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I was having fun rising my weapon and armor prof. in Hell difficulty and the next thing I found is that I'm over-leveled. .____.

Is it a good sign or should I stop leveling and grind all my proficiency instead?

And, what's the factors that affect gaining rate for weapon and armor proficiency?

Thanks for enlightening.

P.S. There are just too many posts to go through to find the answers myself so please forgive me. :'(

You can use the wiki to find answers on your own, so you don't have to read back through this thread: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse

Anyway, if the game is too easy, then it might be time to increase the difficulty.

You shouldn't need to grind most proficiencies; the only ones you might want to consider grinding are Supportive and Deprecating. Proficiency gain rate slows down the closer the base proficiency you're raising gets to your character level. The rate can be increased with the Assimilation training, but it's not worth it.

can anyone tell me if axe or rapier is better for 1H shade(specifically 1H old-arcanist)?
i know it really doesn't matter much for 1H power, but with shade i figured i might be better off with high burden level 10 elemental axe to decrease evade and inversely increase block chance.

New questions.

I was having fun rising my weapon and armor prof. in Hell difficulty and the next thing I found is that I'm over-leveled. .____.

Is it a good sign or should I stop leveling and grind all my proficiency instead?

And, what's the factors that affect gaining rate for weapon and armor proficiency?

Thanks for enlightening.

P.S. There are just too many posts to go through to find the answers myself so please forgive me. :'(

You get weapon and armor proficiency when hit or get hit. The more it deal the faster it rate. Idk what affect it point per gain thought,

You can use the wiki to find answers on your own, so you don't have to read back through this thread: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse

Anyway, if the game is too easy, then it might be time to increase the difficulty.

You shouldn't need to grind most proficiencies; the only ones you might want to consider grinding are Supportive and Deprecating. Proficiency gain rate slows down the closer the base proficiency you're raising gets to your character level. The rate can be increased with the Assimilation training, but it's not worth it.

To add that, I come to a conclusion that on lower level or difficulty, Deprecating aren't needed. It most important skill is Silence and you need high proc for that.
You can grin proc really fast by spamming Weaken after unlock it 0cd at level 250. If you need it in hurry, 1cd faster weaken unlock at level 165.
Currently all my mana goes to Supportive and it proc rise naturally. That just me melee DW. I can't / don't play on PFUDOR yet. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

can anyone tell me if axe or rapier is better for 1H shade(specifically 1H old-arcanist)?
i know it really doesn't matter much for 1H power, but with shade i figured i might be better off with high burden level 10 elemental axe to decrease evade and inversely increase block chance.

imo, it really depends on the Rapier/Axe.

the following stuff is Pure Speculation:

however, i'd rather have the extra Parries with a Rapier. An Axe might weight you down a bit & improve your block by a few%, but it also lowers your parry chance by ~10%(?!). though, an axe might be great on Hell/Nightmare stuff & it does ~500more base damage.

currently, i'm trying to Max out this Axe, so i can clear out the first page of arena @ hell faster & get some more tokens. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

my rapier takes ~1hr to clear the whole first arena page @ hell.

This post has been edited by malkatmp: Apr 7 2014, 09:59

You get weapon and armor proficiency when hit or get hit. The more it deal the faster it rate. Idk what affect it point per gain thought,
To add that, I come to a conclusion that on lower level or difficulty, Deprecating aren't needed. It most important skill is Silence and you need high proc for that.
You can grin proc really fast by spamming Weaken after unlock it 0cd at level 250. If you need it in hurry, 1cd faster weaken unlock at level 165.
Currently all my mana goes to Supportive and it proc rise naturally. That just me melee DW. I can't / don't play on PFUDOR yet. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

imo, it really depends on the Rapier/Axe.

the following stuff is Pure Speculation:

however, i'd rather have the extra Parries with a Rapier. An Axe might weight you down a bit & improve your block by a few%, but it also lowers your parry chance by ~10%(?!). though, an axe might be great on Hell/Nightmare stuff & it does ~500more base damage.

currently, i'm trying to Max out this Axe, so i can clear out the first page of arena @ hell faster & get some more tokens. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

my rapier takes ~1hr to clear the whole first arena page @ hell.

High level 1H users, high level 1H users everywhere. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Does having innate arcana perk gives you any advantage in battle..well now i have enough hath to buy the Ist one thanks to FlameRyu..I was thinking of buying it??

High level 1H users, high level 1H users everywhere. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

where? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

there's plenty of lv 350+ 1H guys. i'm just a noob spewing out my 2cents.

Does having innate arcana perk gives you any advantage in battle..well now i have enough hath to buy the Ist one thanks to FlameRyu..I was thinking of buying it??

yes, you can put Haste/Shadow Veil on it. it saves mana & it's nice to have a slotted spell always On.

though, imo, 50haths (~450k credits) is still a lot. if you're still rocking some Superior stuff, i'd rather upgrade them first. a few weeks ago, my whole equipment set cost ~1/2 of that. also, training Pack Rat from 0 to Max only cost 540k credits.

where? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

there's plenty of lv 350+ 1H guys. i'm just a noob spewing out my 2cents.

It's hard to see 2H / DW guys around, and Niten one almost never exists.
I supposed these styles are too squishy on high level?

yes, you can put Haste/Shadow Veil on it. it saves mana & it's nice to have a slotted spell always On.

though, imo, 50haths (~450k credits) is still a lot. if you're still rocking some Superior stuff, i'd rather upgrade them first. a few weeks ago, my whole equipment set cost ~1/2 of that. also, training Pack Rat from 0 to Max only cost 540k credits.

Well..I also recently blew out all my credits almost 400k on training/crystals/equips ...and was thinking should i convert them in credits or buy some perk....Well I guess hath perks can wait for some time more..Thanks...and do you use any hath perk??

It's hard to see 2H / DW guys around, and Niten one almost never exists.
I supposed these styles are too squishy on high level?

rather than that, it's only that 1H is on a whole other league, especially at high profs.
anyway if that's your concern, i can assure you that almost every high-level 1H player once was 2H or DW, so they still have a certain experience on those styles. and many of them also tried/use niten, yeh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Well..I also recently blew out all my credits almost 400k on training/crystals/equips ...and was thinking should i convert them in credits or buy some perk....Well I guess hath perks can wait for some time more..Thanks...and do you use any hath perk??

if you *really* want to use IA1, it can't be helped; but i still agree with malk, if you have some credits you should first start migrate from superior to at least exquisite gear, i bought my first IA at about lv250 iirc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Apr 7 2014, 11:19

It's hard to see 2H / DW guys around, and Niten one almost never exists.
I supposed these styles are too squishy on high level?

i used to be 2H/DW + shade, but 1H is just so much better. or 2H/DW really need a buff. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Well..I also recently blew out all my credits almost 400k on training/crystals/equips ...and was thinking should i convert them in credits or buy some perk....Well I guess hath perks can wait for some time more..Thanks...and do you use any hath perk??

i'm probably the worst guy to ask. though, i do hv IA1 & 2 for a long while (Haste/Shadow Veil). now it's Haste/Spirit Shield, since i don't need that much evade. IA3 is too expensive & i can't think of a spell to put on it. it might matter, if i want to do Hellfest.

if you've spend it on everything else & you're satisfied with your current equipment (ie you're not going to switch stuff in a couple weeks.), then go ahead with IA1 & put haste on it. though, imo, i'll try to max out Pack Rat first.

it's an upgrade that stays with you forever. equipment & other stuff are "generally", buy it for 10k & sell it for 5k kinda deal. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by malkatmp: Apr 7 2014, 11:34

It's hard to see 2H / DW guys around, and Niten one almost never exists.
I supposed these styles are too squishy on high level?

1h goes extremely well with OFC. And it has no problem with parry or evade, which are a headache for DW/2H. However, fyi most 400+ players are mages.

It's hard to see 2H / DW guys around, and Niten one almost never exists.
I supposed these styles are too squishy on high level?

there are some with fully forged estocs around, andi've been DW since day 1.
i just happened to catch the 1H fever like everyone else (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

1h goes extremely well with OFC. And it has no problem with parry or evade, which are a headache for DW/2H. However, fyi most 400+ players are mages.

Are parry and evade really that OP on high levels?
Here I thought equipping Shade can drastically increase def and parry/evade is sh!t.

there are some with fully forged estocs around, andi've been DW since day 1.
i just happened to catch the 1H fever like everyone else (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Estocs are quite dangerous (no stun) for lowbie, so I guess I'll skip that till I gain some more levels...
And apparently all the high level DWs can't afford to use Power/Plate is that true? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
It seems like it goes like this:
[Mage] > [1H + Power/Plate] > [DW + Leather / Shade] > [2H + Shade] > [2H + Leather] > [Niten noobfags]


Damn... Right when both my 2H and Heavy prof. are so high and I read these...

This post has been edited by kos9494: Apr 7 2014, 12:14

i have some question to ask

1. if i play pfudor at this level which stats should i decrease or increase more?

2. which one is better 1h+shield or DW?
both are using shade

3. when using shade which stats that's important to use?

here's my equipment
feel free to comment which one should be changed

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ab67573f22
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6a6e09165b
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c6fa146b5d
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2c8578e070
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=514807301a
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d58f9d1801
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=35bc73c1c7

Are parry and evade really that OP on high levels?
Here I thought equipping Shade can drastically increase def and parry/evade is sh!t.

It is OP on monster, though you won't be affected much by it until you do PFUDOR

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Apr 7 2014, 12:20

Hi all
i only played this game to gain credits and download doujin but i dont really know how it actually works and how to skill right to make more damage.

I would like to change massively with all my stats and abilitys to Staff, to make damage on all mobs at the same time. I Heard from a holy and dark magican how is better for this goal?

It would be great when anyone can say me how i must skill the stats, abilitys right and which equipment i can use as a wizard. Staff in combination with light armor should be the best choice.

I found helpful informationen for wizards
Stat Equal to Priority
STR Level * ~0.8 Lowest
DEX Level * ~0.9 Low
AGI Level * ~0.9 Low-Mid
END Level + a bit Mid
INT Level + a bit High
WIS Level + a bit High

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This post has been edited by Animas: Apr 7 2014, 12:19

Well..I also recently blew out all my credits almost 400k on training/crystals/equips ...and was thinking should i convert them in credits or buy some perk....Well I guess hath perks can wait for some time more..Thanks...and do you use any hath perk??

IA becomes more useful at higher levels where mana consumption of buffs really shy-rockets (especially in 1h in heavy >_<). At your level and with recently opened FreeShop, you might equip yourself quite nicely and devote funds on some trainings like Pack Rat (maxing it out is a must!), Adept Learner (if you want to level up fast), drop trainings (to get more of everything to sell). I think the most beneficial perk at early stage is +25 % HP, cuz you became more tanky. Anyway, it's up to you how you want to play it out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

I would like to change massively with all my stats and abilitys to Staff, to make damage on all mobs at the same time. I Heard from a holy and dark magican how is better for this goal?

It would be great when anyone can say me how i must skill the stats, abilitys right and which equipment i can use as a wizard. Staff in combination with light armor (leather ?) should be the best choice.

Maging at 74 lvl is generally, a bad idea. Besides with staff the only possible set of armour is cloth as it boosts both of prime maging attributes : int + wis. If you really want to mage check out FreeShop and as for stats it goes in order of importance : 1) wis, int 2) agi, end 3) str, dex (not relevant for mage). Try to get phase clothes instead of cotton.

This post has been edited by HNTI: Apr 7 2014, 12:34

Staff in combination with light armor should be the best choice.

I found helpful informationen for wizards
Stat Equal to Priority
STR Level * ~0.8 Lowest
DEX Level * ~0.9 Low
AGI Level * ~0.9 Low-Mid
END Level + a bit Mid
INT Level + a bit High
WIS Level + a bit High

If you plan on going pure mage, you can run strength at 0 now. For mage the best gear is picking one element, getting a decent staff that has decent magic damage and appropriate elemental damage, and getting phase gear all with the same respective element.

Holy and dark are popular with high level players, other elements are generally cheaper.

You can use the wiki to find answers on your own, so you don't have to read back through this thread: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse

Anyway, if the game is too easy, then it might be time to increase the difficulty.

You shouldn't need to grind most proficiencies; the only ones you might want to consider grinding are Supportive and Deprecating. Proficiency gain rate slows down the closer the base proficiency you're raising gets to your character level. The rate can be increased with the Assimilation training, but it's not worth it.

I don't trust wiki that much now since there's quite a difference between things told here and in wiki.
Wiki says Heavy armor should up less AGI but here in forum many people say Heavy should up even MUCH more AGI.
Perhaps things change as we go higher level?

Now, I was only looking for a non-Mage gear-up set which provides balanced survivability and damage.
I don't see anyone going 2H+Power style which I'm worrying about now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)