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post Apr 15 2014, 19:53
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 15 2014, 10:35) *

Btw, how do you guys know if it has MAX ADB or whatever stat? Is there some sort of script that calculates that for me? Coz I suck in Maths. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges

Basically compare the numbers from the equipment you are interested in with the projected maximum shown in the wiki to determine if it's suitable or not. It's impossible or extremely rare to find any equipment that excels in all front, thus you need to decide which of the stats are of the highest importance for your build. Btw, the accuracy on that rapier is outstanding (essential for an offhand) but far too pricey.
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post Apr 15 2014, 20:02
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 15 2014, 19:33) *

too much cotton.

you should start switching to Phase stuff. also, pick a specialize element.

moreover, one of them miss INT. at his level he shouldn't have that problem with cotton armors O.o

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also, iirc, Staff should hv matching suffix/prefixes or Destruction. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

yep. focus may also be viable if you want to have a high-mana-conserving set, but basically destruction or matching prefix/tipology/suffix are the best choices
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post Apr 15 2014, 20:02
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 16 2014, 01:48) *

600k is my upper limit. You can pay more if you are in hurry.

This is not too far away from the weapon you quoted. But it can only go up to 200k. If you do not forge weapon, these two are not very different as off hand weapon.
You can see its base stat when your mouse pointer is over the its stat. Then compare with the range here.



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http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges

Basically compare the numbers from the equipment you are interested in with the projected maximum shown in the wiki to determine if it's suitable or not. It's impossible or extremely rare to find any equipment that excels in all front, thus you need to decide which of the stats are of the highest importance for your build. Btw, the accuracy on that rapier is outstanding (essential for an offhand) but far too pricey.


Roger that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Apr 15 2014, 20:24
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that rapier's nice, but mag eths tend to be overpriced. Holy_demon is right about its value though. At higher levels, PA chance doesn't mean much, since high crit chance compensates. w/ Shadowdancer +obscene crit chance, 18% vs 25% is a non-issue, while 100 offhand strike is something that can only be achieve w/ mag range+ accuracy.

If you're gonna forge/IW it, might consider an elemental. People are too wedded to the term "ethereal". mag elemental rapier + IW (or paying to level) costs 1 million less. Find a less than 7 (or even slightly over 7) burden rapier, and feather it for when the extra -7 burden actually matters / pfudor. It won't matter on the other difficulties. As colman said, ethereal is only useful (in low burden cases) when you're not forging/IWing.

Until you get a peerless eth of course (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Apr 15 2014, 22:03
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Thanks for all the advice.

Btw, has anyone tried out Rapier of Slaughter + Rapier of Balance combo? I thought it would be good since PA chances from mainhand and offhand do stack together.
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post Apr 15 2014, 22:17
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 15 2014, 13:03) *

Thanks for all the advice.

Btw, has anyone tried out Rapier of Slaughter + Rapier of Balance combo? I thought it would be good since PA chances from mainhand and offhand do stack together.

It's decent, but the actual damage is a little lacking. A Rapier of Slaughter rarely has even the damage of a Club of Balance, much less an Axe of Slaughter.
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post Apr 15 2014, 22:35
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QUOTE(etothex @ Apr 15 2014, 11:24) *

that rapier's nice, but mag eths tend to be overpriced. Holy_demon is right about its value though. At higher levels, PA chance doesn't mean much, since high crit chance compensates. w/ Shadowdancer +obscene crit chance, 18% vs 25% is a non-issue, while 100 offhand strike is something that can only be achieve w/ mag range+ accuracy.

If you're gonna forge/IW it, might consider an elemental. People are too wedded to the term "ethereal". mag elemental rapier + IW (or paying to level) costs 1 million less. Find a less than 7 (or even slightly over 7) burden rapier, and feather it for when the extra -7 burden actually matters / pfudor. It won't matter on the other difficulties. As colman said, ethereal is only useful (in low burden cases) when you're not forging/IWing.

Until you get a peerless eth of course (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


I would also recommend an elemental for one of the two DW weapons, preferably Hallowed for the bonus heal attribute. I was Iw'ing this Rapier looking forward to integrating it as my offhand but acquiring a Mag hallowed rapier made it somewhat redundant. I'll probably send it off to be auctioned one of these days. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 15 2014, 13:03) *

Thanks for all the advice.

Btw, has anyone tried out Rapier of Slaughter + Rapier of Balance combo? I thought it would be good since PA chances from mainhand and offhand do stack together.


I did but the damage was lacking to make the combo unsuitable for higher difficulties.
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post Apr 15 2014, 22:38
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Apr 15 2014, 22:17) *

It's decent, but the actual damage is a little lacking. A Rapier of Slaughter rarely has even the damage of a Club of Balance, much less an Axe of Slaughter.

yep. plus, with a PA chance of 25% it's unlikely not to proc within two hits, so it'd be redundant... much better to differentiate at this point...

btw, i just came across a weapon of the battlecaster with magic damage: if i remember correct they were retired some time ago, so how much could be worthy for a collector?
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post Apr 15 2014, 22:44
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Apr 16 2014, 04:35) *

I would also recommend an elemental for one of the two DW weapons, preferably Hallowed for the bonus heal attribute. I was Iw'ing this Rapier


What? Since when can an elemental strike proc. effects like this? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Apr 15 2014, 22:53
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 15 2014, 16:44) *

What? Since when can an elemental strike proc. effects like this? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


Holy EDB has a side effect of making cure stronger. it's the only one that has something like that though.
if i remember correctly, treesloth's heimdall set made his cure as strong as full cure

read more about it here http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Curative

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post Apr 15 2014, 22:56
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 15 2014, 22:44) *

What? Since when can an elemental strike proc. effects like this? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

since a few time ago (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
the amount of HP restored with Cure spell depends on the amount of AP used on that ability and the bonus holy damage given by armors/weapons: wiki

at my level and with 6000 base health, a base 8 holy damage is enough to give me a boost 1000 HP with every Cure casted. the aftermath is the burden, since the weapon isn't ethereal...
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post Apr 15 2014, 23:11
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QUOTE(something @ Apr 16 2014, 04:53) *

Holy EDB has a side effect of making cure stronger. it's the only one that has something like that though.
if i remember correctly, treesloth's heimdall set made his cure as strong as full cure

read more about it here http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Curative



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since a few time ago (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
the amount of HP restored with Cure spell depends on the amount of AP used on that ability and the bonus holy damage given by armors/weapons: wiki

at my level and with 6000 base health, a base 8 holy damage is enough to give me a boost 1000 HP with every Cure casted. the aftermath is the burden, since the weapon isn't ethereal...


Too many things to take together... I wanna cry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Nvm, I'd decide I won't make my life hard just for an enhanced cure. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 15 2014, 23:11) *

Too many things to take together... I wanna cry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Nvm, I'd decide I won't make my life hard just for an enhanced cure. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

lol, you remember me a friend of mine when she was studying for an exam, and also me the first years tbh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
i was thinking to search for a hallowed rapier too, but can't mix it with shade nor with heavy since i'm right at 70BUR, so i think i'll also give up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) maybe with a 7BUR weapon and a couple of mithril pieces... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 15 2014, 23:40
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Apr 16 2014, 06:35) *

I would also recommend an elemental for one of the two DW weapons, preferably Hallowed for the bonus heal attribute. I was Iw'ing this Rapier looking forward to integrating it as my offhand but acquiring a Mag hallowed rapier made it somewhat redundant. I'll probably send it off to be auctioned one of these days. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I did but the damage was lacking to make the combo unsuitable for higher difficulties.


You know, Hallowed and Demonic Rapier tend to get even more overpriced than Ethereal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 16 2014, 00:04
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 15 2014, 14:40) *

You know, Hallowed and Demonic Rapier tend to get even more overpriced than Ethereal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


No, it does not. I sent one of my levelled Hallowed Balance Rapier to D's auction, which attracted 1 starting bid. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) I've sent to G's auction, levelled Ethereals of similar quality and they usually fetch upwards of 300k.
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Apr 16 2014, 08:04) *

No, it does not. I sent one of my levelled Hallowed Balance Rapier to D's auction, which attracted 1 starting bid. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) I've sent to G's auction, levelled Ethereals of similar quality and they usually fetch upwards of 300k.


If your Ethereal has holy strike/dark strike then people were basically paying 300k for the strike, not the actual rapier....Either way, you might probably some stats; stats > prefix

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post Apr 16 2014, 00:37
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Are there coins other than litecoin and dogecoin? haven't had em yet...
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Apr 16 2014, 06:37) *
Are there coins other than litecoin and dogecoin? haven't had em yet...

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=164768

Gotta hit up the other battle modes for the other kinds.
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 15 2014, 15:22) *

If your Ethereal has holy strike/dark strike then people were basically paying 300k for the strike, not the actual rapier....Either way, you might probably some stats; stats > prefix


Huh, you think that the chance elemental strike of either Hallowed or Dark gained as a result of max levelling an Ethereal Rapier is such a deal maker or breaker? I disagree, after all an ethereal weapon that gains an elemental strike do not behave like that elemental weapon. My Rapier that I play 1H with has Holy Strike but no cure bonus that a true Hallowed rapier would - if it did, that would be the cat's meow! Having that 1 extra Holy/Dark strike is always good since the SGs in the Marathon are susceptible to them but it's not all that significant, imo.
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post Apr 16 2014, 02:10
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Apr 15 2014, 15:37) *

Are there coins other than litecoin and dogecoin? haven't had em yet...


If you've got spares, I can trade you for an Aurora & Dark that I have spare (the one's from IW).

I've already turned in my set of 7.
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