, there's a few things I wanna ask... 1. Comparing old and new grindfest, which one is harder to clear? 2. How much crystals (and credits) do you get from old grindfest back then? 3. And finally... is it true that tier 3 spells like Ragnarok used to have zero cooldown period? This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Apr 21 2014, 04:44
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Apr 21 2014, 04:46
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darkx
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QUOTE 3. And finally... is it true that tier 3 spells like Ragnarok used to have zero cooldown period?
There used to be no cool down period for any spell whatsoever
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Apr 21 2014, 07:48
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(darkx @ Apr 21 2014, 10:46)  There used to be no cool down period for any spell whatsoever So since when it did? Would've been easier to get the Dovahkin title back then...
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Apr 21 2014, 08:13
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treesloth
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 21 2014, 11:42)  Wait... there used to be 10000 rounds in grindfest? If so, there's a few things I wanna ask...
1. Comparing old and new grindfest, which one is harder to clear? 2. How much crystals (and credits) do you get from old grindfest back then? 3. And finally... is it true that tier 3 spells like Ragnarok used to have zero cooldown period?
There was no limit to grindfest. I didn't do any crystalfest bc I was weak as a pup back then, so I don't know how many crystals you could get. But I do know it was much harder to level mobs. And there were less credits flying around back then, so you'd just focus on getting equips and forging, not maxing mobs out like today. Too bad there is cooldown now, I feel weak with only a Smite or Corruption available. QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 21 2014, 14:48)  So since when it did? Would've been easier to get the Dovahkin title back then...
I remember IWTBH was super hard, I couldn't last many rounds; but I had jank gear then, so I don't know. Only older players can tell me if today's PFUDOR is harder than yesterday's IWTBH.
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Apr 21 2014, 08:30
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Usagi =
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Hey, is the golden lotto ticket tradable? Is it possible for someone to sell it on WTS?
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Apr 21 2014, 08:42
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Usagi =
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 21 2014, 14:38)  O okay. Well, I checked the wiki and it didn't say anything about tradability. So you should add that.
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Apr 21 2014, 08:49
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varst
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Apr 21 2014, 14:42)  O okay. Well, I checked the wiki and it didn't say anything about tradability. So you should add that.
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/lotteryQUOTE Golden tickets can be used on lotteries to automatically add 1,000 tickets to a player's bet at no cost and double their effective ticket count (this effect cannot exceed 10% of the total pool). This effect is not visible as it triggers at the time of drawing. These tickets cannot be traded/sold.
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Apr 21 2014, 08:51
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LostLogia4
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 21 2014, 14:38)  Anyone remember this incident? You know, THIS is the reason why the golden ticket was introduced in the first place. Someone had used multiple accounts to buy shitloads of tickets and won two prices at once when everyone should've have their fair shares of chances to win the lottery. These accounts has been closed off since, and when the golden ticket was introduced, it was naturally untradable to discourage multiple accounting. We're all have our shares of poverty in HV really, having one person monopolizing the lottery rewards would be even worse.
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Apr 21 2014, 08:55
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leonora
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hello i have coin set now , do i have to shrine it right away or wait for tonight ? thank you
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Apr 21 2014, 08:56
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Usagi =
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^^ You can shrine them now, don't wait till 22nd. QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 21 2014, 14:51)  Anyone remember this incident? You know, THIS is the reason why the golden ticket was introduced in the first place. Someone had used multiple accounts to buy shitloads of tickets and won two prices at once when everyone should've have their fair shares of chances to win the lottery. These accounts has been closed off since, and when the golden ticket was introduced, it was naturally untradable to discourage multiple accounting. We're all have our shares of poverty in HV really, having one person monopolizing the lottery rewards would be even worse. Well, the GLT was introduced to replace the 2nd prize of the lotto since it no longer gives GPs back because of said incident. But if I want I can always transfer a sum of gp to someone who has a GLT and pay them to bet for me. This post has been edited by LOL50015: Apr 21 2014, 08:58
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Apr 21 2014, 08:56
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Drakewyn
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QUOTE(leonora @ Apr 20 2014, 23:55)  hello i have coin set now , do i have to shrine it right away or wait for tonight ? thank you
Yes!
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Apr 21 2014, 08:58
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Apr 21 2014, 08:56)  QUOTE(leonora @ Apr 21 2014, 08:55)  hello i have coin set now , do i have to shrine it right away or wait for tonight ? thank you
Yes! yes, you have to shrine it right away, before the countdown in this other thread expires!
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Apr 21 2014, 09:03
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 21 2014, 08:51)  Anyone remember this incident? You know, THIS is the reason why the golden ticket was introduced in the first place. Someone had used multiple accounts to buy shitloads of tickets and won two prices at once interesting, now i understand a certain thing... QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 21 2014, 08:51)  everyone should've have their fair shares of chances to win the lottery. These accounts has been closed off since, and when the golden ticket was introduced, it was naturally untradable to discourage multiple accounting. We're all have our shares of poverty in HV really, having one person monopolizing the lottery rewards would be even worse.
however, is it only me or really winners are almost always the same? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Apr 21 2014, 09:04
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Apr 21 2014, 09:10
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Usagi =
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 21 2014, 15:03)  interesting, now i understand a certain thing... however, is it only me or really winners are almost always the same? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Well, yeah when there's nice prizes but since 2nd to 5th place prizes are untradable they don't stand to gain much, at least, not as much as pre-patch anyway. Although everytime GC wins some chaos tokens, it becomes a cause for concern.
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Apr 21 2014, 12:07
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Apr 21 2014, 09:10)  Well, yeah when there's nice prizes but since 2nd to 5th place prizes are untradable they don't stand to gain much, at least, not as much as pre-patch anyway.
Although everytime GC wins some chaos tokens, it becomes a cause for concern.
shouldn't we put the rule: no tokens for gc? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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