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Apr 13 2014, 15:45
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boulay
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 13 2014, 15:28)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) how many matches/rounds? nowadays, if i can see 1 artifact/week is still a good average... Just did all the available arenas on hell (except the first four on PFUDOR/BT) hoping I would catch some coins plus 35 rounds in BTfest.
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Apr 13 2014, 15:47
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kos9494
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 13 2014, 19:59)  i'd wish i've read this before reforging my rapier for a 3rd time. goodbye 6 shards. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) though, still no IW coins drop. it seems like it's easiest to "farm" GF coins. I got more than 2 IW coins of each kind without trying before I realized that was an event. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) And when I attempted to farm some GF coins I couldn't get any. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) "The more you hope, the less likely you will get it." This post has been edited by kos9494: Apr 13 2014, 16:54
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Apr 13 2014, 15:58
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(boulay @ Apr 13 2014, 15:45)  Just did all the available arenas on hell (except the first four on PFUDOR/BT) hoping I would catch some coins plus 35 rounds in BTfest.
now i'm jealous. i've never got double digit artifacts/tokens from doing all the aviable arenas. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 13 2014, 15:47)  I got more than 2 IW coins without trying before I realized that was an event. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) And when I attempted to farm some GF coins I couldn't get any. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) "The more you hope, the less like you will get it." still no IW coin drops, just traded one couple hours ago. i guess it's one of those days. though, i still have a vertcoin/flappycoin to trade for a darkcoin.
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Apr 13 2014, 16:03
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boulay
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 13 2014, 15:58)  now i'm jealous. i've never got double digit artifacts/tokens from doing all the aviable arenas. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Well, yesterday was lucky, I never did that before either. Maybe it's the event effect ^^
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Apr 13 2014, 16:10
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treesloth
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 13 2014, 22:58)  though, i still have a vertcoin/flappycoin to trade for a darkcoin.
I'll take a flappy for a dark if you want. just send it to me, and i'll return the dark. Thx
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Apr 13 2014, 16:20
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Apr 13 2014, 16:10)  I'll take a flappy for a dark if you want. just send it to me, and i'll return the dark. Thx
thanks. coin sent. Now i've 1 full set. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Apr 13 2014, 17:21
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mutsdhr
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 13 2014, 12:25)  If you intend to sell it, IW it to max <snip> i wouldn't do it, if i planned to sell it (and not to keep) i would send it to someone who accepts specific requests, that would have to be what market wants from a main hand slaughter weapon, like butcher lv4~5, a couple of fatality etc etc: that may cost you a bit more, but surely will give the best ROI for you. obviously, since the last level is hollowforge you can do it by yourself and spare some credits (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) nice piece, btw (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) well.. need to think about it ! would really need some Highforged player to IW it only on butcher & fatality^^ have throwing all my credits @ Hath exchange last few months .. so jeah ..damn ^^ but one thing is sure ..it isnt funny running IW on that Katana (rounds 80-100 are hell) -.- not with my gear ! still got 1 Butcher & 1 Overpower on first run ..soo it means keep going !
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Apr 13 2014, 17:55
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bellyzard
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Out of curiosity, since damage with melee weapons runs on strength, would it be viable for a mage to run with strength 1, wield something like a crude mace (for the stun), and hit mobs in grindfests to gain mana via focus, or am I just plain crazy? The trade off would be lower killing power; but if it is possible to 'tank' one mob, that mob could potentially be a huge mana farm (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Apr 13 2014, 18:03
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darkx
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QUOTE(bellyzard @ Apr 13 2014, 11:55)  Out of curiosity, since damage with melee weapons runs on strength, would it be viable for a mage to run with strength 1, wield something like a crude mace (for the stun), and hit mobs in grindfests to gain mana via focus, or am I just plain crazy? The trade off would be lower killing power; but if it is possible to 'tank' one mob, that mob could potentially be a huge mana farm (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I play as a mage, and I think you should stick with a staff if you're playing as a mage.
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Apr 13 2014, 18:30
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GodHandZaWarudo
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(IMG:[ i57.tinypic.com] http://i57.tinypic.com/dq0h2e.png) Alright, my progress report for a milestone I set for myself, hitting lvl 150. I have a shade of fleet set, and use 2H. Any suggestions on how I should handle these stats, along with what gear I should go for next? This post has been edited by GodHandZaWarudo: Apr 13 2014, 18:32
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Apr 13 2014, 19:00
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(GodHandZaWarudo @ Apr 13 2014, 17:30)  (IMG:[ i57.tinypic.com] http://i57.tinypic.com/dq0h2e.png) Alright, my progress report for a milestone I set for myself, hitting lvl 150. I have a shade of fleet set, and use 2H. Any suggestions on how I should handle these stats, along with what gear I should go for next? yes, 1) stick with an ethereal longsword (if you really mean to keep that style) or start to try a estoc/mace; 2) add something like twenty points of INT for SP bar. This post has been edited by Scremaz: Apr 13 2014, 19:02
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Apr 13 2014, 19:29
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GodHandZaWarudo
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 13 2014, 19:00)  yes, 1) stick with an ethereal longsword (if you really mean to keep that style) or start to try a estoc/mace; 2) add something like twenty points of INT for SP bar.
Hmm, an Ethereral? Alright, I'll save up for that, what about for armor? I was thinking Shadowdancer. This post has been edited by GodHandZaWarudo: Apr 13 2014, 19:30
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Apr 13 2014, 19:47
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(GodHandZaWarudo @ Apr 13 2014, 19:29)  Hmm, an Ethereral? Alright, I'll save up for that, what about for armor? I was thinking Shadowdancer.
imo, everything depends. though, if you haven't got max pack rat yet, that might be something you want to work on first. also, it all comes down to min-maxing to a certain extend. ie getting the most benefit out of your time/credits. you might get a Mag non-ethereal weapon that boost your damage by 200 instead of a more expensive exq ethereal one. or you might spend the same amount on better shade armors that can get you the same 200 damage & another 5% evade. it's hard to comment on what you need without seeing what you got. you can hover on the equipment & press C to popup an item window with link. attach them here. This post has been edited by malkatmp: Apr 13 2014, 19:49
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Apr 13 2014, 20:20
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(GodHandZaWarudo @ Apr 13 2014, 18:29)  Hmm, an Ethereral? Alright, I'll save up for that, what about for armor? I was thinking Shadowdancer.
well, your actual weapon doesn't seem so bad, the matter is that you're using shade so you either will need an ethereal weapon o a lot of featherweights to keep that high evade. as for armor, you can remain with Fleet, for now it's more important for you to have a full-4PAB armor set rather than a bit of crit damage more. and besides, you haven't the money required for a shadowdancer set comparable with your current one (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Apr 13 2014, 20:22
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Apr 13 2014, 20:22
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(GodHandZaWarudo @ Apr 13 2014, 20:00)  most of your stuff is pretty good. though, it's just how the game is Longsword/Estoc is a bit dangerous on higher difficulty. you'll end up getting ganged up & die pretty easy. Mace will be safer & allow yourself to start doing more PF. next focus will probably be max pack rat = more potions = last longer @higher difficulty = lvling faster. then upgrade, Helmet. Helmet has pretty good evade, but 2PAB. also, imo, other kinds of shades can be good too. (ie negation or arcanist).
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Apr 13 2014, 20:55
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GodHandZaWarudo
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 13 2014, 20:20)  well, your actual weapon doesn't seem so bad, the matter is that you're using shade so you either will need an ethereal weapon o a lot of featherweights to keep that high evade. as for armor, you can remain with Fleet, for now it's more important for you to have a full-4PAB armor set rather than a bit of crit damage more.
and besides, you haven't the money required for a shadowdancer set comparable with your current one ;)
QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 13 2014, 20:22)  most of your stuff is pretty good. though, it's just how the game is Longsword/Estoc is a bit dangerous on higher difficulty. you'll end up getting ganged up & die pretty easy. Mace will be safer & allow yourself to start doing more PF.
next focus will probably be max pack rat = more potions = last longer @higher difficulty = lvling faster.
then upgrade, Helmet. Helmet has pretty good evade, but 2PAB. also, imo, other kinds of shades can be good too. (ie negation or arcanist).
You both bring up the longsword as being a potential issue the further I go in, due to the matter of evasion. As I understand, my options are: a) Get an Ethereal Longsword b) Use Featherweight shards on my Longsword c) Use a Mace I really like using Longsword, along with its high damage. So, that leaves me with options a and b. Apparently the Featherweight shard treatments are temporary, so I'd need to stockpile them. They aren't expensive, are they? I'm thinking then that maybe it's better to save up and go with an Ethereal Longsword, though I notice that their damage doesn't go as high as the sword I have now, yet still cost so much, unless there's stat modifiers that show up for my longsword due to my stats and make its damage appear as more? I've gone ahead and invested 4 points in pack rat, I'll go for more after I've gotten a better shade fleet helmet with at least 3PAB, and maybe even an Ethereal Longsword.
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Apr 13 2014, 21:26
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(GodHandZaWarudo @ Apr 13 2014, 19:55)  You both bring up the longsword as being a potential issue the further I go in, due to the matter of evasion. As I understand, my options are: a) Get an Ethereal Longsword (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Use Featherweight shards on my Longsword c) Use a Mace I really like using Longsword, along with its high damage. So, that leaves me with options a and b. Apparently the Featherweight shard treatments are temporary, so I'd need to stockpile them. They aren't expensive, are they? I'm thinking then that maybe it's better to save up and go with an Ethereal Longsword, though I notice that their damage doesn't go as high as the sword I have now, yet still cost so much, unless there's stat modifiers that show up for my longsword due to my stats and make its damage appear as more? I've gone ahead and invested 4 points in pack rat, I'll go for more after I've gotten a better shade fleet helmet with at least 3PAB, and maybe even an Ethereal Longsword. ethereal weapons deal void damage, that (different from all other kinds, including slashing and holy) can't be mitigated but only resisted, so surely an ethereal longsword may be way more effective than your actual, even with 200 less DMG, and btw at my level 23 BUR is enough to kill 8 points evade: whether it's acceptable or not, it's up to you to decide, but frankly speaking i couldn't afford to lose 20% of my evade due to a non-ethereal gear. btw, featherweight cost about 500c each at shopbot, but they can't remove all that BUR/ITR if i remember corret. and still, you're slowly approaching the level in which bleeding wound would become way less effective than stun or penetrated armor, so you may want to try an estoc or a mace: i sent to you a couple of examples, give them a check (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Apr 13 2014, 21:48
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 14 2014, 05:26)  and still, you're slowly approaching the level in which bleeding wound would become way less effective than stun or penetrated armor, so you may want to try an estoc or a mace: i sent to you a couple of examples, give them a check (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) FYI, on 1H, axe clears just as fast as rapier everywhere except SG. So bleeding wound is pretty viable even at high level
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Apr 13 2014, 21:51
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 13 2014, 20:48)  FYI, on 1H, axe clears just as fast as rapier everywhere except SG. So bleeding wound is pretty viable even at high level
yes, but we're speaking about 2H here...
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