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Huh, you think that the chance elemental strike of either Hallowed or Dark gained as a result of max levelling an Ethereal Rapier is such a deal maker or breaker? I disagree, after all an ethereal weapon that gains an elemental strike do not behave like that elemental weapon. My Rapier that I play 1H with has Holy Strike but no cure bonus that a true Hallowed rapier would - if it did, that would be the cat's meow! Having that 1 extra Holy/Dark strike is always good since the SGs in the Marathon are susceptible to them but it's not all that significant, imo.

I'm 1H Heavy and prefer holy/dark rapier to ethereal one because
- 7 burden does not matter to 1H Heavy. I don't use any Featherweight and can keep burden around 70. If you really worry about it, just use a featherweight. It's very cheap.
- I don' t want to worry about random elemental strike at 10th lvl. After getting 5 Butcher or 5 Fatality with so many trials (+ so many amnesia shards), you should pray on the last luck to get holy/dark strike at 10th lvl. Well, this is not a problem if you stop IWing at 9th lvl and always use infusions, though. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I'm too lazy to use infusion...

Of course unless it's peerless or someone already make it 5 butcher+holy/dark strike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Why is Hallowed/Dark strike so important to get over one of the other elements?

I'm 1H Heavy and prefer holy/dark rapier to ethereal one because
- 7 burden does not matter to 1H Heavy. I don't use any Featherweight and can keep burden around 70. If you really worry about it, just use a featherweight. It's very cheap.
- I don' t want to worry about random elemental strike at 10th lvl. After getting 5 Butcher or 5 Fatality with so many trials (+ so many amnesia shards), you should pray on the last luck to get holy/dark strike at 10th lvl. Well, this is not a problem if you stop IWing at 9th lvl and always use infusions, though. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I'm too lazy to use infusion...

Of course unless it's peerless or someone already make it 5 butcher+holy/dark strike. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I don't worry about such triviality, burden of 7 on a rapier is negligible. I've been playing 1H Light so there's no burden from Shade either.

I've been pretty lucky so far, out of the 6 or 7 that I've levelled, 4 of them have been either Holy or Dark.

I don't worry about such triviality, burden of 7 on a rapier is negligible. I've been playing 1H Light so there's no burden from Shade either.

I've been pretty lucky so far, out of the 6 or 7 that I've levelled, 4 of them have been either Holy or Dark.

Yes, you're lucky. Or I'm just very unlucky so far (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )
Generally 5 butcher can be easily done within using 50~150 amnesia shards for me (plus 1~3 days) but after that I've never get holy/dark strike at 10th lvl. For 6 times consecutively! (fire, cold, fire, elec, cold, fire)

Why is Hallowed/Dark strike so important to get over one of the other elements?

Because Schoolgirls are weak against holy/dark (except Konata).
You don't need to get holy/dark strike if you do not run SG marathons on high difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

This post has been edited by Cats Lover: Apr 16 2014, 04:55

Just want some comfirmation:

Do coins still just give 1 hath if it gives you hath?

Just want some comfirmation:

Do coins still just give 1 hath if it gives you hath?

Yes.

Yes, you're lucky. Or I'm just very unlucky so far (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )
Generally 5 butcher can be easily done within using 50~150 amnesia shards for me (plus 1~3 days) but after that I've never get holy/dark strike at 10th lvl. For 6 times consecutively! (fire, cold, fire, elec, cold, fire)

50 ~150 shards, I've not had that many shards ever. Even after the intro of Fatality and Overpower, I was able to get Butcher 5 twice with Dark strikes. This Axe that I got from Treesloth's auction, I poured 10 Amnesia shards into it - started off quite promising getting Butcher 3 by Lv6 but it's at Lv8 with only 1 potency left to acquire. Butcher 4 would be very nice but I won't be resetting this again no matter the outcome (I would have IW'ed it more leisurely if it wasn't for the Easter event (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ).

This post has been edited by zen_zen: Apr 16 2014, 06:25

^^
Oh okay, thanks.

So about IW:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ca6f2ac4b1

Should I reforge this to get 4/5 SS or would having fatality be better?
I currently have 42.5% crit chance and 30.8% attack speed

This post has been edited by LOL50015: Apr 16 2014, 06:53

Yes, you're lucky. Or I'm just very unlucky so far (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )
Generally 5 butcher can be easily done within using 50~150 amnesia shards for me (plus 1~3 days) but after that I've never get holy/dark strike at 10th lvl. For 6 times consecutively! (fire, cold, fire, elec, cold, fire)
Because Schoolgirls are weak against holy/dark (except Konata).
You don't need to get holy/dark strike if you do not run SG marathons on high difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

By SG Marathon did you mean the DwD arena? I've noticed that you fight as much as 224 Legendaries (read:Schoolgirls) there...

Anyway, what's the recommended level and equips to challenge Hellfest and IWBTH runs?

^^
Oh okay, thanks.

So about IW:

Legendary Tempestous Wakizashi of Balance

Should I reforge this to get 4/5 SS or would having fatality be better?
I currently have 42.5% crit chance and 30.8% attack speed

First of all, I've fixed your link. Secondly, Overpower is (generally) more important than Butcher for offhand weapons. Whether Fatality is worth keeping spends on your critical hit rate, if it's not halfway decent, you might need to consider reforging it.

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Apr 16 2014, 06:55

By SG Marathon did you mean the DwD arena? I've noticed that you fight as much as 224 Legendaries there...

Anyway, what's the recomended level and equips to challenge Hellfest and IWBTH runs?

IWBTH is pretty easy. just get to level 250 so your Spirit Shield becomes better. You could build high defense with 1H + Shade/Power Protection to do them early.

Hellfest is not really worth it if you can't do the entire run, not with the current Energy Drink price. You'd most likely need VV, IA2, some forging on the weapons, some capacitator and juggernaut level on your armor, and crystarium 1/2 (since they're relatively cheap if you're able to get all of the above lol)

First of all, I've fixed your link. Secondly, Overpower is (generally) more important than Butcher for offhand weapons. Whether Fatality is worth keeping spends on your critical hit rate, if it's not halfway decent, you might need to consider reforging it.

with Offhand, Swift Strike > Fatality = Overpower > Butcher.

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Apr 16 2014, 07:00

So, I'm trying to use DW, and so far my knowledge of suitable weapons can be boiled down to "main hand must be of slaughter". Can someone outline popular combinations of weapons for me?

Well, I have club mainhand so OP shouldn't be needed
It's just that I don't know if SS or Fatal makes enough a difference to make it worth reforging it.

A semi-chaosed monster or PFUDOR has a 25% extra speed. At most, I'll get 37% extra speed with SS5, the 10% faster doesn't really give me that many extra actions.

At the same time, fatality max, will maybe give me 10% more crit damage, but I would probably still need the same amount of hits to kill a monster.

Maybe I should just move on and get my hollowforge?
Or maybe I should get a new swift waki?

So, I'm trying to use DW, and so far my knowledge of suitable weapons can be boiled down to "main hand must be of slaughter". Can someone outline popular combinations of weapons for me?

The most common setup is Slaughter Axe/Club mainhand and Nimble/balance Rapier/Waki off-hand
Slaughter for damage, balance for off-hand stirke chance and Nimble because DW offhand gets 50% extra parry.
Of course, some people also use Axe-Club for high stopping power.

This post has been edited by LOL50015: Apr 16 2014, 08:13

with Offhand, Swift Strike > Fatality = Overpower > Butcher.

Yes, I'd agree with Swift Strike being the best potency for an offhand. ~10% of attack speed is fancy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
And, many said that we should go Butcher for mainhand but I myself prefer Swift Strike over that, is it wrong? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Anyway, what's the recommended level and equips to challenge Hellfest and IWBTH runs?

For Hellfest, level is not that important, if you have patient (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .
Level 250+ should be able to do the slow way.
I recommend IA 3/4 because it is troublesome to recast buffs often. VV is helpful to prevent accident death. RR can make you last a bit longer but it is not necessary.

For starter, whatever armors are alright, but sure to make them a set, i.e. full leather or shade (no mix) / a mix of heavy. Then go for 1H with a good shield. My experience tell me that 50% block can allow me to use axe. 38% block is sufficient with rapier.

The fast way:
If your attack power is high (full power slaughter/balance), you do not really need to care about anything. Just hit and kill is alright. The gem can cover your MP/SP lost in most of the time. So you can have a common ratio of MP/SP pots. (15 turns or less per round is necessary)

The slow way:
If your attack power is not high but with strong defense (full leather of protection), your sp will run out in late round and you need some way to recover it. In this case, you need dark magic and SP absorb. What you need to bring is MP potion only. (and make it to 13 pots if you haven't)

If both your attack and defense are not good. Well.............. forge your shield until your defense is good enough. Then go for the slow way.

The fastest way:
Become mage
The way to become a mage is [www.cellworks.co.jp] here. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by Colman: Apr 16 2014, 08:44

So, I'm trying to use DW, and so far my knowledge of suitable weapons can be boiled down to "main hand must be of slaughter". Can someone outline popular combinations of weapons for me?

"main hand must be of slaughter" ~ can't argue with that.
Offhand is flexible depend on how you play. For example of Not Popular combination is me using Shortsword of Slaughter on offhand. Well, good enough for Hell arena. I doubt i'll ever play on PF in nearest time. But that just me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

For Hellfest, level is not that important, if you have patient (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .
Level 250+ should be able to do the slow way.
I recommend IA 3/4 because it is troublesome to recast buffs often. VV is helpful to prevent accident death. RR can make you last a bit longer but it is not necessary.

For starter, whatever armors are alright, but sure to make them a set, i.e. full leather or shade (no mix) / a mix of heavy. Then go for 1H with a good shield. My experience tell me that 50% block can allow me to use axe. 38% block is sufficient with rapier.

The fast way:
If your attack power is high (full power slaughter/balance), you do not really need to care about anything. Just hit and kill is alright. The gem can cover your MP/SP lost in most of the time. So you can have a common ratio of MP/SP pots. (15 turns or less per round is necessary)

The slow way:
If your attack power is not high but with strong defense (full leather of protection), your sp will run out in late round and you need some way to recover it. In this case, you need dark magic and SP absorb. What you need to bring is MP potion only. (and make it to 13 pots if you haven't)

If both your attack and defense are not good. Well.............. forge your shield until your defense is good enough. Then go for the slow way.

The fastest way:
Become mage
The way to become a mage is [www.cellworks.co.jp] here. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'll stick with my mage setup, thank you. But that would make Lv305 the bare minimum for my Hellfest challenge... thing is, can the mage's defense hold out till then?

Anyway, what in the world is VV (V2? V2 Rockets?) you mentioned here anyway...?

That too, does anyone here have a Peercoin?

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Apr 16 2014, 09:03

Anyway, what in the world is VV (V2? V2 Rockets?) you mentioned here anyway...?

Just a useful hath perk upgrade. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

Vigorous Vitality Increases your maximum health by 25%. 250 Hath

This post has been edited by kos9494: Apr 16 2014, 09:01

I'll stick with my mage setup, thank you. But that would make Lv305 the bare minimum for my Hellfest challenge... thing is, can the mage's defense hold out till then?

Anyway, what in the world is VV (V2? V2 Rockets?) you mentioned here anyway...?

Vigorous Vitality - Increases your maximum health by 25%.

maybe it's just me, but i'd skip hellfest. i don't hv enough time to finish arenas, so hellfest is out of the question. iirc, last time i've spent 4hrs for ~600rds of hellfest. ran out of potions & died. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

I'll stick with my mage setup, thank you. But that would make Lv305 the bare minimum for my Hellfest challenge... thing is, can the mage's defense hold out till then?

Anyway, what in the world is VV (V2? V2 Rockets?) you mentioned here anyway...?

VV and RR are hath perks

VV = Vigorous Vitality
Increases your maximum health by 25%.

RR = Resplendent Regeneration
Increases both your in-combat and out-of-combat regeneration by 50%.

edit: I'm late (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Colman: Apr 16 2014, 09:04

The fastest way:
Become mage
The way to become a mage is [www.cellworks.co.jp] here. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

How much forging on mage do you need to clear HF? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

How much forging on mage do you need to clear HF? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

One thing I've neglected to ask: How much crystals did you get for clearing Hellfest anyway?

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Apr 16 2014, 09:27