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post Apr 18 2014, 01:33
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just curious, is Swift Strike good also for main hand weapons?
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post Apr 18 2014, 02:34
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Is ofc worth it for mage? I have three million c and I don't want thinking cap becuase I won't care about exp after I hit 310. How much would it cost to go from 2078 base magic damage to 2800?
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post Apr 18 2014, 03:53
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 18 2014, 08:33) *

just curious, is Swift Strike good also for main hand weapons?

I like Butcher/Swift Strike on mainhand (especially for axe) and Fatality/Swift Strike on offhand for DW Light.
QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Apr 18 2014, 09:34) *

Is ofc worth it for mage? I have three million c and I don't want thinking cap becuase I won't care about exp after I hit 310. How much would it cost to go from 2078 base magic damage to 2800?

OFC damage is based on physical damage, so I think it's not good for mages.
Also, you should gather 200+ overcharges by striking your staff 26+ times hit. Very inefficient.
You need to get a decent and well-forged legendary destruction staff to raise so much MD...

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post Apr 18 2014, 04:11
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Apr 18 2014, 09:53) *
OFC damage is based on physical damage, so I think it's not good for mages.
Also, you should gather 200+ overcharges by striking your staff 26+ times hit. Very inefficient.
You need to get a decent and well-forged legendary destruction staff to raise so much MD...
As for me, I think high-level mages don't really need the OFC at all, though they're worth keeping whenever you occasionally do melee like me.
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post Apr 18 2014, 04:33
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Apr 18 2014, 07:08) *

Woohoo! SS4 at lvl.4! I'm golden. After consulting you guys, I never need to reforge it again, so only 12 shards used. Thank you!

SS4 at level 4 can end up with SS4 at lv9. I have too many experience about that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Apr 18 2014, 05:00
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I got a buyer for my Coin set, how do I set multiple items for a CoD in Mooglemail?
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post Apr 18 2014, 05:28
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QUOTE(GodHandZaWarudo @ Apr 17 2014, 23:00) *

I got a buyer for my Coin set, how do I set multiple items for a CoD in Mooglemail?


You can't send multiple items
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post Apr 18 2014, 05:29
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You can't send multiple items

So how do I set up a Cod involving 7 items as a bundle?
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post Apr 18 2014, 05:29
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Question for people who are doing PFUDOR DwD, is your clearing time getting slower than 2 weeks ago? My clearing time consistently becomes slower by 5 mins (from 75 to 80 mins T.T )

It started happening after the lottery change and gc was getting a buttload of chaos (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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post Apr 18 2014, 05:36
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Apr 17 2014, 14:14) *

Cash on Delivery.

Basically when you send a MM with an item attached and it has been set with a CoD, the buyer must pay first before he can remove the content.

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OMG, I'm getting so much junk from shrining precusor artifacts I feel like punching someone who's name rhymes with cornflake.


Gornflake?

Pornflake? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(GodHandZaWarudo @ Apr 17 2014, 20:00) *

I got a buyer for my Coin set, how do I set multiple items for a CoD in Mooglemail?

Divide up the cost between the items... if it's 120k for 7 items, then 17k for 6 of them, 18k for the last one.
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post Apr 18 2014, 05:49
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 18 2014, 05:29) *

Question for people who are doing PFUDOR DwD, is your clearing time getting slower than 2 weeks ago? My clearing time consistently becomes slower by 5 mins (from 75 to 80 mins T.T )

It started happening after the lottery change and gc was getting a buttload of chaos (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


didn't do DwD @ PF, but it seems "some monsters" are now stronger/hv more hp than SGs. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Apr 18 2014, 05:49
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QUOTE(GodHandZaWarudo @ Apr 17 2014, 23:29) *

So how do I set up a Cod involving 7 items as a bundle?


You have to send one item at a time.

If you're trying to save on cod cost, the only way is to get the hath perk. Otherwise you gotta pay each time you use cod, no way around it
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post Apr 18 2014, 06:01
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 17 2014, 20:49) *

didn't do DwD @ PF, but it seems "some monsters" are now stronger/hv more hp than SGs. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


Nope, no PL monsters come even close to matching SG at any level.
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post Apr 18 2014, 06:25
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 18 2014, 13:49) *

didn't do DwD @ PF, but it seems "some monsters" are now stronger/hv more hp than SGs. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

They don't have more HP than SG but since I have to adjust my HP scaling script, I know that some monsters have HP more than 800x my level (they're not "In memory of" though). "In memory" in particular used to have 650x my level before the lottery patch, now they have HP approaching to 800x my level.

To put it in perspective, Konata has ~1600x my level and the other SG around ~3000x my level

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post Apr 18 2014, 06:27
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Apr 18 2014, 11:36) *
Gornflake?

Pornflake? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
It's Snowflake Cornflake, actually, but the rhyme is still there all the same...
Also, Snowflake's true identity is actually a lowly servant to the "Random Number God", she needs luck (as in, the most ethereal of all the firmamentual conceptual forces known to all that is sapient) just as much as we do. Blame 10boro for setting the peerless equip drop probability to nearly nonexistent... but it's really just you and Snowflake being born unlucky for all your junkyard of rewards.

QUOTE(zen_zen @ Apr 18 2014, 12:01) *
Nope, no PL monsters come even close to matching SG at any level.
iirc from all my experience with these "In Memory of Dark Mages" critters they all have more or less the same HP as SGs at Normal difficulty (no joke!).

Anyway, does difficulty affect proficiency gains? I think it's a bit much to go straight to PFUDOR difficulty at Level 305 with an single digit prof hallowed mage setup...

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post Apr 18 2014, 09:26
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 17 2014, 21:27) *

It's Snowflake Cornflake, actually, but the rhyme is still there all the same...
Also, Snowflake's true identity is actually a lowly servant to the "Random Number God", she needs luck (as in, the most ethereal of all the firmamentual conceptual forces known to all that is sapient) just as much as we do. Blame 10boro for setting the peerless equip drop probability to nearly nonexistent... but it's really just you and Snowflake being born unlucky for all your junkyard of rewards.

iirc from all my experience with these "In Memory of Dark Mages" critters they all have more or less the same HP as SGs at Normal difficulty (no joke!).

Anyway, does difficulty affect proficiency gains? I think it's a bit much to go straight to PFUDOR difficulty at Level 305 with an single digit prof hallowed mage setup...


I know, I was just messin' with you... Though "Pornflake" would be a good monster name...

And no, difficulty doesn't directly affect proficiency gains. It does affect them in that the monsters have more HP, and thus take more castings/swings to kill though...
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Apr 18 2014, 15:26) *
I know, I was just messin' with you... Though "Pornflake" would be a good monster name...
The name is yours to assign it to one of your monsters. I personally prefer to name mine after idols... though none of them ever had an "idol" suffix...

QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Apr 18 2014, 15:26) *
And no, difficulty doesn't directly affect proficiency gains. It does affect them in that the monsters have more HP, and thus take more castings/swings to kill though...
That's good to hear, I guess my dread is unfounded...

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it seems to me that bot creates new objects, not that it buys from bazaar; or better, it buys from a sort of infinite-stocs bazaar, in which an auction principle rules over prices; what we call 'item shop' is actually only the surface of that, with base prices for items and way less reserves
Perhaps they scrapping'em off from monster loots that the adventurers missed... or Snowflake have the bots that actually syntheses and delivers them randomly.

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post Apr 18 2014, 12:02
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Need some advice after miserable failure with DwD at PFUDOR. The failure is more painful, cuz around 75 round I had only 2 spirit pots (I go 10MP/5SP) what left me with no chance to finish it at all. Despite of my level, I still didn't manage to clear any arena with more than 100 rounds, higher than hell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif).

What's threshold of ADB/PMI/MMI/evade I should go to if I want to clear DwD ? My best set is 1h with 5375 ADB, but I think MC will gonna kill me in the long run as it's even problem with fully sharded set during T&T. DW + heavy was even worse than DW + shade, so I don't even know now what to do with this dead end situation.

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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 18 2014, 12:29) *

Question for people who are doing PFUDOR DwD, is your clearing time getting slower than 2 weeks ago? My clearing time consistently becomes slower by 5 mins (from 75 to 80 mins T.T )

It started happening after the lottery change and gc was getting a buttload of chaos (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Not so different for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I guess because
1 SG : No matter
2 SG : During keep attacking SGs (40~50 turn) other monsters usually lose thier almost HP due to counter-attack.
3 SG : OFC can clear almost normal monsters after all.

QUOTE(HNTI @ Apr 18 2014, 19:02) *

Need some advice after miserable failure with DwD at PFUDOR. The failure is more painful, cuz around 75 round I had only 2 spirit pots (I go 10MP/5SP) what left me with no chance to finish it at all. Despite of my level, I still didn't manage to clear any arena with more than 100 rounds, higher than hell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif).

What's threshold of ADB/PMI/MMI/evade I should go to if I want to clear DwD ? My best set is 1h with 5375 ADB, but I think MC will gonna kill me in the long run as it's even problem with fully sharded set during T&T. DW + heavy was even worse than DW + shade, so I don't even know now what to do with this dead end situation.

If you use 1H Heavy, try to aim for 55+ block chance, 6k+ ADB, and 25~30%+ to all specific mitigation (At least holy, dark, and fire).
I think block chance and ADB is the most important stat for 1H Heavy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) PMI is relatively not so important on SG marathons IMO.
You may need to use focus if you feel lack of mana potions, though.
Spirit Theft is not a must-have, but it will help you keep balancing your MP and SP. It was really useful when I was 330~370 lvl.
Lastly, OFC will help you against 3 SGs + normal monsters
Beyond some threshold, you can clear DwD PFUDOR without using focus, deprecating spells, Spirit Theft and any shards.

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post Apr 18 2014, 13:12
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Apr 18 2014, 20:02) *

Need some advice after miserable failure with DwD at PFUDOR. The failure is more painful, cuz around 75 round I had only 2 spirit pots (I go 10MP/5SP) what left me with no chance to finish it at all. Despite of my level, I still didn't manage to clear any arena with more than 100 rounds, higher than hell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif).

What's threshold of ADB/PMI/MMI/evade I should go to if I want to clear DwD ? My best set is 1h with 5375 ADB, but I think MC will gonna kill me in the long run as it's even problem with fully sharded set during T&T. DW + heavy was even worse than DW + shade, so I don't even know now what to do with this dead end situation.


I cleared my first PFDUOR DwD with 55 block chance, 68 PMI, 60 MMI and 6500 ADB with forged shield and forged rapier. I did manage to clear IWBTH DwD before forging though, with 6000 ADB and 45 block, though I already have maxed IW all of my armors. I reckon VV, OFC, and IA2 are minimum requirement. SGs for 1H is just OFC, then spam Shield Bash -> Vital Strike -> (Merciful Blow if you got the chance)

I think Colman clear DwD PFUDOR with Axe+Rapier+Slaughter of protection with moderate forging on axe and rapier. So you could ask him about his strategy.

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